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[cw_sasuke]

KH 3D and Love + are games that really need a re-release on 3DS in + 6-12 months.

 

[Truth101]

Reminds me of Itadaki Street Wii. I figured that game was good for an easy 300k, but it struggled to even reach half that.

Actually, after Slime Morimiri 3 and now KH3D, I sort of wonder if DQM will do bit less than we're expecting? I was thinking around 1m, but now I'm sort of reconsidering...

DQM:J-633,084 (Opening week) DS LTD-??? (December Release)
DQM:J2-623,643 (Opening week) DS LTD- 30,109,544 (April Release)

Hmm I don't think expecting a million for DQM remake was reasonable in the first place. I mean, the DQ remakes are in the 1m range along with new brand new DQM games.

DQM games sell 1.5m+

Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 -1,283,423
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 -532,656

Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker -1,458,149
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker (Ultimate Hits) -84,323

Kingdom Hearts isn't in the same league.

 

[liger05]

For those calling doom and gloom on the PSVita, Let's put this in perspective guys. 3DS also had a week where it dipped below 10,000 and look how it's doing now

If people @ Sony HQ think the same thing then there really is no way back.

 

[pramath]

I swear that post was sarcasm. Did I miss something?

Ah well, in that case...
I'm operating on no sleep, sarcasm isn't my strong suit right now

 

[Darksheik]

Wait, did Sony announce a Vita price drop?

This.
The two situations are not comparable at all, nor is the software announced/already published which obviously makes a huge difference.

 

[GaimeGuy]

How has KH3D marketing been? I'll be honest: Before that 3D hologram presentation they did for it about a month back, it was not on my radar: I was under the impression it was going to be another really half-assed effort like the DS games.

Now, I don't live in Japan, but if the perception there was anything remotely similar to mine, it would more than explain the sales.

 

[perfectchaos007]

I swear that post was sarcasm. Did I miss something?

Nah, that's what I thought too.

Always trust your intuitions

 

[BurntPork]

For those calling doom and gloom on the PSVita, Let's put this in perspective guys. 3DS also had a week where it dipped below 10,000 and look how it's doing now

This is a joke post, right?

EDIT: Oh good. I thought so, but wasn't sure.

 

[ShironRedshift]

How has KH3D marketing been? I'll be honest: Before that 3D hologram presentation they did for it about a month back, it was not on my radar: I was under the impression it was going to be another really half-assed effort like the DS games.

Now, I don't live in Japan, but if the perception there was anything remotely similar to mine, it would more than explain the sales.

Yeah, I'm pretty much guessing this is a large part of it. People felt burned by 358/2 Days and Re:Coded, and since KH3D is on the 3DS, the successor to the DS, people simply felt 3D would be another game in the same vein as those two and didn't want to take a chance on it. Them creating that one stupid anniversary bundle that lumps KH3D, 358/2 Days and Re:Coded together probably didn't help this perception much either, so it's understandable that people would be skittish about it, especially since your post isn't the first I've read about people feeling that way.

 

[massoluk]

This is a joke post, right?

I swear to God, GAF's sarcasms meters are broken beyond repair.

 

[Anth0ny]

For those calling doom and gloom on the PSVita, Let's put this in perspective guys. 3DS also had a week where it dipped below 10,000 and look how it's doing now

They way it's worded screams sarcasm, but there are a ton of Sony fanboys who actually believe this.

I'm pulling for Sony to have a big E3 for Vita.

 

[tmarques]

I swear to God, GAF's sarcasms meters are broken beyond repair.

Sometimes it's hard to tell with all of the stupidity ("I hope Vita crashes and burns because I want a one-portable future") that we have to endure.

 

[Parl]

It seems we've already talked so much in previous weeks about Vita going sub-10k, that there isn't anything more to say now that it's actually happened.

How about, when will be the last week PSP outsells Vita?

 

[GCX]

Kingdom Hearts is such a mismanaged franchise. It's been 6 years since KH2 and after that pretty much all the spin-offs have been released on different platforms. Seems like an effective way to kill the series.

 

[Alrus]

How about, when will be the last week PSP outsells Vita?

When there's no more significant releases for it... So probably during summer.

 

[boingball]

wow, below 10k finally. Guess Sony ran out of money propping up the sales?

Next milestone: Falling below PS2/360.

