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MLB 2K is dead

Doesn't the MLB contract allow for console makers to produce their own MLB title?

Time to bring back Nintendo Pennant Chase Baseball!

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Yup. MS and Nintendo could have published their own baseball games at any time.
When Namco brought RBI out here for the Wii, it was published under 2K.
 
who gives a shit what's good for the NFL? They already make enough money.

If they really want exclusive that bad go with 2k. It'll sell the same amount of copies.

EA hasn't done shit with Madden. THQ has done more with it's WWE games

and both have done more than 2K did with MLB, so why have faith that they'll do any better with the NFL license?
 

Cake Boss

Banned
2k sports has been in decline this generation and its almost dead.

They lost the NHL 2k series
The NFL 2k series is also gone
Now the MLB 2k series is dead
And the NBA 2k games have been in decline the past 3-4 years.
 
2K Baseball was always the bastard child.

Strange with the legacy Sega had with World Series Baseball.

I remember you had auto fielding on the first dreamcast game.
 
who gives a shit what's good for the NFL? They already make enough money.

If they really want exclusive that bad go with 2k. It'll sell the same amount of copies.

EA hasn't done shit with Madden. THQ has done more with it's WWE games

EA throws too much money at them for that to be a possibility. Their only hope is that 2k can convince them that competing videogames makes everyone better, and then hope the NFL realizes they'll make a crap load of money either way.

But the crap load will probably be more with EA's exclusive deal and honestly, why wouldn't the NFL take that? Haven't Madden sales slowed lately? They don't seem to be the sales juggernauts that they were when this deal was struck.
 
2K Baseball was always the bastard child.

Strange with the legacy Sega had with World Series Baseball.

I remember you had auto fielding on the first dreamcast game.

WSB2k1 was such an abomination. The Saturn ones were so perfect.

WSB 2k3 IIRC was the next release and it was way better. Idk what happened to them this gen, they were always just so unpolished, like every single release was rushed out to market.
 

neoemonk

Member
Nothing has made me feel older than modern baseball video games. I'm not even good at baseball and I can hit better in a batting cage than in any of these games.

Triple Play 99 was the last one I was ever any good at, unless you count Wii Sports.
 

krpiper

Member
2k sports has been in decline this generation and its almost dead.

They lost the NHL 2k series
The NFL 2k series is also gone
Now the MLB 2k series is dead
And the NBA 2k games have been in decline the past 3-4 years


lolwut I would (and many others) that 2k11 and 2k12 are fantastic basketball games.
 
2k sports has been in decline this generation and its almost dead.

They lost the NHL 2k series
The NFL 2k series is also gone
Now the MLB 2k series is dead
And the NBA 2k games have been in decline the past 3-4 years.

Whoa whoa whoa, try 1 year, 2k11 and 10 were great games.
 

JohnTinker

Limbaugh Parrot
Time for Nintendo to bring back a version of this:

197847_50339_front.jpg

DAY ONE
 
The unfortunate legacy of the MLB 2K series for gamers was that it was never a next-gen product. They chose to simply build on top of the last-gen engine, and as a result there have been legacy quirks/bugs/"features" in every iteration of the game for the last ten years. For instance, you get the same small batch of hit types (soft line drives at infielders) ten times per game every single year. In the end, it was like the team at Kush Games/Visual Concepts could only try to patch up the same walls to a rickety old house -- they were never going to be able to unlock its full potential without razing the whole thing and starting with a brand-new foundation.

Say what you will about EA, but they took the time/resources to have separate teams that built new tech from the ground-up for their sports titles in this generation, and as such they at least feel like games that pushed next-gen tech. NBA Live looked amazing even if the gameplay sucked, NHL actually took a year off between Xbox 1 and 360 so EA Canada could build new tech for it (and it's been great), and Madden's gameplay has slowly caught up to its solid tech over the course of this generation.

