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Halo |OT3| Remember Reach?

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Steelyuhas

Member
Rickenslacker said:
Nuke grenades are fine, they worked in CE. Only problem is that you don't give them the fuse of the grenades from 2/3 like Reach did if you want them to work.
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Nuke nades are fine when there is a longer fuse, movement options to get away including jump, weapons that kill faster, etc.

But when you have none of those things, and the nades are really strong, you get Reach. Also, the frag grenades stick to people in Reach, and I'm convinced they have magnetism.

indubitably said:
No I think they are just adding a zero to the end of everything, kind of like what COD did twice. (10 points/kill, slayer match to 500 points) This will sound kind of silly, but this was one of the changes I am dreading the most. Everything becomes about points, match points, spartan points, experience points.
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This is almost certainly what it is.

Of all the things to dread, your dreading 10 points for a kill in a slayer game?! It has no impact on the game.
 
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Redford

aka Cabbie
Rickenslacker said:
Nuke grenades are fine, they worked in CE. Only problem is that you don't give them the fuse of the grenades from 2/3 like Reach did if you want them to work.
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The cheesy bounces that land it right at your feet are also why I can't play Reach for more than a half hour anymore.
 
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GhaleonEB

Member
Podcast thoughts:

"the map formerly known as Warhouse" yay!

BR recoil leading to a bit of spread to limit the effective range sounds fantastic. Particularly how it balances against the DMR at different ranges.

The ordnance drop system sounds like what was used in Firefight in Reach. Orbital drop, can kill players, fixed timing and rotating locations. I like it.

Levels designed with sprint in mind + weapons slow sprinters = huge confidence boost

Using Halo 3 as a benchmark for base movement makes me tingle all over

The forerunner vision sounds well balanced on paper

I was hoping for more discussion of the philosophical difference between Reach and Halo 4 armor abilities.

The mention of Spartan Ops being "a little more objective based" was great news, and confirmed what I had hoped when I first heard of the mode. "solving problems together"

Using objectives to push players out into the battle field is exactly what Firefight needed.

Great podcast, I'm really liking most of what I'm hearing. Now to catch up on the thread....
 
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Rickenslacker

Banned
Cabbie said:
The cheesy bounces that land it right at your feet are also why I can't play Reach for more than a half hour anymore.
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I don't know what it is but I just couldn't get grenades to do anything when I actually played Reach. Even with the radius I was pretty pathetic at them, so much so that I took a clip of when one fluked and worked out.

I actually liked the prediction aspect of the ones in CE, I mostly used them to take out vehicles. Frag grenades to me were all about getting one under a Warthog and sending it flying. It never really worked out like that since CE.
 
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feel

Member
Tashi0106 said:
Did you see the voting thread in community. You're winning pretty convincingly. Although some have left suggestions. Take a look, do what you like, it's up to you. The only thing I think that needs to be changed is to make it more squared as an album art. Agree?

Love the font btw, looks like Metal Gear Solid font.
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Yep, MGS style was the inspiration, I don't really want to change anything about it (like colors and shape) because of it. But I won't really mind if you go ahead and make some changes and use a modified version.



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Can't this work just like this though?
 
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senador

Banned
GhaleonEB said:
....and I'm finally done with work and can dive into the podcast. Whew!

Rough day at work but today's delights are a nice dessert.


Fantastic news.

So much to catch up on it's not even funny. Figures the deluge starts when I'm in hell week.
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No kidding. I just started a new job and can't really follow the thread during the day really. I think I just won't get caught up.

Conan bit was hilarious. I laughed several times. :)

New podcast, is that what I hear?
 
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Im_So_Pringles

Member
Frankie, someone from 343 has yet to clarify if the Spartan Ops missions are only available for the week they were released in. The Game Informer article made it sound like Spartan Ops missions would only be available for one week, and then they would disappear. Is this the case?

If so, that sucks. If I liked a mission a lot, I would only get to play it for a week :(
 
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Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Im_So_Pringles said:
Frankie, someone from 343 has yet to clarify if the Spartan Ops missions are only available for the week they were released in. The Game Informer article made it sound like Spartan Ops missions would only be available for one week, and then they would disappear. Is this the case?