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

KH 3D and Love + are games that really need a re-release on 3DS in + 6-12 months.

At least they already have precedent for re-releases.

Final Mix and Plus editions incoming for sure.

I hadn't heard about crippling bugs in KH3D though, what's up with that?

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

Seems like the PSP is getting more releases than the Vita in Japan and they are cutting into their own product lines....that should change soon right? Right.............right?

 

[kassatsu]

Japanese PSN Weekly Rankings (Apr 02nd – Apr 08th 2012)

PS3 Games

01/01 Journey [2012.03.15]
02/02 Castlevania: Harmony of Despair [2012.03.29]
03/04 Resident Evil 5 Alternative Edition [2012.03.29]
04/03 MotorStorm RC [2012.03.29]
05/10 Resident Evil 4 [2012.03.13]
06/14 Bomberman Ultra [2009.06.18]
07/13 Flower [2009.02.12]
08/18 Elemental Monster Online Card Game [2010.12.22]
09/16 Spelunker HD [2011.12.21]
10/12 Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 1 [2010.10.12]

Vita Games

01/02 The King, the Demon King and the 7 Princesses: New King Story [2012.03.29]
02/03 @field [2012.03.29]
03/01 Pro Baseball Spirits 2012 [2012.03.29]
04/08 Escape Plan [2012.03.01]
05/04 Let’s Try Bass Fishing: Fish On Next [2012.03.29]
06/06 Gravity Daze [2012.02.09]
07/05 Little Busters! Converted Edition [2011.03.22]
08/07 Ragnarok Odyssey [2012.02.02]
09/09 Unit 13 [2012.03.08]
10/— Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational [2011.12.17]

PSP Games

01/— 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Saisei-hen [2012.04.05]
02/01 Monster Hunter Portable 3rd [2011.07.28]
03/03 Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker PSP the Best [2011.02.24]
04/10 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Hakai-hen [2012.03.08]
05/05 Persona 3 Portable PSP the Best [2011.08.25]
06/06 Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G [2010.03.18]
07/02 Black Panther 2: Yakuza Ashura Chapter [2012.03.22]
08/— L@ve once Mahjong [2012.04.03]
09/09 Final Fantasy Type-0 [2011.10.27]
10/11 God Eater Burst PSP the Best [2011.09.15]

PS1 Games

01/04 Final Fantasy VII International [2009.04.10]
02/06 Final Fantasy VI [2011.04.20]
03/05 Final Fantasy IX [2010.05.20]
04/01 Tokyo Majin Gakuen: Kenpuchou [2012.03.28]
05/07 Rival Schools [2012.02.22]
06/09 Final Fantasy VIII [2009.09.24]
07/10 Final Fantasy V [2011.04.06]
08/08 Resident Evil 3: Nemesis [2008.12.24]
09/15 Chrono Cross [2011.07.06]
10/13 Xenogears [2008.06.25]


I am willing to bet that those Vita numbers would be in the double digits for some of the games.

 

[sphinx]

Kingdom Hearts is such a mismanaged franchise. It's been 6 years since KH2 and after that pretty much all the spin-offs have been released on different platforms. Seems like an effective way to kill the series.

I guess SE thought they could get away with releasing only spin-offs with no main entries and make everyone believe those were the real deal, when they really are subpar, specially (or mainly) in nintendo handhelds.

Sad, I liked days on DS.

 

[frankie_baby]

How about, when will be the last week PSP outsells Vita?

Outside if occassional blip weeks i'm not convinced the vita will ever outsell the psp

 

[boingball]

And wow Kinect Star Wars sold 2k x360 consoles

Frightening if that is a global trend...


other musings:
Kingdom Hearts seems to sell better on the Playstation then on Nintendo.

Vita is now really doomed. Not because of the bad sales but because Sony is now in survival mode and management will not spent much time on their game division as long as their are other departments burning more money. And they will not invest additional money on top of already approved fundings there (in fact they even might reduce funding to get cash flow under control). If they get desperate enough they might actually sell the Playstation brand as long as it is still worth something to extend the survival of the Sony company.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

other musings:
Kingdom Hearts seems to sell better on the Playstation then on Nintendo.

Oh boy, now u done it! :3

 

[jimmypython]

There may be a new NINTENDO DIRECT soon, like, 8pm April 14th (this Saturday), Korean time of course~!

leaking from NINTENDO KOREA.

edit: Time zone fixed..

