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Media Create Sales: Week 6, 2012 (Feb 06 - Feb 12)
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lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Level-5 banked so much on DS, I doubt they mind. PSP, PS3 and Wii were afterthoughts, but they really didn't miss much.
It could be Capcom, Ono's teased SFXT 3DS before.
test_account
XP-39C²
Ah ok, i see. Although, Capcom did release a video a few weeks back where it says that the exclusive characters (Mega Man 1 and Pacman) are both coming to PS3 and Vita. The Nikkei article talks like the cancelation has already happened.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
I asked some fluent mods to take a look and they'll decide what to do with the article, but really if you weren't sure about your translation you shouldn't have posted with such certainty.
What if anything does Namco have planned for Vita? Lukewarm reception to Innocence may have been a catalyst.
I really don't think it's Level-5. There's no reason for them to cancel Time Travelers for example since it's a port of a game that could use the help of every platform available. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if LBX (which IIRC you thought would continue on Vita) wound up on 3DS.
They have a Gundam game that would be stupid to cancel given it was supposedly close to completion. They also announced token "Series blah blah blah" at TGS.
Come on, now.
ToI R was a remake of a not so big selling Tales of, so it's obvious it wouldn't ever done big numbers.
Which says it all, really.
PSP is outselling Vita not because the PSP is selling well; in fact it's selling pretty badly. Vita sales are just that bad at the moment.
Is this true? If it was written by the VP of IDGA Japan, this is kind of important.
Father_Brain
Banned
Wondered that myself, considering that - no offense intended - DCharlie isn't exactly the most objective commentator, but I didn't see any point in making an issue of it.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
DCharlie you dun goofed.
DCharlie
Banned
let me clarify this - i was and am confident in my translation, however - i'm not going to claim to be fluent/native because that's not the case.
lol, at this point "you guys" want it to be important - it isn't, but go ahead . I mean - if a VP at a company says something , then it has to be spot on 100% right !
lol what? Look - this is getting stupid now.
I'd say more Love Plus and Theatrhythm combined. And Love Plus bundles. Next week, 3DS will be over 5 millions in a good way, probably.
Love Plus bundles were sold through Konami Style, so wouldn't show up in Famitsu/Media Create tracking, I don't think.
test_account
XP-39C²
I dont think that the sales expectations for that game was very high.
Personally i dont think that is any of the big publishers that we think of (Bandai Namco, Sega, Konami etc. etc.). And afterall, there is no confirmation on it, so it is kinda just a rumor so far.
Yeah, I'd like to know it too.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Hi, I just wanted to briefly comment on why I locked that other thread. The first reason was because it was a non-English article posted with a machine translation and pretty inflammatory contents. We've always discouraged people from doing this. duckroll has been pretty active in the past in smacking people who post, for example, incorrect 2ch rumours that they've auto-translated. In the future I'd recommend definitely avoiding posting auto-translated stuff out of context. Instead, if you think it's a big deal, PM a GAF member who you expect is a) fluent in the language and b) culturally aware enough to pick up on any context clues about the source (for example last time around there was some debate about the relative importance or reputation of Nikkei vs Nikkei Trendy and Nirolak ended up changing the thread title like half a dozen times to strike the right balance).
The second reason was because it was brought to my attention by another regular GAF member who is fluent in Japanese and pointed out that it was an opinion piece, not a news story. DCharlie's post had nothing to do with it.
If someone provided an accurate translation and the thread was posted with the correct tone, noting that it's an opinion piece and noting who the opinion piece is by or what the source's credibility is, there's nothing theoretically wrong with a rumour thread and it would be okay to repost.
Personally it's not to my taste and I feel like GAF is in general quite a bit swamped with minor Vita news that largely devolves into a bunch of unproductive "Typical GAF Vita FUD Vita rules you can't Uncharted on your Apple Shit Fon!!!!" versus "Wow Vita really is doomed sell your Sony stock can't wait to buy one for $24 next week" level stuff. It's getting really shrill to hear a bunch of the same people flippantly dismiss one another and go aggro. That's not to suggest that that thread was that, simply that the risk of any Vita thread becoming that is so high right now that it's important to get it right from the OP.