If so, that sucks. If I liked a mission a lot, I would only get to play it for a week :(
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No, you will be able to play them when you're ready. Like TiVo.
 
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daedalius

Member
Oh man, those games of Halo 3 were so fun.

Even Construct didn't seem as awful as I remember with a 50-49 game I just finished. 18-2 is fun.

Also, how the hell can I hit things in Halo 3 with the sniper rifle, and can't hit shit in Reach. Everyone says the sniper in Reachs is for derps and the H3 sniper is actually difficult.

Also, killing a scrub after a narrow miss with his rocket launcher, because he can't aim and the blast radius isn't nuclear sized, feels great.
 
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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Letters said:
Yep, MGS style was the inspiration, I don't really want to change anything about it (like colors and shape) because of it. But I won't really mind if you go ahead and make some changes and use a modified version.



dGhy38qNawTk3.jpg


Can't this work just like this though?
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Yup, looks good to me.

Also, Havok, I was talking to Ryaaan and he was telling me that he used to record his older podcast straight through skype. No local recording synching or anything. I actually listened to one of them today and it sounds pretty good. I think I'm going to go this route as it's definitely easier for everyone. Also, when there are guests, I can't really expect them to record their audio and send it over to me. That sounds a bit too much.
 
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senador

Banned
Im_So_Pringles said:
Frankie, someone from 343 has yet to clarify if the Spartan Ops missions are only available for the week they were released in. The Game Informer article made it sound like Spartan Ops missions would only be available for one week, and then they would disappear. Is this the case?

If so, that sucks. If I liked a mission a lot, I would only get to play it for a week :(
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Even though Frank just clarified... We did have info on this from one of the videos I believe. They said if you come in late to it, you can catch up on the all the missions and replay them as well.

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That gif looks pretty good. Zoomed in look will take some getting used to. I like the movement, but the jump seems absurdly high to me.
 
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Ramirez

Member
Well, that gameplay clip gives me some hope, much like the other gif that is posted all the time.

I'd be so grateful if we could just get a match of TS on one of the maps, showing all of the new stuff in action, would do so much more than any podcast or TV segment could ever do. :(
 
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Redford

aka Cabbie
Rickenslacker said:
I don't know what it is but I just couldn't get grenades to do anything when I actually played Reach. Even with the radius I was pretty pathetic at them, so much so that I took a clip of when one fluked and worked out.

I actually liked the prediction aspect of the ones in CE, I mostly used them to take out vehicles. Frag grenades to me were all about getting one under a Warthog and sending it flying. It never really worked out like that since CE.
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Ha, I know what you mean. I never really got used to the grenade arc in Reach, either. I noodle-arm nades all the time, but yeah, sometimes it works in your favour. :p
 
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NullPointer

Member
Rickenslacker said:
I like the sparks. There were a lot of sparks in CE, just unloading an AR on some enemies in campaign you'd have shots hitting the walls behind them as well sparking up the place. Loved that. They kind of neutered that in 2 onward.
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There's nothing else like wailing on enemies with the AR in Halo Anniversary. So many pretty lights and sparks and blood and awesome. Love it.

And I have to admit, the Kinect stuff while gimmicky is still a tiny bit neat. Was playing co-op with a buddy and he was wondering what the hell I was doing with all my "Analyze...", "Scan..." stuff. I just told him I was from ONI doing some recon and to mind his own business.

BUT, one thing to keep in mind: Its never a good idea to bind lethal actions to Kinect. I ended up killing my buddy because I just happened to utter the word "grenade" during our banter, sticking him perfectly on the back of the head.

Twice.

whoops ;P

GhaleonEB said:
The mention of Spartan Ops being "a little more objective based" was great news, and confirmed what I had hoped when I first heard of the mode. "solving problems together"
Using objectives to push players out into the battle field is exactly what Firefight needed.
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Yep. Spartan Ops sounds pretty damn promising, and ambitious. Makes me wonder why they didn't characterize it as a replacement for Firefight from the get-go.
 
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Krispy

Member
daedalius said:
Oh man, those games of Halo 3 were so fun.

