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Spring Anime 2012 | Welcome Home, Space Cowboy

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Westlo

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Out of curiosity, I looked up Medaka first week sales starting from volume 10 through the current (vol 15, which was last week), and it's interesting: they go 104k - 92k - 105k - 71k - 69k - 103k. I wonder what caused the drop for vols. 13-14?

Anyway, more relevant to anime discussion (since I doubt volume 15 was affected by the anime at all), volume 16 probably won't be out for a bit, so we'll have to see what happens then.

Some times they get less days to sell... like from the list you posted.... (just guessing the amount of days...)

104k - 4 days
92k - 4 days
105k - 4 days
71k - 3 days
69k - 3 days
103k - 4 days

On another helpful forum... sometimes you see Naruto or Bleach sell really low and someone always comes in the sales thread and goes lol and than someone posts "was on-sale for 3 days only) etc. Seeing as how Medaka sold over 100k and AnE did 520k and HxH did 600k+... I'm guessing this was a normal week for releases. Medaka really does need a bump from the anime though.. sales have been pretty stagnant of late.
 

duckroll

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ugh... how many times does one got to do this? the word for animation in Japan is Doga. the anime moniker stuck because of the coproductions the french and japanese studios did in the mid 70's.

If you want to correct something you might want to actually know what you're talking about. Douga is a very general term for video in general. It literally means moving pictures, and pretty much no one uses the term to refer to animation as an art form. They do use the term to refer to in-between frames as opposed to genga (key frames) though, but that's about it. In general language use, if you say douga, you're probably talking about video files, or streaming video.
 

Articalys

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Some times they get less days to sell... like from the list you posted.... (just guessing the amount of days...)

104k - 4 days
92k - 4 days
105k - 4 days
71k - 3 days
69k - 3 days
103k - 4 days

On another helpful forum... sometimes you see Naruto or Bleach sell really low and someone always comes in the sales thread and goes lol and than someone posts "was on-sale for 3 days only) etc. Seeing as how Medaka sold over 100k and AnE did 520k and HxH did 600k+... I'm guessing this was a normal week for releases. Medaka really does need a bump from the anime though.. sales have been pretty stagnant of late.
Heh, I checked and you're right; vol. 10 was on a Monday, 11 on a Wednesday, 12 on a Tuesday, 13 and 14 released on Fridays, while vol. 15 released on Wednesday. Never realized that day of the week needs to be factored into sales like this. I wonder if the same principle applies to anime sales results?
 

neoanarch

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If you want to correct something you might want to actually know what you're talking about. Douga is a very general term for video in general. It literally means moving pictures, and pretty much no one uses the term to refer to animation as an art form. They do use the term to refer to in-between frames as opposed to genga (key frames) though, but that's about it. In general language use, if you say douga, you're probably talking about video files, or streaming video.

Dissen animé is a french term for cartoons. But I don't see what he's trying to refute in my post.
 

Envelope

sealed with a kiss
I'll marathon Yami to Boushi and Kannazuki no Miko (after i'm done with Kanon 2002) if Envelope agrees to watch all of Cowboy Bebop!

you know what needs to be done!

Since I just finished HeartCatch, a new timeslot is free for me. You have a deal.

Toradora 05

ahhhh shit. shit's gonna get real.

toradora0602ba7.gif


minori rocks.

I liked Minori at the start of the series, but by the end she was by far my least favorite character.

Ami > Taiga > Yasako > random pedestrians > Minorin~

It would be annoying if we kept getting 1 cour seasons, but it would be better than nothing. Ideally, we'd be at the flask arc by 2 and Kumagawa by 3.

Of course first the show has to prove profitable for Gainax before that can happen, something which might be tough with its timeslot.

I quite like all the split cour series, it helps keep them from feeling like their dragging on, and also increases the quality of the episodes.
 

DiGiKerot

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I'm sure they will contain a $400 price tag. That's why they are putting English subs on JP releases now, so they can release them with JP pricing in NA/EU.

Nah, it probably just means that it's being secretly translated for streaming somewhere.

I mean, it was revealed in a recent ANNCast that Bandai essentially funded the update of Aegissub to produce files that they can easily convert into BD subs, since that's what all the translators for the streaming sites use. This is why so many recent Sunrise releases have been subtitled in Japan even when they already have local licensors with streaming and DVD rights alreadly lined to do release not-crazy priced versions at some point.