Normally we leave notes when we lock threads unless the existing replies in the thread do a good job of representing the reason (for example if someone posts a dupe thread and the first replier replies with "dupe thread" and a link, we don't need to explain that it's locked because it's a dupe thread). I thought that the initial replies adequately contextualized the situation. Sorry if that was an incorrect assessment.
Meta-talk about another thread being locked doesn't really have anything to do with M-C so posts after this one on the subject will be deleted. If you have any feedback please PM a mod including me. Thanks.
The second reason was because it was brought to my attention by another regular GAF member who is fluent in Japanese and pointed out that it was an opinion piece, not a news story. DCharlie's post had nothing to do with it.
If someone provided an accurate translation and the thread was posted with the correct tone, noting that it's an opinion piece and noting who the opinion piece is by or what the source's credibility is, there's nothing theoretically wrong with a rumour thread and it would be okay to repost.
Personally it's not to my taste and I feel like GAF is in general quite a bit swamped with minor Vita news that largely devolves into a bunch of unproductive "Typical GAF Vita FUD Vita rules you can't Uncharted on your Apple Shit Fon!!!!" versus "Wow Vita really is doomed sell your Sony stock can't wait to buy one for $24 next week" level stuff. It's getting really shrill to hear a bunch of the same people flippantly dismiss one another and go aggro. That's not to suggest that that thread was that, simply that the risk of any Vita thread becoming that is so high right now that it's important to get it right from the OP.
Normally we leave notes when we lock threads unless the existing replies in the thread do a good job of representing the reason (for example if someone posts a dupe thread and the first replier replies with "dupe thread" and a link, we don't need to explain that it's locked because it's a dupe thread). I thought that the initial replies adequately contextualized the situation. Sorry if that was an incorrect assessment.
Meta-talk about another thread being locked doesn't really have anything to do with M-C so posts after this one on the subject will be deleted. If you have any feedback please PM a mod including me. Thanks.
Plus it's hard to cancel and move a game when you don't have much of note announced to begin with.
test_account
XP-39C²
What makes you say that? And on what subject(s) do you mean that he isnt objective?
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Future lineups for the big Japanese publishers:
Capcom
-Street Fighter X Tekken
Konami
-Kojima Productions title
-Metal Gear Solid HD Edition
-New Little King's Story
-Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2012
-Silent Hill: Book of Memories
-Zone of the Enders HD Edition
Level 5
-RPG
-Time Travelers
Namco Bandai
-Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny
-Super Robot Taisen
Sega
-Samurai & Dragons
-Super Monkey Ball: Banana Splitz
Square Enix
-Final Fantasy X HD
Tecmo Koei
-Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus
RyougaSaotome
Member
Solid opening numbers for Gravity Daze. Like Toyama said on twitter, he wants this to be a long selling kind of game.
In my 20 hours with it, I'd say this is the type of quality that people would buy long past the launch window because it's just a damn great game, regardless of when it was released.
Hopefully the DLC gives it some legs as well.
In my 20 hours with it, I'd say this is the type of quality that people would buy long past the launch window because it's just a damn great game, regardless of when it was released.
Hopefully the DLC gives it some legs as well.
Not on a regular basis.
We only get them when a publisher breaks Sony or Nintendo's hidden sales clause.
Father_Brain
Banned
@Stumpokapow - Fair enough, thanks for the explanation.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Someone suggested the canceled game could be SFvT for Vita? That would be pretty shady after the footage and features they've been showing.
test_account
XP-39C²
Isnt it easier to cancel a game if it isnt annouced? Or how do you mean?
iirc, Ono teased the possibility of SFvT for 3DS but I seriously doubt they would cancel the Vita version.