Even Construct didn't seem as awful as I remember with a 50-49 game I just finished. 18-2 is fun.

Also, how the hell can I hit things in Halo 3 with the sniper rifle, and can't hit shit in Reach. Everyone says the sniper in Reachs is for derps and the H3 sniper is actually difficult.

Also, killing a scrub after a narrow miss with his rocket launcher, because he can't aim and the blast radius isn't nuclear sized, feels great.
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ARE YOU ME!?! I have the same damn problem. I can pull off amazing shots in 3 but can't do shit in Reach. :(
 
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GhaleonEB

Member
OP updated. Crashing hard now. Hopefully this helps other folks who are behind on the thread.

04/17 | Tonight's Conan show featured an extended segment on Halo 4, featuring Frankie and Kiki Wolfkill.

04/17 | New 343 Sparkcast! Direct download here. For a quick bullet point summary, head here.

04/17 | The Halo 4 release date has been announced - November 6th. Red vs Blue has a Halo 4 skit on the date announcement, here.

The Conan segment was pretty great.
 
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indubitably

Member
I actually feel good about the amount of halo 4 related stuff that has been revealed recently, I actually think its going to hold me off for what I would imagine to be a decent number of sleeps before the next influx of info. Probably E3
 
MrGreencastle

MrGreencastle

Member
Haha, stumbled across this picture of me in my pics folder.

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Sadly, I'm the least cool one in the middle.



indubitably said:
I actually feel good about the amount of halo 4 related stuff that has been revealed recently, I actually think its going to hold me off for what I would imagine to be a decent number of sleeps before the next influx of info. Probably E3
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I agree. I like to go in fresh with little knowledge, and experience everything for myself first-hand without pre-conceptions.
 
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NullPointer

Member
indubitably said:
I actually feel good about the amount of halo 4 related stuff that has been revealed recently, I actually think its going to hold me off for what I would imagine to be a decent number of sleeps before the next influx of info. Probably E3
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Halo Anniversary achievements and giving Halo Wars another solid go is pretty much my wait-for-Halo-4 plan.

Although I'm sure Max Payne 3 and Ghost Recon will help with that too. Thank the maker that we're actually getting some great games outside the holiday window.
 
MrGreencastle

MrGreencastle

Member
GhaleonEB said:
Frankie mentioned over on the Gaming side thread that the game audio was squashed to get the voice over work in, so it's not indicitive of the actual sound.
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Just release the actual sound, dammit!

Like... two or three clips of weapon sounds, like before Reach. I'll buy whoever does so an expensive canadian pint. No jokes.



mastrbiggy said:
I disagree. The guy behind is the least cool.
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Amazing. I didn't even notice that guy until now. Hilarious...

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He just wants to be part of the cool group.
 
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Ramirez

Member
I must have hit the bottom of trueskill in MLG, I rarely ever go negative now, and am usually one of the best in the lobby. A stark contrast to my multiple double negative games from a few weeks ago. :p

If nothing else with 4, I can hold out hope for a stripped down version of the game. Despite Reach's problems, MLG is a blast once you stop getting donged on constantly...

Is that pic from PAX Prime? There was a girl there with that same color armor and a Recon (I think) helmet. It was seriously impressive suit for home made stuff...I thought it was better than the guy who won the contest.
 
MrGreencastle

MrGreencastle

Member
NullPointer said:
Isn't most of this stuff still being created, tweaked, polished and tested? Or have they hit some solid development milestones already?

Not much use getting samples and assets if they're all subject to change.
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Your logic and sound reason is not welcome here.


Ramirez said:
I must have hit the bottom of trueskill in MLG, I rarely ever go negative now, and am usually one of the best in the lobby. A stark contrast to my multiple double negative games from a few weeks ago. :p

If nothing else with 4, I can hold out hope for a stripped down version of the game. Despite Reach's problems, MLG is a blast once you stop getting donged on constantly...

Is that pic from PAX Prime? There was a girl there with that same color armor and a Recon (I think) helmet. It was seriously impressive suit for home made stuff...I thought it was better than the guy who won the contest.
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Yes, that was at HaloFest, I believe during that party thing that they had and didn't ID me for drinks even though I was under-age (in the US.)