As an Xbox gamer and die-hard baseball fan, I sincerely hope EA has been planning to jump back into baseball at the end of 2K's exclusivity contract -- just in time for new consoles, allowing them to again build from the ground-up for it. If they have, they now get the added -- and probably unexpected -- reward of not having to deal with 2K as a competitor in that space anymore. They can own the baseball market on Xbox 720 by default, and try (emphasis: try) to give The Show a run for its money on the Sony side of things.

This is kind of funny considering it's Madden's shitty engine and tech that keep it locked in mediocrity.
 

Fox Mulder

Member
All the exclusive license bullshit has done is get me to stop playing sports games. I used to love playing these games with friends or nerd out with a few seasons of franchise mode, but it sucked how EA got the nfl license when 2k was better, and 2k got the MLB license when EA had the better game.

I'd love to try the show, but buying a ps3 as a second console was too expensive most of this gen.
 

hitmon

Member
2k hasn't made a good baseball since the Dreamcast. Not like it matters really. MLB The Show has been the best baseball franchise on the console since MVP Baseball.
 

The M.O.B

Member
Whoa whoa whoa, try 1 year, 2k11 and 10 were great games.

10 was awful, completely broken online and sloppy.

11 was better just because of Jordan, but still broken/gimped online.

12 was the same exact game just with other HOF's in it this time. Still gimpy online, and completely broken on PC for the longest time.

13?

Small incremental changes here and there but they still haven't removed so many cheap things about the game.
 
Looking at sales, The Show does about 10x's as much as 2k does. This is really one of the few instances where the superiority of a sports game compared to another has even reached to the most casual gamers when you consider how well The Show sells and how abysmal MLB 2K does.
 

Kccitystar

Member
Time for Nintendo to bring back a version of this:



197847_50339_front.jpg

This game really made the Summer of 1998 the greatest time of my life, and the bonus teams being the developers/publishers made everything even awesomer.

Fun fact: The company that developed this game (Angel Studios) at the time, is now Rockstar San Diego. You know, the guys who made Midnight Club 2, 3 and LA. They also helped develop the RAGE engine for GTAIV, Red Dead, and Midnight Club: LA.

What 2K needs to do is simply publish a Konami developed Pro Yakyuu game using the MLB license and X360 owners will be fine. EA stepping in with another MVP Baseball, if it isn't done justice for a next-gen title they will appear to be out of step, but then again, MVP Baseball 2005 was really ahead of its time.
 
Say what you will about EA, but they took the time/resources to have separate teams that built new tech from the ground-up for their sports titles in this generation, and as such they at least feel like games that pushed next-gen tech. NBA Live looked amazing even if the gameplay sucked, NHL actually took a year off between Xbox 1 and 360 so EA Canada could build new tech for it (and it's been great), and Madden's gameplay has slowly caught up to its solid tech over the course of this generation.

False. The year they "took off" they spent making NHL 06 for Xbox, PS2 and PC. They didn't start development on NHL 07 for 360 until they shipped NHL 06 (and that's when development for PS2 and PC shifted over to the EA Montreal Studio on NHL 07)
 

pax217

Member
MLB The Show has been the best baseball game out there since at least 09, and only gets better each year (although that was minimal between 2010 and 2011). The MLB 2K series has been declining rapidly since 2K5 (but I've heard they've improved over the last two seasons, I haven't played).

The NBA 2K series is the same, it just gets better, and it's already the best (I've played, but haven't owned the 2K series since 2K12)

Madden is a terrible football game, and is a perfect example of what happens with market regulation. All-Pro Football 2K8 was bad but is still worth playing over today's Madden release.

The NHL 2K series was a wash from year-to-year, sometimes they'd get it right, sometimes it'd be horribly wrong (2K7, 2K8).... one of the best games EA makes is the NHL series, and that's because it's made by Canadians who actually have a passion for both games and the topic they're on (hockey).
 
MVP Baseball was very good but legend of it grew a bit much until The Show gave people an outlet. MVP Baseball was just a tweaked version of the Griffey N64 games.

