panama chief
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hey nintendo.....make all your games online capable and stop thinking we all huddle in a fucking group!! not all americans live in NYC or LA and have a million people to walk by on a daily basis.
Also, I agree with everyone saying there's simply not enough western support, though I guess the lack of native dual analog sticks has really hampered things in that regard. Right now, the system is really lacking a high profile 'dude-bro' market. I feel sorta dirty saying that, but it's true.
I genuinely question whether or not this market exists. Do the big-time console gamers want to play on handhelds? I think there's a separate market here and trying to encroach on the other is going to be disastrous, especially considering how much the industry already caters to the blockbuster loving console gamer.
I genuinely question whether or not this market exists. Do the big-time console gamers want to play on handhelds? I think there's a separate market here and trying to encroach on the other is going to be disastrous, especially considering how much the industry already caters to the blockbuster loving console gamer.
Dedicated handheld gaming devices is a dying market. I'm not sure what is so difficult about this idea for people/companies to grasp.
Well, you probably make a good point. I often feel like I'm in the minority or in a different group of gamers altogether when I find myself begging for more big budget, console-like experiences on Nintendo's handhelds. Now that I know that those types of games can work on the 3DS (again, citing Revelaitons here) it only strengthens my convictions towards my own personal desire for bigger games on the go.
I think they are kind of the same issue though, if you want to enjoy 3x the jp sales in America you need that market, college guys are just way to big a part of the people that buy games here for it to be nonexistant on handhelds.
If they are content not reaching that market on a handheld then they wouldn't be trying for something like 3X jp sales here.
Well, you probably make a good point. I often feel like I'm in the minority or in a different group of gamers altogether when I find myself begging for more big budget, console-like experiences on Nintendo's handhelds. Now that I know that those types of games can work on the 3DS (again, citing Revelaitons here) it only strengthens my convictions towards my own personal desire for bigger games on the go.
Dedicated handheld gaming devices is a dying market. I'm not sure what is so difficult about this idea for people/companies to grasp.
Not in Japan.
Vita may be perfectly made to take hold of the college guy market or whatever you want to call it( not sure it even sounds right to me) but there simply haven't been any games to take advantage of it. I don't think that that market is overly against handheld games or anything, I just don't think it has been tapped into yet.
Without those kinds of games though, the higher budget action games, the shooters, the real meat and bones of the US mainstream stuff, I simply cant see them getting 3X the jp sales here.
How is that relevant in a thread about improving US sales?
NOA needs to localize and advertise more games.. Do it Reggie (fatal frame 2, Pandora's tower, FE Awakening)
I agree that "college guy" is a bad term, which is why I put in in quotes. But I also don't think it's realistic to call it the US mainstream either. The AAA market is a big market, but it's not a lucrative market.
The Vita has supported those markets though. It's got Unit 13, which was a yawn at best. It's got Wipeout, some fighting stuff, all kind of favorites from the console brands. And also part of my point is that the AAA market likes to hype itself up without any real substance (WHAT COLOR IS MASTER CHIEF'S ARMOR?) so even if the Vita didn't have anything, you'd still see people interested in it and then interest decline as the games didn't come out that they wanted. And yet, there was nothing. Zero. Zip. Even after Sony started promotion.
The market that Nintendo is going after are the 90 million people who bought a Wii, or the 150 people who bought a DS, or the fraction of the hojillion people who bought an iDevice and discovered that they like gaming and want to play something a bit meatier. The thirty million people who bought Mario Kart Wii. Even if they get a fraction of that market, it's still better than fighting with THQ over COD scraps.
I don't see the 3DS doing as well as Japan in any other region unless lightning strikes again, which it won't.
Just pointing out that it will still be around even if it's declining, because Japan will keep it alive.
They should smoke up and keep dreaming.
Release something besides the same old Mario games. Want to expand the audience? Make something new.
Shining Force.
That'll get at least 10 new sales. =P
On a serious note: If they are really going to have a 3DS virtual console as part of the selling point, perhaps they should actually have NoA maintain it well and add titles that people -really- want to play.
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Apparently that game cripples your hands if you don't use the stand though. That's not going to do it for Nintendo.
Personally, I'm not interested if it doesn't have a real OS on it anymore, like iOS and Android. Those systems have good games and apps.
The great thing is my 8 year old thinks the same way. He got a 3DS for his birthday a month ago and he still spends all his time playing on his Touch. From the POV of this parent, dedicated handheld gaming is 15 shades of dead. And this was a kid who went into apocalyptic rage last summer when his 1 1/2 year old cousin shotputted his DSi into the lake.
People want all in one devices, and kids are no different. Little dude can use iMessage to text his parents, play cheap games that he can much more easily afford than $40 Mario, YouTube, Netflix, Cable TV (via Vulkano), art apps, Pandora, the family's iTunes stuff... I guess it's no huge shock that the DS lost its luster.
Lol yea right, good luck getting American adults to purchase dedicated hand held gaming devices.
As usual Japanese company totally out of touch with the west.
Release something besides the same old Mario games. Want to expand the audience? Make something new.
Dual Circle pad revision. C'mon, Nintendo! What a boneheaded decision.