Ugh, no thanks. And no offense to PC gamers, but I really dont want to play it on my PC. Nevermind the fact I dont even have Steam.
But, a discussion for another thread.
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XSEED announces Unchained Blades for 3DS/PSP (eShop/PSN only)
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Ugh, no thanks. And no offense to PC gamers, but I really dont want to play it on my PC. Nevermind the fact I dont even have Steam.
But, a discussion for another thread.
No it wasn't. Not even close. Good lord.
ThatObviousUser
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The trailer has lots of FMV and voice acting, pretty cool that it can still be on the eShop.
I assume the game isn't any good though from as little as I've heard about its Japanese release.
I assume the game isn't any good though from as little as I've heard about its Japanese release.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Everyone buy their Steam releases!
Obviously Ragnarok, they localized the DS game.
New Little King's Story. Especially since it's announced for EU already.
It can't be anything else from that hint, the platform gives it away. Ys and the Zero port aren't out yet, and it's unlikely that they would localize Zero before the other Trails in the Sky games. Only Ragnarok fits right now.
Edit:
Oh right. I forgot about that. It's not out yet though, is it? It could be that though.
I'd still bet on Ragnarok since they've never worked with Konami but I really forgot about the LKS reimagining and Marvelous is still handling the development side of things.
Oh, of course. It was more just ... saying TitS (and forgetting that it specified Vita, ctually). Ragnarok would be nice though and I really do hope that is the case.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
That voice acting...
kunonabi
Member
question: is any kind of voice localization, no matter how crappy, better than none? i'd say no. & i'd say the voice work in the trailer for this game proves that...
I would much rather have no voice acting than shitty voice acting any day of the week.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
I might try this, depending on the price. I had an extra 8GB SD card for my 3DS so some bigger games wouldn't hurt.
I agree with this. Heck, I even prefer silence over average voice acting.
I agree with this. Heck, I even prefer silence over average voice acting.
Haha, don't get me wrong I've got nothing against your opinion, but that part is a funny read
You make it sound as if Steam is an expensive console instead of free programm everyone can download.Someone here linked an Arc Rise Fantasia video -- and that one shows a game I actually stopped playing after about two hours, because the voice acting was so absolutely terrible.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
The blatant hyperbole over the quality of the voice acting is amusing though. The vocals are no where close to Arc Rise Fantasia. I'd go as far to say that anyone saying so is being intentionally disingenuous.
The vocals sound fine to me, also consider that they are out of context. It may work for Japanese trailers, but it seems like a foreign concept for English ones.
Not that big of a fan of dungeon crawlers like this but I'll wait for more information to see if it'll pique my interest.
The vocals sound fine to me, also consider that they are out of context. It may work for Japanese trailers, but it seems like a foreign concept for English ones.
Not that big of a fan of dungeon crawlers like this but I'll wait for more information to see if it'll pique my interest.
Viola of the Abyss
Member
I guess there are only two of us who care.
Make it four.. Add to it the fact that I'm european and I'm not very interested in the game and it's a no buy for me.
Also I will never again buy anything from PSN until they clear up the mess they made by removing legally purchased games from people's download lists.
Regarding a digital release of Trails 2 for PC onwards I think I'd get them, and then buy the retail Japanese editions! Everybody wins!
The Grim Heaper
Member
People think these voices are bad? Get real. Of course clips that are completely out of place will sound weird.
Plus Troy Baker can't be "bad".
Usually not a fan of Wizardry and whatnot, but I like some of the characters and whatnot in this, so I'll see what happens.
Plus Troy Baker can't be "bad".
Usually not a fan of Wizardry and whatnot, but I like some of the characters and whatnot in this, so I'll see what happens.
SpaceDrake
Member
For those of you who're a bit sour on the digital-only nature of this, let me just say as an Industry Dude unrelated to this project: increasingly, it's coming down to a question of "either it's sold digitally or we literally can't reach consumers". You want to complain about lack of retail? Complain to Gamestop and Walmart and their ilk for increasingly refusing to carry anything that isn't a Call of Duty or Blizzard title.
Also, been interested in seeing more of this for a while. (Damn my weakness for redheaded heroines.) Will there be a demo of some sort, XSEED folks?
Also, been interested in seeing more of this for a while. (Damn my weakness for redheaded heroines.) Will there be a demo of some sort, XSEED folks?
Which is especially frustrating for GameStop because they're a dedicated fucking game store. Walmart isn't as big a deal JUST based on selection, though the way they pressure publishers to cheapen packaging in increasingly ridiculous ways is no good, but GameStop ideally would be more about serving gaming on a whole, or at least figuring out how to make a lot of money off popular stuff to help sustain smaller.