 

[mugurumakensei]

other musings:
Kingdom Hearts seems to sell better on the Playstation then on Nintendo.
.

I don't think there's an enough evidence to come to this consensus. It's more like it sells better when there hasn't been 5 spinoffs (KH:BBS, KH: Coded, KH: RE:Coded, KH 352/2 days, and KH: DDD) since the last numbered title. I also think the Dream Eaters may have hurt the title a lot along with no FF cameos.

 

[Mpl90]

There may be a new NINTENDO DIRECT soon, like, 8pm April 14th (this Saturday), Japan time of course~!

leaking from NINTENDO KOREA.

Or maybe it's just the Korean one.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

http://www.nintendo.co.kr/nintendo_direct/index.html

14/04: Nintendo Direct Korea

EDIT: Oh.

 

[cw_sasuke]

There probably wont be a nre Nintendo direct before e3...

 

[jimmypython]

Or maybe it's just the Korean one.

It is totally possible. But last time three conferences were on the same day.

 

[JakkuFurosu]

Heres to hoping Sony has a massive E3 showing with the goods ready for holiday.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

It is totally possible. But last time three conferences were on the same day.

Nintendo 3DS launches on 28th April in South Korea, so it's probably a local edition.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

But Nintendo was the first to use rechargable batteries and backlit (well, frontlit at first) screens for their handeld game systems. Ahead of Sega, SNK, Bandai, Nokia, Atari and whoever else.

Others (like Game Gear) had lit screens first, but they came with crippling battery dependencies.

 

[BengaBenga]

Why won't Sony do something? Anything?

Sony has forecasted an annual loss of $6.4bn, double its previous estimate and a record loss for the firm.

The grim forecast comes as Sony's new chief executive, Kazuo Hirai, prepares a turnaround plan, which he is expected to outline on Thursday.

Reports say the company is planning 10,000 job cuts as Sony exits businesses that are not profitable or central to the firm's strategy.

The company blamed the record loss on tax charges related to its US business.

It will be the company's fourth year of losses.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=469706

 

[Cygnus X-1]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=469706

So the keynote is tomorrow. I'm really curious to see which business will be shut down.

 

[Castor Krieg]

I'm pulling for Sony to have a big E3 for Vita.

Ofc they will have a big E3 for Vita. With Western-developed games nobody in Japan gives a fuck about. Japan is also the region who is the most invested in handheld gaming. Do you see where I'm going with this?

 

[frankie_baby]

Japanese PSN Weekly Rankings (Apr 02nd – Apr 08th 2012)

PS3 Games

01/01 Journey [2012.03.15]
02/02 Castlevania: Harmony of Despair [2012.03.29]
03/04 Resident Evil 5 Alternative Edition [2012.03.29]
04/03 MotorStorm RC [2012.03.29]
05/10 Resident Evil 4 [2012.03.13]
06/14 Bomberman Ultra [2009.06.18]
07/13 Flower [2009.02.12]
08/18 Elemental Monster Online Card Game [2010.12.22]
09/16 Spelunker HD [2011.12.21]
10/12 Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 1 [2010.10.12]

Vita Games

01/02 The King, the Demon King and the 7 Princesses: New King Story [2012.03.29]
02/03 @field [2012.03.29]
03/01 Pro Baseball Spirits 2012 [2012.03.29]
04/08 Escape Plan [2012.03.01]
05/04 Let’s Try Bass Fishing: Fish On Next [2012.03.29]
06/06 Gravity Daze [2012.02.09]
07/05 Little Busters! Converted Edition [2011.03.22]
08/07 Ragnarok Odyssey [2012.02.02]
09/09 Unit 13 [2012.03.08]
10/— Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational [2011.12.17]

PSP Games

01/— 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Saisei-hen [2012.04.05]
02/01 Monster Hunter Portable 3rd [2011.07.28]
03/03 Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker PSP the Best [2011.02.24]
04/10 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Hakai-hen [2012.03.08]
05/05 Persona 3 Portable PSP the Best [2011.08.25]
06/06 Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G [2010.03.18]
07/02 Black Panther 2: Yakuza Ashura Chapter [2012.03.22]
08/— L@ve once Mahjong [2012.04.03]
09/09 Final Fantasy Type-0 [2011.10.27]
10/11 God Eater Burst PSP the Best [2011.09.15]

