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We're talking about the US here.
jim-jam bongs
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1. Depending on which field of engineering you are qualified in, you might be underpaid
2. The waitress in this story would be earning a lot less than that before tips
I love how everyone assumes that the waitress deserved more than a dollar. What if she was a total bitch?
Tipping is not mandatory. I admit to tipping less than a dollar on many $75+ bills because the service was beyond awful (mixed up my order 3 times in a row and accused me of changing it, made $30+ mistakes on my bill and refused to acknowledge them, forgot about my order twice, etc.).
When you eat out a lot, you see stuff like this a lot.
Tipping is not mandatory. I admit to tipping less than a dollar on many $75+ bills because the service was beyond awful (mixed up my order 3 times in a row and accused me of changing it, made $30+ mistakes on my bill and refused to acknowledge them, forgot about my order twice, etc.).
When you eat out a lot, you see stuff like this a lot.
Sho_Nuff82
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This is juvenile and insulting. I'd feel like an idiot walking out of a restaurant giving a 1% tip on a bill greater than $100. Unless the service was absolutely terrible (messed up orders, long waits, cold food, no refills, etc).
jim-jam bongs
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dave is ok
aztek is ok
Next time you give me such a terrible service, just let me know you're a GAFer and I'll give you an extra $5.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
The Albatross
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This thread brings together everything we love.
TIP THREAD and the 1%
As a former waiter, every bad tip I ever got was from people who would have more likely been made up of the Occupy-type people, not wealthy bankers. BUt just gonna throw it out there, I'm one of the pro-tip nazis that vehemently criticizes anybody that gives shitty cheap tips, and I think you're a neanderthal asshole if you don't tip well.
TIP THREAD and the 1%
As a former waiter, every bad tip I ever got was from people who would have more likely been made up of the Occupy-type people, not wealthy bankers. BUt just gonna throw it out there, I'm one of the pro-tip nazis that vehemently criticizes anybody that gives shitty cheap tips, and I think you're a neanderthal asshole if you don't tip well.
jim-jam bongs
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FrontalMonk
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anyone who thinks this is somehow the server's fault should actually read the OP, specifically the part where it mentions the customer in question. "So proudly does he wear his 1% badge of honor that he tips exactly 1% every time he feels the server doesn't sufficiently bow down to his holiness."
...yep. Definitely sounds like the server's fault. Didn't scrape or beg enough for that tip, I'd wager.
Also, for EuroGAF that missed it, typical salary for a server is around $2/hr. The minimum wage law specifically calls out people who work for tips as being exempt.
...yep. Definitely sounds like the server's fault. Didn't scrape or beg enough for that tip, I'd wager.
Also, for EuroGAF that missed it, typical salary for a server is around $2/hr. The minimum wage law specifically calls out people who work for tips as being exempt.
LyleLanley
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I once gave someone less than a 1 dollar tip, I only did it because the person was a tremendous asshole on top of giving horrible service. I gave the $1 so that he would know that I didn't just forget to tip him.
The eternal debate.
I almost always tip (like +99%) and am lucky enough to have loads of great restaurants nearby. But my world was thrown into turmoil when I was out with a visiting military friend of mine and he said "no one tips me". It was a tongue in cheek comment but left me conflicted.
I almost always tip (like +99%) and am lucky enough to have loads of great restaurants nearby. But my world was thrown into turmoil when I was out with a visiting military friend of mine and he said "no one tips me". It was a tongue in cheek comment but left me conflicted.
vicissitudes
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That's just you though. A lot of people do not think horrible service somehow deserves 10%.
I've done that too. If I don't tip I just look cheap; I give a low tip on purpose to let them know their service sucked.
MatthewB92
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Most waiters in America get payed like $4.50 an hour. Well atlease my sister did when she worked as one.
bengraven
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I was being sarcastic.
Maleficence
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If you're giving anything but the tiniest tip for crappy service you're doing it wrong.
I'm not a huge fan of tipping anyway, working rights should cover wages, customers should not have to.
I'm not a huge fan of tipping anyway, working rights should cover wages, customers should not have to.