It IS a situation where I'm more frustrated with the game market on a whole than Xseed, half of it CAN be a lack of consumers buying some of this stuff.
It IS a situation where I'm more frustrated with the game market on a whole than Xseed, half of it CAN be a lack of consumers buying some of this stuff.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Not the biggest fan of dungeon crawlers, but the involvement of Grandia/Lunar people will at least warrant a look.
I prefer to stay away from comparisons like "Well X company is doing this, why isn't Y company doing it too?" Because they are meaningless due to many factors (like the comparison Durante refers to with dual audio).
And NISA has all but stopped localizing PSP games, the only one in limbo that remains is Black Rock Shooter.
I'm frankly amazed NISA hasn't gone heavier on the digital. It's probably in their best interest.
One nice thing about having a super niche audience of nerds is that they have an extremely high internet adoption rate so you can basically 1:1 sell them the digital version.
XSEED moving this way has been their best business decision in...well, forever.
One nice thing about having a super niche audience of nerds is that they have an extremely high internet adoption rate so you can basically 1:1 sell them the digital version.
XSEED moving this way has been their best business decision in...well, forever.
It's possible something broke in Xseed's distributor relations that makes it harder for them, or they actually COULD do it on 3DS but want to (have to?) keep it equal on both platforms.
Viola of the Abyss
Member
Of course I'm not complainig about this to Xseed, I'm complaining about the situation in general... I know that there is no choice, but still it's sad... and the competition is fierce. I have as much time to buy and play only a certain amount of games, it being digital or retail is a huge differentiation point for me, given the situation of current digital distribution systems, especially in the case of SEN store and Nintendo eShop.
This doesn't mean that I never buy digital, I just bought 2 weeks ago Corpse Party for the PSP because the interest I have in the game is very high! Also I can still buy the retail Japanese copy to satisfy my "need" of wanting a box to display on my shelf.
ActStriker
Member
There wasn't a Japanese demo so I don't think there will be.
I would say NISA is a bit more 'conservative' than the others (as conservative as niche gets, anyway)
I mean, their main series seem to be Disgaea-like titles (and the first Disgaea seemed pretty popular) and Atelier games (which I guess are safe-ish since they keep doing them.)
It seems like XSeed has less luck, with TiTs seemingly flopping (which seems like an expensive localization.)
I mean, their main series seem to be Disgaea-like titles (and the first Disgaea seemed pretty popular) and Atelier games (which I guess are safe-ish since they keep doing them.)
It seems like XSeed has less luck, with TiTs seemingly flopping (which seems like an expensive localization.)
Could you list just a few of those many factors? When companies are in such a highly similar market position (localizing JRPGs) it doesn't seem straightforward to me why a comparison is meaningless. We compare RPGs made by Bethesda and Bioware, we compare shooters made by Id and Epic
and Bioware
(By the way, I love XSEED, I bought 3 titles from them this month, two of them for the second time. This is not meant to disparage them -- I'm just really curious what makes the situations so incomparable)
If Trails DOES head to PC primarily (though I imagine they'd jump back to Vita for Zero onwards, assuming those keep getting Vita ports) I wonder if they'd seriously consider a physical release just on their store. Maybe that's too much to hope for, but without going through retailers it seems like they could do a limited LE there for 2 and 3, and just supply Steam keys whether or not it's a DRM free disc.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
Seriously, the voice acting is terrible. Just save the money and add text. Its so bad it detracts from the game instead of helping it.
Need to see more than 2 seconds of gameplay to judge the rest of the game. Looks like it has QTE though.
Need to see more than 2 seconds of gameplay to judge the rest of the game. Looks like it has QTE though.
Time of contracts, negotiation terms, financials, planned budget, unexpected costs coming into play, etc.
I'm not sure of what you do for a living, but I'm not involved in the industry at all. But those are just a handful of things that I would assume come into play when making deals and such for localizing titles.
Sure, but those seem like per-project issues, not per-company issues. So it's still surprising that e.g. pretty much every single NISA release has dual audio, while others seem to struggle (huge shoutout to Aksys for VLR by the way, much appreciated!). It seems like they just place a higher value on it than other localization companies. (Which in turn makes me value them more)
I'm also not in the industry. Actually, one could argue I'm not in any industry, I do research. So clearly I have no idea of business realities
Sure, but those seem like per-project issues, not per-company issues. So it's still surprising that e.g. pretty much every single NISA release has dual audio. It seems like they just place a higher value on it than other localization companies. (Which in turn makes me value them more)
I'm also not in the industry. Actually, one could argue I'm not in any industry, I do research. So clearly I have no idea of business realities
Well I know NISA pretty much has almost all Gust titles as a lock so that's probably included in the localization from the start.
Though I do wonder what in the world happened to Black Rock Shooter, they haven't updated anyone after the poll for who would buy that super special edition release.