PS1 Games

01/04 Final Fantasy VII International [2009.04.10]
02/06 Final Fantasy VI [2011.04.20]
03/05 Final Fantasy IX [2010.05.20]
04/01 Tokyo Majin Gakuen: Kenpuchou [2012.03.28]
05/07 Rival Schools [2012.02.22]
06/09 Final Fantasy VIII [2009.09.24]
07/10 Final Fantasy V [2011.04.06]
08/08 Resident Evil 3: Nemesis [2008.12.24]
09/15 Chrono Cross [2011.07.06]
10/13 Xenogears [2008.06.25]



I am willing to bet that those Vita numbers would be in the double digits for some of the games.

Judging by whats number 1 i wouldnt be surprised if they're all under 1k

 

[Eric C]

But Nintendo was the first to use rechargable batteries and backlit (well, frontlit at first) screens for their handeld game systems. Ahead of Sega, SNK, Bandai, Nokia, Atari and whoever else.

No

Atari Lynx
TurboExpress
Sega Game Gear

all had back lit screens 10+ years before the GBA, even many years before the GB Light.

Game Gear also had an official rechargeable battery pack

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Outside of like the original Xbox, has there been a major game system released in Japan that was out for 5 months and didn't have a single major game for the Japanese market released or announced? Vita's support has been worse than I would have ever expected.

 

[Chris1964]

New releases {2012.04.19}

[3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening # <RPG> (Nintendo) (¥4.800)
[3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening [Special Pack] <RPG> (Nintendo) (¥19.800)
[3DS] Code of Princess <RPG> (Agatsuma Entertainment) (¥6.090)
[3DS] Nano Assault <STG> (CyberFront) (¥5.040)
[3DS] Cho-ricchi! Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥5.040)
[3DS] Earthpedia <EDU> (Gakken Educational Publishers) (¥4.980)
[3DS] Imagine Fashion Designer 3D <SLG> (Ubisoft) (¥3.990)

[PSV] Lumines: Electronic Symphony <PZL> (Ubisoft) (¥3.990)

[NDS] Detective Conan: Kakokara no Zensou Kyoku <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥5.040)

[PSP] Detective Conan: Kakokara no Zensou Kyoku <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥5.040)
[PSP] Seinaru Kana: Orichalcum no Na no Motoni # <SLG> (CyberFront) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Seinaru Kana: Orichalcum no Na no Motoni [Limited Edition] <SLG> (CyberFront) (¥8.190)
[PSP] Miyako: Awayuki no Utage # <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Miyako: Awayuki no Utage [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥8.190)
[PSP] Miyako: Awayuki no Utage - Twin Pack <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥9.240)
[PSP] Hiiro no Kakera Portable (Otomate Collection) <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥2.940)
[PSP] Sokukoku no Kusabi: Hiiro no Kakera 3 Portable (Otomate Collection) <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥2.940)
[PSP] Saikyo Toudai Shogi Deluxe (Mynavi Best) <TBL> (Mynavi) (¥2.940)
[PSP] Mahjong Haoh Portable: Dankyuu Battle Special (Mynavi Best) <TBL> (Mynavi) (¥1.995)

[PS3] The The Lord of the Rings: War in the North <RPG> (Warner Entertainment Japan) (¥7.980)
[PS3] Crysis 2 (EA Best Hits) <ACT> (Electronic Arts) (¥3.654)
[PS3] Mamoru-kun wa Norowarete Shimatta! Meikai Katsugeki Wide-Han (Best Hit Selection) <ACT> (CyberFront) (¥3.990)

[360] The The Lord of the Rings: War in the North <RPG> (Warner Entertainment Japan) (¥7.980)
[360] Sesame Street: Once Upon a Monster <ADV> (Warner Entertainment Japan) (¥5.980)

 

[Truth101]

New releases {2012.04.19}

[3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening # <RPG> (Nintendo) (¥4.800)
[3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening [Special Pack] <RPG> (Nintendo) (¥19.800)
[3DS] Code of Princess <RPG> (Agatsuma Entertainment) (¥6.090)
[3DS] Nano Assault <STG> (CyberFront) (¥5.040)
[3DS] Cho-ricchi! Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥5.040)
[3DS] Earthpedia <EDU> (Gakken Educational Publishers) (¥4.980)
[3DS] Imagine Fashion Designer 3D <SLG> (Ubisoft) (¥3.990)