DCharlie
Banned
assuming that the game is built on MT-f, surely it would just make more sense to announce a 3DS version -as well- ?
Or for any of the games? it's one of the big differences this time around - DS v PSP was difficult because the DS wasn't really up to doing 3D gaming to the same level and whilst the Vita is a more powerful machine, capcom have shown that you can get perfectly gorgeous 3D games running on the 3DS. So Vita->3DS games could certainly happen.
Anyways, glad the thread lock was clarified as well. Thanks
Grampa Simpson
Banned
I'm so happy that there is a some sort of balance between Nintendo and Sony again. These threads are so much more fun when there's a rivalry.
Pretty sure the 3DS would cope fine with Morrowind.
Hmmm. On which note, this needs to happen.
Please do! It'll also be interesting to see how well Tekken 3D Prime does...
Super Smash Bro
Banned
It's as if open world games didn't exist until this generation or something.
Speaking of which, a 3DS Assassin's Creed needs to happen. The Animus loading area would be nutty in 3D.
Easy answer is that everyone who was interested in the game already owned a Vita in anticipation, but who knows if that's accurate or not?
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
I think that's referring to his notorious predictions about MH3G being a huge flop on a Nintendo handheld, but it's a moot issue anyway since apparently that was not the impetus for the lock.
Based on this I'd guess it's Sega, Level 5, or possibly Namco. I don't see Tecmo pulling that lonely port of a port, ditto for Square. Konami has no reason to pull the HD remakes and they seem pretty invested in the platform already.
well who wouldn't be excited to see two high-priced, ill-prepared handhelds launching against each other?
Is Vita losing developer support already? Sony responds
EDIT: There's more in the full article by the way
EDIT: There's more in the full article by the way
frankie_baby
Member
Not exactly what I'd call a flat out denial
bigtroyjon
Member
Sony isn't Nintendo's biggest competition in the handheld gaming arena(at least on a worldwide basis) so I don't think you have to worry about them getting complacent.
I'll say this: If it was just an opinion piece, or a mistranslation, Sony wouldn't have a reason to comment. At all. They did, though. And in a way that doesn't even really refute the original article. That's kinda worrisome.
It's not really that weird. It only sold 40k (plus PSN), not 150k or 200k. There are all kinds of games that sell 40k that don't push hardware. Especially a new IP with unusual mechanics and low brand awareness.
Wouldn't Gust's game be technically Tecmo Koei now?
Cosmonaut X
Member
While responding to the piece like that does raise an eyebrow, there are a couple of things worth considering:
-- This isn't Sony coming out independently with a release refuting the article. They are - I assume - being pressed by Gamasutra on this and are responding.
-- We're on the eve of the Western launch and the last thing Sony will want is any hint - even if this story is absolute bunk - that there is any hesitation or reversal from third parties.
That said, I don't think that this story is quite as straightforward as "extremist quotes" would suggest. Iwata was very clear about a similar issue when it came to the crunch point for the 3DS last year - developers were wavering on 3DS development and they had to do something to reassure them, and to make the system more appealing. If that was happening with the 3DS, with all of Nintendo's big guns unreleased and coming off the back of the DS, then I would not be at all surprised if there was something similar brewing for the Vita.
The question is: if Sony are being faced with nervous publishers - as Nintendo were - what can they do to keep them on board?
BishopLamont
Banned
Handhelds are basically irrelevant and the Vita isn't even launched yet (again, worldwide here). Sure the Wii might not receive every third party multiplatform title, but are you really doubting that it won't get the majority? Add to the fact that Nintendo is aggressively courting third parties, they need it for the Wii-U, while Sony seems fine to let their new consoles dangle in the wind.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Gust's still selfpublishing as far as I'm aware, like Namco Bandai and D3.
Well, the Nikkei article seems to be an opinion piece or column or analysis. But it was written by the head of Japan's IGDA branch. Soooo, yeah.