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I have 6 achievements to get in Reach. I really want them, but never get the chance to get them... Once I do, I'll have all the cheeves in 3, ODST, Anniversary and Reach. I'll feel better about myself then, too.
 
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Korosenai

Member
Ramirez said:
I must have hit the bottom of trueskill in MLG, I rarely ever go negative now, and am usually one of the best in the lobby. A stark contrast to my multiple double negative games from a few weeks ago. :p

If nothing else with 4, I can hold out hope for a stripped down version of the game. Despite Reach's problems, MLG is a blast once you stop getting donged on constantly...

Is that pic from PAX Prime? There was a girl there with that same color armor and a Recon (I think) helmet. It was seriously impressive suit for home made stuff...I thought it was better than the guy who won the contest.
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Yea same here. I played reach mlg for the first time in months, and went on a pretty good win streak, then boom, a party of four appears. They absolutely shit all over me. I got rocketed right off the bat, and then spawn killed by him twice in a row. Felt bad man.
 
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NullPointer

Member
MrGreencastle said:
Your logic and sound reason is not welcome here.
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Got it. Won't happen again ;P

MrGreencastle said:
I have 6 achievements to get in Reach. I really want them, but never get the chance to get them... Once I do, I'll have all the cheeves in 3, ODST, Anniversary and Reach. I'll feel better about myself, then, too.
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I still have a few left in Reach too but that one where you have to assassinate that Elite in the Pillar of Autumn level just soured me on the whole enterprise. Tried to get that thing for a solid hour, and thought it should have unlocked at least 5 times or so during that time. When I look back on it that hour was probably the most misspent hour of my entire life.

I sincerely hope that whoever came up with that achievement has something fall on them from a great height.
 
MrGreencastle

MrGreencastle

Member
NullPointer said:
Got it. Won't happen again ;P


I still have a few left in Reach too but that one where you have to assassinate that Elite in the Pillar of Autumn level just soured me on the whole enterprise. Tried to get that thing for a solid hour, and thought it should have unlocked at least 5 times or so during that time. When I look back on it that hour was probably the most misspent hour of my entire life.

I sincerely hope that whoever came up with that achievement has something fall on them from a great height.
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That one was a frak to get. It may have took me around 50 tries to get it, but probably one of the more frustrating ones, for sure. This kill someone with a plasma they stuck to you, though, is a real dog's breakfast.
 
MrGreencastle

MrGreencastle

Member
Butane123 said:
A lot of people I hang around think its sounds a lot like an ODST silenced SMG. I think I agree.
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I say Needle Rifle. Finisher weapon, and has an interesting effect on dudes, like they said in the sparkcast. (splosion)

If the DMR and BR are in this game, why not the NR and Carbine?
 
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Garrett 2U

Member
Butane123 said:
A lot of people I hang around think its sounds a lot like an ODST silenced SMG. I think I agree.
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The name really lends itself to a human weapon, but I think it could also the the Plasma Rifle.
That gun has always been great at taking down shields...
But you could never really finish anyone, just give them blue
plasma
balls.
 
MrGreencastle

MrGreencastle

Member
Boomwood said:
The name really lends itself to a human weapon, but I think it could also the the Plasma Rifle.
That gun has always been great at taking down shields...
But you could never really finish anyone, just give them blue
plasma
balls.
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From the cast, they said they looked at Halo 1 for weapon balancing. I wonder if that means the plasma rifle will freeze people again... Fun!
 
Kibbles

Kibbles

Member
Ramirez said:
Well, that gameplay clip gives me some hope, much like the other gif that is posted all the time.

I'd be so grateful if we could just get a match of TS on one of the maps, showing all of the new stuff in action, would do so much more than any podcast or TV segment could ever do. :(
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I'm with you :'(
 
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broony

Member
Boomwood said:
but I think it could also the the Plasma Rifle.
That gun has always been great at taking down shields...

balls.
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What I think. They way they describe it, especially when they talk about audio and how it was a depleter and now a finisher makes me think this too.
 
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