[PSV] Lumines: Electronic Symphony <PZL> (Ubisoft) (¥3.990)

[NDS] Detective Conan: Kakokara no Zensou Kyoku <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥5.040)

[PSP] Detective Conan: Kakokara no Zensou Kyoku <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥5.040)
[PSP] Seinaru Kana: Orichalcum no Na no Motoni # <SLG> (CyberFront) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Seinaru Kana: Orichalcum no Na no Motoni [Limited Edition] <SLG> (CyberFront) (¥8.190)
[PSP] Miyako: Awayuki no Utage # <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Miyako: Awayuki no Utage [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥8.190)
[PSP] Miyako: Awayuki no Utage - Twin Pack <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥9.240)
[PSP] Hiiro no Kakera Portable (Otomate Collection) <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥2.940)
[PSP] Sokukoku no Kusabi: Hiiro no Kakera 3 Portable (Otomate Collection) <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥2.940)
[PSP] Saikyo Toudai Shogi Deluxe (Mynavi Best) <TBL> (Mynavi) (¥2.940)
[PSP] Mahjong Haoh Portable: Dankyuu Battle Special (Mynavi Best) <TBL> (Mynavi) (¥1.995)

[PS3] The The Lord of the Rings: War in the North <RPG> (Warner Entertainment Japan) (¥7.980)
[PS3] Crysis 2 (EA Best Hits) <ACT> (Electronic Arts) (¥3.654)
[PS3] Mamoru-kun wa Norowarete Shimatta! Meikai Katsugeki Wide-Han (Best Hit Selection) <ACT> (CyberFront) (¥3.990)

[360] The The Lord of the Rings: War in the North <RPG> (Warner Entertainment Japan) (¥7.980)
[360] Sesame Street: Once Upon a Monster <ADV> (Warner Entertainment Japan) (¥5.980)

That Wii

Spoiler

3DS

software.

other musings:
Kingdom Hearts seems to sell better on the Playstation then on Nintendo.

KH3D would probably sell better on the PSP in Japan. But worldwide, no.

 

[GameplayWhore]

So the keynote is tomorrow. I'm really curious to see which business will be shut down.

There's still potential for profitability in their Consumer Products & Services division, but it truly would be an amazing megaton if Sony announced a sell off of their gaming lines. Kaz certainly won't let that happen, but in the alternate universe where the (currently the case) $1.6 billion loss in CP&S for calendar year 2011 forced them to sell to Nintendo/Microsoft/Apple/Gabe, GAF would have to seriously retool how it works to keep running. :O

 

[dacuk]

If this means a Vita price drop, I applaud it.

 

[pramath]

Ofc they will have a big E3 for Vita. With Western-developed games nobody in Japan gives a fuck about. Japan is also the region who is the most invested in handheld gaming. Do you see where I'm going with this?

Gonna quote myself again for this:

I seriously hope Sony's Vita strategy isn't what I think it is: sustaining a handheld on western support and sales only.
I mean, not even Sony can be that thick, right?

 

[Infinite Justice]

Vita...

*pours 40*

 

[dacuk]

Kaz new strategy I think.

Selling SCE to Nintendo?

 

[Souldriver]

Nintendo 3DS launches on 28th April in South Korea, so it's probably a local edition.

Wait wut?

The 3DS hasn't been launched in South Korea yet?!?

 

[pramath]

Wait wut?

The 3DS hasn't been launched in South Korea yet?!?

Remember Super Smash Bros. Brawl?

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

No

Atari Lynx
TurboExpress
Sega Game Gear

all had back lit screens 10+ years before the GBA, even many years before the GB Light.

Game Gear also had an official rechargeable battery pack

Yea, I mixed up earlier, I was thinking GBAs peers (WSC, NGPC), but overlooked the overengineered handhelds of the early 90s. Doesn't really change my point though, Nintendo has more technology handheld firsts than basically all their competitors combined.

If we're counting add-ons you can add dual analog to the list too.

 

[Anth0ny]

Ofc they will have a big E3 for Vita. With Western-developed games nobody in Japan gives a fuck about. Japan is also the region who is the most invested in handheld gaming. Do you see where I'm going with this?

VITA DEAD

in Japan?

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

I really don't think big western games being announced at e3 for Vita is really that super likely thought that's a bit off-topic.