Of course, this doesn't proclude an Asia-only English stream, as with Gundam Age.
 

Novid

Banned
If you want to correct something you might want to actually know what you're talking about. Douga is a very general term for video in general. It literally means moving pictures, and pretty much no one uses the term to refer to animation as an art form. They do use the term to refer to in-between frames as opposed to genga (key frames) though, but that's about it. In general language use, if you say douga, you're probably talking about video files, or streaming video.

Dissen animé is a french term for cartoons. But I don't see what he's trying to refute in my post.

your both correct - im talking about before the Japanese start using the loan word, everything was under the Doga moniker didnt matter if it was anime or not.
 

neoanarch

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your both correct - im talking about before the Japanese start using the loan word, everything was under the Doga moniker didnt matter if it was anime or not.

Are you sure? If what duckroll said is correct then douga would be any show including live action. Manga eiga seems to be a term used to describe early animation from a quick bit of internet research.
 

Westlo

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Heh, I checked and you're right; vol. 10 was on a Monday, 11 on a Wednesday, 12 on a Tuesday, 13 and 14 released on Fridays, while vol. 15 released on Wednesday. Never realized that day of the week needs to be factored into sales like this. I wonder if the same principle applies to anime sales results?

I guess.. but the only time sales seem to be affected anime wise is if it ships heavily understock.. like Bakemonogatari and Tiger & Bunny. Anyway looking @ a week with a lot of releases.

Inu x Boku SS [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
High School DxD [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
Ano Natsu de Matteru [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/23
Brave10 [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
Rinne no Lagrange [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/23
Tantei Opera Milky Holmes 2 [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21

Most released on the Wednesday with a few releasing on Friday, don't think the seconds weeks for Ano Natsu and Rinne were that much higher than you would expect... I guess anime is more frontloaded than manga, which makes sense.
 

Novid

Banned
aAre you sure? If what duckroll said is correct then douga would be any show including live action. Manga eiga seems to be a term used to describe early animation from a quick bit of internet research.

he was talking about the diffrence between douga and genga (key frame, inbetween frame)... Manga eiga (i never even heard it before) is the rarity. but yes Doga would mean everything including live action.
 

Westlo

Member
*reads OreNo Vol 10 spoilers*

Ohwow.jpg


Btw what volume did the anime cover upto? Since apparently Vol 10 is the start of a 3 volume arc or some shit.
 

duckroll

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Novid, please stop before you make a further fool of yourself. You're just talking yourself into a hole here by trying to sound more informed or smarter than other people when you're not.
 

/XX/

Member
I wouldn't call it a way to mask cutting corners -- it's more like he sort of started the whole movement of using limited animation in a stylized manner (rooting from a financial necessity, of course) that suited limited animation, eventually leading to entire animation styles being developed around it.
Yeah. I think the approach was considered as both cost effective and distinctive, but how some people embraced that method to develop it further was its definitive push forward; like Yasuo 'Mr. Jeep' Ōtsuka of Toei Animation (house of 'full animation' expertise at that time) deciding to spice things up alternating frame-rates of scenes to accentuate movements for different moments.

Toei hates the internet.
The funny thing is that it was the music added to the videos the reason they took them down, because Murad mentioned Sony Music Entertainment Japan Inc., as the culprit. Toei Animation doesn't seem to care much about that.

How did Corpse Princess do? If something as awful as that from Gainax got a second season Medaka is a lock.
Probably because it was previously planned as an split two-'cour' series, with feel. already working on the animation production for the second part as GAiNAX was handling the biggest share for the first.
 

frostbyte

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For personal preference, I would probably say the same, then again, if there's a quite good or "hilariously bad" dub. I'm usually more likely to take it over Japanese. Don't find it happening too often though.

Well yeah, me too. The simple fact is English is my first language, Japanese isn't. I can actually understand what they're saying completely and listen to the fine nuances in speech that I won't pick up in Japanese.

I don't really listen to dubs all that often though. Cowboy Bebop and Ghost Stories (for its hilarious dub) are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head.
 

Articalys

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Sket Dance 53

I don't even care about the episode, the new OP (which is awesome, btw) has a ton of references to the School Trip Rhapsody arc, along with a lot of other future stories. Getting excited!

Okay, the episode itself was pretty funny as well, even if they did reuse a couple gags a few times. Lots of slapstick humor.
 

RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
AnimeGAF.... has changed...

