Yeah, Why can't they do this?
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GSC is closed, STALKER 2 cancelled [Up5: GSC: Wait for Up6 in mid-January]
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Yeah, Why can't they do this?
ok, so some unofficial details which will be unconfirmed until Grigorovich confirms it but it's likely true because the man is close to the studio, knows Grigorovich and is quite well known in the industry:
1)The game was going to be a PC exclusive. GSC didn't have resources for console development and publishers didn't want to pick it up for consoles because of two possible reasons: 1)it's a single-player post-apocalypse title from Eastern Europe won't likely to sell well in Europe and US 2)GSC's terms of deal were too crazy for them.
2)Grigorovich didn't like the direction of the game, but some people say that the game was turning out great.
3)Grigorovich has been thinking about closing the studio for almost a year. Possible reason - he just got bored with this.
4)Law enforcement version isn't likely to be true because STALKER IP isn't registered in Ukraine and they would get nothing
5)The guy on twitter is just a PR from South Africa, he didn't know and is looking for work now
6)Grigorovich still owns IP. He can give it to somebody but there are no suitable studios except 4A which have tense relationship with Grigorovich.
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here it is for your google translators
http://galyonkin.com/2011/12/09/pro-zakryitie-gsc/
1)The game was going to be a PC exclusive. GSC didn't have resources for console development and publishers didn't want to pick it up for consoles because of two possible reasons: 1)it's a single-player post-apocalypse title from Eastern Europe won't likely to sell well in Europe and US 2)GSC's terms of deal were too crazy for them.
2)Grigorovich didn't like the direction of the game, but some people say that the game was turning out great.
3)Grigorovich has been thinking about closing the studio for almost a year. Possible reason - he just got bored with this.
4)Law enforcement version isn't likely to be true because STALKER IP isn't registered in Ukraine and they would get nothing
5)The guy on twitter is just a PR from South Africa, he didn't know and is looking for work now
6)Grigorovich still owns IP. He can give it to somebody but there are no suitable studios except 4A which have tense relationship with Grigorovich.
edit: beaten
here it is for your google translators
http://galyonkin.com/2011/12/09/pro-zakryitie-gsc/
This hurt so much...why I even asked for this list.
Angry Fork
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Assholes.
First Name
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Makes me angry and sad. STALKER was one of the best gaming experiences I've had in the last decade largely because of its setting.
If STALKER2 was going to be PC-exclusive after all, then GSC's closure is sad news indeed. No surprise that Western publishers were hesitant; they just don't understand these types of games.
It does sound a bit like GSC overreached and Grigorovich's apparent mood about the studio and game can't have helped. Still, I have the feeling this is far from the end for STALKER. Let's see in a few years time.
It does sound a bit like GSC overreached and Grigorovich's apparent mood about the studio and game can't have helped. Still, I have the feeling this is far from the end for STALKER. Let's see in a few years time.
AngelSoldier
Banned
NOOOOOoooooOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooOOOOOOO !
They said console ports were a possibility and now there is none .... ~(T_T)~
They said console ports were a possibility and now there is none .... ~(T_T)~
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Lame.. they made some horribly janky but still fantastically awesome games.
jim-jam bongs
Member
I didn't enjoy the subsequent games as much but Shadow of Chernobyl is a masterpiece.
The console port is what killed this game. They didn't have the resources for a multiplatform title and as a result no one wanted to publish their game.
Fuck Western Publishers. Worthless shits would rather rehash Michael Bay simulators a hundred times because God forbid a game that doesn't have fucking regen health and QTE actually be allowed to exist.
Pretty much this.
PaleFolklore
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Wow I definitely did not see that coming. What a shame, they were a truly great developer.
I wouldn't blame western publishers. They are not charity, they are public-traded companies and their CEOs are obliged to greenlight games for the largest market possible and the most broad audience. They are not a private joint where some dudes make stuff they and their friends like. STALKER would sell ok on PC in the long run. But it would be a slow burner which you couldn't present to investors as a quarter winner. Have you noticed that Tripwire were self-publishing their games from the beginning? That Team Ace (Zeno Clash) didn't have a publisher as well?
