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Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes
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-Pyromaniac-
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yeah but they were at the point where they were literally about to announce it for the Wii, which means they probably had a lot done. All I'm saying is expecting it to be a graphical show-piece ground up wii-u game is PROBABLY being way too optimistic. Like EatChildren said, it might be a Wii game with some graphical upgrades bolted on, but visible wii assets and all that still there.
It could go either way, but I don't think it's cynical to think this.
GameplayWhore
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#14538: ShockingAlberto, "I do know that laid off employees from SK were asked to sign NDAs about the project they were working on prior to termination. It does not seem like SK's usual partners would be that paranoid."
That's really it. Oh, and a while back (from Wikipedia):
"In November 2011, Silicon Knights claimed they wanted to focus on one of their most requested titles for the next generation of consoles. This combined with the fact Nintendo had trademarked the title once again, spawned rumours that another Eternal Darkness game would be made as a launch title for the Wii U."
Christberg
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The basic questions I have right now have to do with how good third party support is and how much resources they're pouring into the OS. Their software targets are just way, way too broad for them to go it alone expansions or not. The OS they can get right provided they put enough resources into really, really polishing it before launch.
Third party support is the tough one. I'll be reasonably understanding if a few third party titles are late or missing for the first year but after that not so much. E3 will at least get us an idea on how much they're trying on that front. Right now it definitely feels like it's better though. THQ and Ubisoft are definitely all in this Fall.
The OS/online portion I'll get a pretty good feel for right at or close to launch.
I can see Nintendo sitting on this game until Spring 2013, whether it's ready or not. Depending on how much 3rd party support is ready at launch, I just don't see the point Pikmin being there. I think Nintendo knows it needs Mario, the new "wii sports," and something else that appeases the "core." Pikmin 3, kinda niche/kinda obscure, would probably only get the attention of Nintendo's typical fans.
The only reason Nintendo would put Pikmin 3 at launch is if it relies heavily on Wii U features.
Well, with controlling Pikmin being pretty ideal for the Wii U pad controls, we can imagine it'll feature Wii U innovations.
Also, isn't the fact that they were going to show this in 2010 but 'the conference was too busy' an actual indication that they may have already changed direction with the IP at that point already? It could even be the case that they've had two and a half years of Wii U focused development.
Also, isn't the fact that they were going to show this in 2010 but 'the conference was too busy' an actual indication that they may have already changed direction with the IP at that point already? It could even be the case that they've had two and a half years of Wii U focused development.
That is kind of what I am thinking. We have no idea when they shifted over, but it could have been a long time ago. just because Nintendo confirmed they moved it over last year doesn't mean that is when they did it.
Sometimes launch is the best time for niche games. Only reason why Red Steel sold well.
No. I refuse to believe that. Pikmin isn't a game about art direction, so that just doesn't make any sense. It'll just end up looking ugly if they do that. I only see thaem doing that if Wii U actually is significantly weaker than current consoles.
test_account
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You dont know japanese?haha, i'm not joining the video game industry in any time frame soon. No thank you, mixing business and pleasure isn't for me
(and ignoring that i've not worked in the industry to date and not being bilingual probably disqualifies me...)
Considering Miyamoto specifically brought up the visuals as a reason to transfer the game over to Wii U, I'd say that's confirmation enough that it's a focus...
Thanks. I hope this turns out to be true. ED was one of my fav Gamecube games ever.
This too. It seems like the main reasoning behind the move was HD.
I personally believe the decision to move it was made way back in 2010.
Oh but hell yes.
Now, I'd like to see a conference with two or three of those "SURPRISE!" moments. It could come from a surprise game announcement, be it from a third party or from a first party revival. It could be from a surprise controller feature like haptics. {*pauses, waiting for GameplayWhore to finish creaming himself at the mention of the H-word*} It could be a surprise guest appearance from the celebrity developer, like Mark Rein.
So many possibilities this time around, especially with Nintendo being so tight-lipped. In one seventy-five-minute period, they could squash any Sony/Microsoft E3 discussion like a bug.. if they bring the goods.
test_account
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True, but you also need an idea that people finds very interesting. Red Steel had the swordfighting thing (even if it wasnt 1:1 movement), and i think it was the first FPS game for the Wii, which was interesting enough with the point-and-shoot controls.
shadyspace
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I want ED2 if only because it would guarantee the Wii U being talked of positively at a least one outlet (Giant Bomb).
Sounds like we are agreed. A reasonable conclusion has been made.
(lol if Pikmin 3 turns out to be 2D and is on Wii U Ware)
Maybe releasing it at launch will give it Twilight Princess (Wii) momentum. If done correctly.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I wrote a piece today on most of what we know. You can read it here.
I could see this as well, but I also think Nintendo will try their hardest to avoid mistakes with the 3DS, which was giving third parties too much freedom and not pushing any big titles of their own. They might, for example, launch with Mario and that's it. Coupled with third party ports that would be sufficient. But I wouldn't be surprised if they did plan for Pikmin 3 at launch, to cater to that demographic, which is still fairly niche.