High Heat games are still worth mourning. The best balance of realism and fun.
 

Mitsurux

Member
Another deal awash...

What is interesting is to think back a console generation or 2 and look at all of the choices availble for sports gamers.... then look at the current landscape... very little choices remain... sad really...


For baseball games (thinking of game modes) nothing came close to all of the modes of play offered by the MLB Power Pro's series... (A close second might have been Allstar Baseball 2005 as it had a ton of content)

How similar was that XBLA game MLB Bobble Head pros to the acctual Power Pros games, cause they looked very similar (besides art style)

I wonder how long 2k will keep the 2kShare fuction for this game going, as in theory the rosters could be updated by the fans for a year or 2 (NHL2k10 has pretty accurate rosters availble for download created by fans).
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
Legally-binding contracts are legally-binding contracts, bro.

So you are saying EA couldn't spend the past two years developing a generic baseball game then fill it with authentic MLB players and stadiums once they get the rights? Which "legally-binding contracts" would stop that from happening? That would be the way to go if you wanted to hit the market ASAP. Get the gameplay and mechanics worked out first then add authentic details.
 

Izick

Member
That's what they deserve for putting out those shitty games. Buying the license to a sport always ruins the games in the long run, look at the shit-show Madden has been.

Hopefully, nobody buys up the license, and EA makes MVP again, and a couple years from now, 2K tries again.
 

Riggs

Banned
This game really made the Summer of 1998 the greatest time of my life, and the bonus teams being the developers/publishers made everything even awesomer.

Fun fact: The company that developed this game (Angel Studios) at the time, is now Rockstar San Diego. You know, the guys who made Midnight Club 2, 3 and LA. They also helped develop the RAGE engine for GTAIV, Red Dead, and Midnight Club: LA.

What 2K needs to do is simply publish a Konami developed Pro Yakyuu game using the MLB license and X360 owners will be fine. EA stepping in with another MVP Baseball, if it isn't done justice for a next-gen title they will appear to be out of step, but then again, MVP Baseball 2005 was really ahead of its time.

Wow good info, ya that summer was great man. I played this game so much it was troubling.
 

plc268

Member
Man, I miss those days where there were at least three versions of each sport from competing companies, along with arcade styles of the game.

Now, there's just one sim game per sport... and while some are good, MLB The Show, the others could use some healthy competition again. Also the sports genre is severely lacking in the "fun" arcade style games. Sure we've got NBA Jam and NFL Blitz back, but we need more.
 
So you are saying EA couldn't spend the past two years developing a generic baseball game then fill it with authentic MLB players and stadiums once they get the rights? Which "legally-binding contracts" would stop that from happening? That would be the way to go if you wanted to hit the market ASAP. Get the gameplay and mechanics worked out first then add authentic details.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the sales would be pretty lousy without the MLB license. Otherwise, why do people buy Madden year after year with minimal gameplay improvements?
 

McNei1y

Member
Wait, that article can't be right. This past year was 2k's last year on their exclusivity deal. Wouldn't that mean any third-party/company can create an MLB game for the 360 now?
 
Man, I miss those days where there were at least three versions of each sport from competing companies, along with arcade styles of the game.

Now, there's just one sim game per sport... and while some are good, MLB The Show, the others could use some healthy competition again. Also the sports genre is severely lacking in the "fun" arcade style games. Sure we've got NBA Jam and NFL Blitz back, but we need more.

The Bigs and The Bigs 2.
 
Wait, that article can't be right. This past year was 2k's last year on their exclusivity deal. Wouldn't that mean any third-party/company can create an MLB game for the 360 now?

Why would you if next-gen is around the corner though? Makes more business sense to build a new engine for a baseball game around next-gen architecture.
 

Lkr

Member
MVP_Baseball_2005_Coverart.png


just port this to 360 next year, update the rosters, touch up the graphics a bit, KEEP OWNER MODE, and you have a million dollar seller right there
 
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