Sonic: Night of the Werehog

This was pretty good. Not only the animation was expressive and fluid, but the script isn't half bad. It's a silent short with no dialogue so you don't have to worry about the stupid Sonic voice acting, but even so the sound effects were supreme. It's short and inoffensive too: about ten minutes long and there's hardly anything to scoff at.

There's a myriad of complaints you can make about Sega's in-house departments, but their CGI studio is among the best. I would say they are even better than Squeenix's. 5/5 gotta go fasts

It also had a moé ghost. Moé. Ghost.

I saw this a year or so ago but never thought to post about it in here. But it is quite an enjoyable little short.

Mahou Tsukai Tai (Magic User's Club) OVA - 01

Wow. Seriously, wow.
This was great. The animation, the music, the tone, the atmosphere, everything was perfect, it clicked with me in a really good way. The feel of this show reminds me of why I started to watch anime in the first place, I love it.
Hopefully it remains as good for the rest of it's run, and the TV series' run. But so far, I'm really impressed.

One of my favorite anime. Such a great series! ^_^
 

NewFresh

Member
You are really wearing me down with those Kanon 2002 pictures wonzo. I can't keep looking at that face every day, I don't know how you do it.
 
Medaka Box 2

It's more of the same from episode 1, just with bouncing ahoge. The "mysteries" and characters are not remotely interesting, and all the soapbox stuff is obviously terribly boring. I could barely finish this episode, so I think I'm done with this show.
 

Envelope

sealed with a kiss
Bebop the Cowboy Episode the First
Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying And Love the Shitty CG Asteroids

EBUVC.jpg

And people claimed this show looked good


Meet Bebop the Cowboy, our hero of the day. He rips off classic western films and bruce lee and hunts bounties and stuff. And is a pretty boring protagonist, at least for the first episode.

The animation and direction of this episode is excellent, and I certainly appreciate it more now than I did 2+ years ago, but those were never the reasons I wasn't fond of this episode in the first place. I've determined that quite simply, I am not a fan of this newfangled western X scifi genre. I didn't particularly like it in Firefly, I don't really like it here. The story of this episode wasn't that great, unless the syndicate shows up in the future, and considering the episodic nature of this show, I doubt that will be the case. That being said, all the nods to old western films were a nice touch and very well done, like the gunfight at the bar. And superbly animated, as well.

As for Bebop himself, the most interesting part of the whole episode was in the 47 seconds before the OP started. As an aside, the OP is pretty good, but after having listened to the full version of Tank, I don't like the cut they used for the OP. Anyway, the opening scene is what excites me most about this series, hopefully there are at least a few episodes that take that tone.


I'm not sure if this is an actual flashback that will be fleshed out later, a flashforward on an eventual episode, or merely a scene to help give Bebop some more depth, but whichever it is, I simply want to see more like it.
 

frostbyte

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Bebop the Cowboy Episode the First
Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying And Love the Shitty CG Asteroids

http://i.imgur.com/EBUVC.jpg?1[IMG]
[I]And people claimed this show looked good[/I]

Meet Bebop the Cowboy, our hero of the day. He rips off classic western films and bruce lee and hunts bounties and stuff. And is a pretty boring protagonist, at least for the first episode.

The animation and direction of this episode is excellent, and I certainly appreciate it more now than I did 2+ years ago, but those were never the reasons I wasn't fond of this episode in the first place. I've determined that quite simply, I am not a fan of this newfangled western X scifi genre. I didn't particularly like it in Firefly, I don't really like it here. The story of this episode wasn't that great, unless the syndicate shows up in the future, and considering the episodic nature of this show, I doubt that will be the case. That being said, all the nods to old western films were a nice touch and very well done, like the gunfight at the bar. And superbly animated, as well.

As for Bebop himself, the most interesting part of the whole episode was in the 47 seconds before the OP started. As an aside, the OP is pretty good, but after having listened to the full version of Tank, I don't like the cut they used for the OP. Anyway, the opening scene is what excites me most about this series, hopefully there are at least a few episodes that take that tone.

I'm not sure if this is an actual flashback that will be fleshed out later, a flashforward on an eventual episode, or merely a scene to help give Bebop some more depth, but whichever it is, I simply want to see more like it.[/QUOTE]

You don't like Firefly and newfangled western x scifi genre shows? Come on, son.

...Well, I guess your opinion isn't as blasphemous as before, so that's an improvement!

and my favourite part was the opening scene too. It conveyed much depth and intrigue to the show. <3
 
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