EDIT: Bought to my attention by another, and probably already posted here, but the Eternal Darkness trademark was renewed as early as January this year. See here.
Everyone's going to be there, it's going to be great.
IceDoesntHelp
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I'm not ):
Unless I can get the day the conference is on off..Tell me Nintendo, tell me the day.
-Pyromaniac-
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Hey EC pretty good article but I don't know how time works in Australia but isn't E3 in like...just over a month. You wrote a couple months at the bottom 
I'm 99.5% confident that it'll be Tuesday. Monday is waaay too crowded, and Wednesday is too late. That, and Nintendo has taken Tuesdays a number of times.
Smiles and Cries
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can Zelda HD get this kind of reaction at next year's E3?
I just don't see which IP will be that much hype...
also was sup with that crowd during TP I thought most of those were professional journos
I just don't see which IP will be that much hype...
also was sup with that crowd during TP I thought most of those were professional journos
Btw, do people here watch E3 together? Like, is there a massive Mumble chat or IRC chat during the livestreams? Cos that'd be ace.
Most people just post stuff the thread discussing the conference. It moves very fast.
Would anyone be interested in a 100 man mumble chat? I think it'd be funny.
Agent Unknown
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Thread continues to move at light speed. wsippel's info about the upgraded tablet signal possibly being strong enough to take it between floors, Craig Harris saying they 'wouldn't put Aliens CM on a console inferior to PS3/360,' and rumored Streetpass card are all awesome and encouraging bits.
I just wanted to note how profoundly disturbing it is that Crash has fleshy pink lips in this cover art. *shudder*
I just wanted to note how profoundly disturbing it is that Crash has fleshy pink lips in this cover art. *shudder*
Assuming that it stays accessible. NeoGAF is pretty stoutly-built, but a Nintendo console reveal conference can take-down the moon.
shadyspace
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Yeah. I always want to think of that moment as the epitome of hype but it always comes back to being just a total embarrassment.
If it starts with Reggie saying "But before you leave, I'd like you to step into one more world for Nintendo Wii U..."
The flashback alone will bring enough hype to have the same kind of reaction.
One thing I didn't see mentioned in there was that SK and Crystal Dynamics went to court over the Legacy of Kain franchise. That would be a pretty large factor in them not being involved with any sort of reboot.
Art direction is not something you use when you can't count on power even if looking at majority of games, it seems like it.
And pikmin has a certainly a stronger art direction than a lot of games.
That doesn't go against the need of power to make it shine.
Smiles and Cries
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Assuming that it stays accessible. NeoGAF is pretty stoutly-built, but a Nintendo console reveal conference can take-down the moon.
but thats not the first time we have seen the WiiU
so it should be okay since we are all expecting it... also MS and SONY will go first on Monday making it much easier on the servers
Assuming that it stays accessible. NeoGAF is pretty stoutly-built, but a Nintendo console reveal conference can take-down the moon.
GAF survived last E3 because of upgraded servers and whatnot, just barely
This year, is the TRUE TEST
I remember it as a relic of a bygone era when the E3 audience wasn't full of cynical stiffs.
Indeed! If GAF can survive this, it can survive ANYTHING.
Christberg
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Assuming that it stays accessible. NeoGAF is pretty stoutly-built, but a Nintendo console reveal conference can take-down the moon.
Didn't It go down for about 45 minutes when Rayman leaked or was that just me?
GAF is in for it at this E3 if that's the case.
MisterHero
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"Before everyone leaves here today, everyone that is registered with MyNintendo gets a free Wii U NOW!!"
That would be the best thing ever
That would be the best thing ever
Last year was fine but it necessitated the removal of animated avatars =(Assuming that it stays accessible. NeoGAF is pretty stoutly-built, but a Nintendo console reveal conference can take-down the moon.
I wasn't able to pay full attention to GAF that morning.. was the downtime ever attributed to one cause? Rayman was the most obvious culprit, but I don't remember seeing any confirmation..
*cries*
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
Yes, but not to the extent i'd be considered for a position that would need me to be , at least, absolutely 100% fluent.
Anyways, it's by the by, my wife is qualified for this though - but chances of her leaving her current job are zero ... unless!
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Hey EC pretty good article but I don't know how time works in Australia but isn't E3 in like...just over a month. You wrote a couple months at the bottom
We're actually a month behind.
Thanks .
.I didn't want to take up much more space in my article, but yeah, this is one of the big reasons I don't think they're working on Legacy of Kain. I doubt Square-Enix would reach out to Silicon Knights, not when Crystal Dynamics should be capable of doing it themselves, and SE already has a ton of contacts to help out where necessary.
test_account
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I understand. I was starting to wonder how you got through all your japanese games if you didnt know the language
Smiles and Cries
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GAF takes away our Avatars shuts down OT forums
now has an App for mobile hmmm
E3 will be cool
GTA V is the only shocker I'll be hyped about but who am I kidding I'll be sitting here with a goofy grin all day
now has an App for mobile hmmm
E3 will be cool
GTA V is the only shocker I'll be hyped about but who am I kidding I'll be sitting here with a goofy grin all day
shadyspace
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What if I die before E3.
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