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
cooltobeyou
Banned
Why did I click this link? I'm a glutton for punishment
RIP GSC, Shadow of Chernobyl is the only game in recent memory where I died on the very first quest... "Oh god what is that red symbol, WHY IS MY HEALTH STILL GOING DOWN? WHY DOES THIS PISTOL SUCK SO MUCH!? OH S*** HE HAS A SHOTGUN!"
You will be missed
Wordsgohere
Neo Member
Well... This is pretty fucking depressing.
Just read this.
Fuck. I was late to the STALKER series, but they are some great fucking games. As far as I'm concerned, no other single player FPS in the past several years even comes close, and these days we need games like STALKER more than ever. What a goddamn shame.
Fuck. I was late to the STALKER series, but they are some great fucking games. As far as I'm concerned, no other single player FPS in the past several years even comes close, and these days we need games like STALKER more than ever. What a goddamn shame.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
So good.
If only someone nicked whatever sort of build they had to leak it
it's not only build, it's the whole engine too.
angular graphics
Banned
Well, for one, THQ was very satisfied with Metro 2033's sales, and a lot of them were on the PC. http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/05/metro-2033-has-been-very-profitable-for-thq-ceo-says/
"It's a very profitable title for us," "A lot of the sales were done on PC," he added, "and a lot of the sales were also done through digital mechanisms that don't get captured by any service."
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Let me dream!
Neuromancer
Member
Why couldn't they have gotten a publisher and used that money to staff up in order to make the game multiplatform?
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
What episode is this from?
THQ is likely to be bankrupt soon.
Also I think GSC were bargaining for some ridiculous terms and nobody wanted this. 4A games work for cheap, it seems, but they pay them enough money to feel comfortable in Ukraine. A russian studio located in Moscow would be much more expensive for comparison. And it still would be cheaper than some western studio (not much cheaper though methinks).
the founder and owner of the studio.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Vanilla?
Which one? I'm ashamed I've never played a game in the series, lost track of it when they kept delaying the first one
Night_Trekker
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Indeed
Oh well... I still have to finish the original game, and I have Call of Pripyat and Clear Sky to play
AngelSoldier
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Lol. What a sad ignorant little man.
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Point is, plenty of western dev's/publishers that don't make COD or COD clones ...
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
I was talking about Metro 2033 in that post...
But regardless, play SoC with the Complete mod and then CoP, which is fine vanilla but there's lots of great mods for it too. Some people like Clear Sky, I found it to be pretty dull and it recycled a lot of content from SoC. You'd be fine skipping it.
CoP > SoC >>>>> CS for me.
Did you just call STALKER a COD clone?
Barkley's Justice
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That sucks. But I think developers need to stop being so naive and get their business straight. They sign their lives away to these publishers. Need to think bigger than that.
And stop making such big, blockbuster games. It's obviously not sustainable.
AngelSoldier
Banned
[Nintex];33320710 said:
No, No I did not.
I laughed but wanted to cry instead.
Night_Trekker
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What exactly does the Complete mod do? I'm many hours into SoC and don't want to start over unless it makes a huge difference.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
http://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-complete-2009
I've only ever played it with the Complete mod. I played CoP mostly vanilla, with the Atmosfear mod for some extra sexy visuals.
somebody from the team posted in comment section of the blog post. He said that Grigorovich assembled the team during the lunch and told the developers that the project and the company are closing. He gave them their salary, a STALKER calendar for 2012 and some games magazine (with a preview most likely).
that is it.
that is it.
Neuromancer
Member
Dude yes.Time for 4A to make a true spiritual successor in Metro 3: Open World Stalker Clone.
Sucks man. Sucks hard. STALKER is my favorite IP.
What a gut-wrenching reunion that must have been... A fucking calendar.