WanderingWind
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jim-jam bongs
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You guys should really just grow a pair and tell someone when you think the service sucked.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
It all depends on how many nights and weekends you work. I'd imagine people working primarily day shifts are taking home not much more than minimum wage
FrontalMonk
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I"m a non-confrontational pussy, so the last time this happened, I emailed them. Got an apology letter from the general manager with a $50 gift card asking me to give them another chance.
cevansdust
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jim-jam bongs
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That works too. At least you have the wantons to actually be heard instead of sending passive-aggressive messages with currency.
vicissitudes
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That's not true. You get paid at least $7+ in pretty much every state. Tips make up part of that, but if you don't get enough tips the restaurant will cover the rest.
In California (where I live), waiters get $8 minimum not including tip, so I don't feel like they "deserve" a certain percentage no matter what. It depends on the service I get.
http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm
I did tell him his service sucked. I also gave him a lousy tip. What, do you expect me to give him a verbal beating then tip him 20%?
Mammoth Jones
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I believe it's for two people. So we're talking about 67 bucks a person. I've done that for a long ass lunch on a Payday. Feels good to treat yourself every now and then.
Mammoth Jones
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But isn't that the entire point of a tip? A little something extra for exceptional service? Not saying this dude was right in what he did. But legally that's what a tip is.
MatthewB92
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She always bitch about making 4.50 though not shocked she lied about that.
cevansdust
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No, I think that it is true. I had a waiting job just a couple of months ago and it was 4.65 an hour. Stick around 3 months and they bump you to 4.95 an hour. Either way your wage is based on tips. It's a service guys. If you don't want to tip then don't eat where someone waits on you. Seriously I understand not tipping on poor service, but not tipping because you don't view it as a service. Thats laughable to me. Of course I was taught to respect waiters as I grew up. Its not easy work.
LyleLanley
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I told the waiter his service sucked, I also gave him the dollar tip.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
What state do you live in? Look at the chart he linked. She probably wasn't lying
jim-jam bongs
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Say "I thought the service I received was subpar so I'll only be tipping 10%". You're paying the person for their service, not their subservience.
Effective communication requires clarity, if you don't say something the assumption will be that you're just a cheap prick.
You work in finance? Sorry dude, not a real job.
Something Wicked
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If the waitress actually brought up the whole "1% vs 99%" deal while serving the guy, then she kind of deserved it.
If not, then the banker dude is just a pure asshole.
If not, then the banker dude is just a pure asshole.
that's the funniest part...should really be $1.34...
MatthewB92
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Massachusetts Yea she could have made $4.50.
vicissitudes
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It might have been 4.65 but you should have made up the rest in tips. If you didn't, the restaurant should have covered it. So you never made only 4.65 an hour with wage+tips combined. At least that's how I understand the laws.
That's how it's suppose to work, but that isn't really how it actually works. My wife worked at a place for a little while when she couldn't find anything else. She made $2.33 an hour, but her tips never really got her up to minimum wage, since she worked the cruddy shifts there. She could have brought it up, and they would have probably made up the difference, but she'd be fired. All of the waitresses told her that's how it works. You ask for the difference and you're out.
cevansdust
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You are correct. You have to claim your tips at the end of every shift. Based on the hours you work that week and the amount of tips you claim, the company will make up for your wage with the weekly check if your tips plus the check didn't amount to minimum wage.
But I will say from my experience, waiting is not worth minimum wage.
timetokill
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I'll tip poorly/not at all if the service is really bad, but otherwise I'm pretty generous. (15%-20%)
For example, I recently went to a place where the following happened:
- I asked for a water when they came to ask us what drinks we wanted. She brought the drinks for the other guys, and she said she'd "be right back" with my water.
- I notice our food sitting on the counter (We were one of two groups in the entire restaurant, pretty easy to notice). It sat there for several minutes, waitress nowhere to be found.
- Waitress finally notices the food, brings it by. Still no water. I ask about it again.
- Water never arrives, instead the check is brought.
You better believe I didn't tip for that shit.
For example, I recently went to a place where the following happened:
- I asked for a water when they came to ask us what drinks we wanted. She brought the drinks for the other guys, and she said she'd "be right back" with my water.
- I notice our food sitting on the counter (We were one of two groups in the entire restaurant, pretty easy to notice). It sat there for several minutes, waitress nowhere to be found.
- Waitress finally notices the food, brings it by. Still no water. I ask about it again.
- Water never arrives, instead the check is brought.
You better believe I didn't tip for that shit.
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