I'd imagine NISA can do more dual audio releases because their parent company owns those rights as is so it's not necessarily an extra expense for them to localize an NIS title (or NIS published title) with dual audio vs, say, XSEED localizing random_title_01.
I understand a PSP game is a hard sell now. But the 3DS too?
Both Aksys and NISA are releasing games physically on the Vita - which is an even smaller market than the 3DS.
I don't know. I don't care about the back end. All I know is that there were three major players in the space, and one of them decided they don't want me as a customer anymore. I just lost 1/3 of the few remaining companies that catered to my interests.
It hurts because Atlus is kind of out of it now too. So that leaves me with two.
I'm unhappy and posting out of emotion. I'm sure it doesn't make sense to a clear mind but whatever. I'm really sad right now. And I don't mean "internet sad". I really mean I am very very mournful and scared of the future.
Both Aksys and NISA are releasing games physically on the Vita - which is an even smaller market than the 3DS.
I don't know. I don't care about the back end. All I know is that there were three major players in the space, and one of them decided they don't want me as a customer anymore. I just lost 1/3 of the few remaining companies that catered to my interests.
It hurts because Atlus is kind of out of it now too. So that leaves me with two.
I'm unhappy and posting out of emotion. I'm sure it doesn't make sense to a clear mind but whatever. I'm really sad right now. And I don't mean "internet sad". I really mean I am very very mournful and scared of the future.
SpaceDrake
Member
You might want to hold on to your butt, 'cause the ride is gonna get increasingly crazy.
scy said:
Also very much a factor!
But NISA also has dual audio on everything else they localize, not just N1 stuff (eg. Gust, IF, etc.). Anyway, I don't want to derail this thread further, so I'll drop it.SpaceDrake said:
I'm ready for it. Everything except Gust games on Steam. That would probably kill me.
And all those games that have already proven they can sell; I wouldn't really compare the situation directly like that. Disgaea 3 Vita getting a physical release isn't even the same level as ReXX here not.
I mean, I enjoy physical stuff too but I'm more towards "able to play the games I want to play" than "having them physically in my hands."
I would, but that would require me to actually enter a Gamestop or Walmart.
I think you are confused about something here. It's not that they are saying that digital is the only way to sell all of their games. It's that they've understood that digital is going to be the only way to sell some of their games.
They are still going to do retail releases for some games, but what this means is that they are going to go to digital only for the stuff that their investors don't have as much confidence in. This is actually a *good* thing, even if you don't like digital downloads, because it means that more games have a better chance at getting released over here.
And let's be honest, it's better for Xseed in the long run, because this is going to cost them a hell of a lot less. You should fully expect the others to start following this soon enough.
This is what I believe as well.
Ragingnight
Member
Looks promising.
I hope TiTS sequels will come to the PSP/Vita though...
I hope TiTS sequels will come to the PSP/Vita though...
Considering the relations on the JP side, I think some of it still applies; remember, they do have to license the JP audio for dual language tracks and if the companies involved don't want to play ball, it can get pretty pricey.
I'd also imagine that it's come to be an expected thing with NISA releases in general so perhaps it's just part of a trend now. Or voodoo.
Probably voodoo.
Then I'm angry at this generation. I'm angry at the internet. I'm angry at everything. Someone build me a time machine and get me out of this stupid time.
I know I'm being irrational. I know I'm being silly. I know I'm being stupid. But my heart won't let me feel otherwise. The utter defeat and helplessness I feel at this situation is infuriating and completely destroys me. I can't remember feeling this much negativity towards anything ever. I can't handle it. I can't accept it. I just... I need a break.
I know I'm being irrational. I know I'm being silly. I know I'm being stupid. But my heart won't let me feel otherwise. The utter defeat and helplessness I feel at this situation is infuriating and completely destroys me. I can't remember feeling this much negativity towards anything ever. I can't handle it. I can't accept it. I just... I need a break.
And I'm ok with seeing more digital games if that's what it takes. I am also someone who prefers to see actual physical copies, but if having it digital is the only way it comes out, then I can deal with that.
But if it came out only on Steam, it would really bug me. Because I want to play these games on my handheld. Using a d-pad/analog stick, using buttons and being capable to take the game with me. Not use my keyboard and mouse and being stationed in front of my computer monitor.
If XSeed does start releasing the upcoming LoH games on Steam, please still release them (at least) for download on a handheld, also.
HamPster PamPster
Member
Let me chime in with a generic response: I don't mind download releases but the prices really need to come down
Sumioni for $20? Come on! I still bought it though, got to show my Vita ENTHUSIASM
Sumioni for $20? Come on! I still bought it though, got to show my Vita ENTHUSIASM