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NPD May 2012 Sales Results [Up4: Max Payne 3, Dragon's Dogma, Ghost Recon]

slit

Member
Despite its E3 showing, this market is wide open for Nintendo to take back control this holiday. They have the 3DS software lineup to do it, and a new box thing that plays Rayman and 50 Mario titles I hear.

Don't say that! You'll make the people here angry.
 
New low,i believe 2007 was lower by 5,000 but that ain't much. Price drop is likely which would make sense before the xbox 3 is released next year.
 

Petrae

Member
Not sure what you guys are asking for a new console for? They just need to cut the price and they will be good to go for a while for sure. I'm sure at this point they are waiting to see how much WiiU is going to cost before doing so

Saturation is the answer you're looking for. Most consumers who want or have interest in a video game console currently have one. No reason to buy multiples, unless your unit dies.

The thinking (or hope) is that new consoles will rekindle interest in the market and get consumers spending again. Unlike a generation ago, confidence in that scenario isn't significant.
 

Raide

Member
It should bother any gamer that solid new IPs aren't rewarded with sales. Gamers are the reason the same unambitious games are peddled to us ever year from the same franchises. Dragon's Dogma > your lame pun

Capcoms attempt to draw in gamers to something semi Monster Hunter and yet they miss out online play. Next time just give us Monster Hunter.
 

Averon

Member
Increasing by 17% isn't anything to go crazy about.

Especially when you consider the price differential between the 3DS in May 2011 and May 2012. Barely moving 100K units after a massive price cut is bad. And I'm statrting to wonder if NSMB2 is the savior some think it will be. Tablets and smartphones have devastated the handheld market for Sony and Nintendo.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Dragon's Dogma. :(

Well, at least the Japan numbers were decent to good.

Honestly, they should probably give the next one 1/10th-1/5th the budget and make it for handhelds.

I mean, it got outsold by Rebellion's stealth release and Battlefield 3's eighth month.
 

Petrae

Member
Especially when you consider the price differential between the 3DS in May 2011 and May 2012. Barely moving 100K units after a massive price cut is bad. And I'm statrting to wonder if NSMB2 i a savior some think it will be. Tablets and smartphones have devastated the handheld market for Sony and Nintendo.

Devastated may be a bit strong, IMO. Limiting the amount of potential success that 3DS and Vita can have seems better.
 
PS2 - 187,765
GCN - 10,728
GBA - 80,554
DS - 423,150
PSP - 221,120
360 - 154,932
PS3 - 81,604
Wii - 338,278

You're right, 2007 was lower, but the 360 wasn't the best selling platform then.

That's just scary. 4 platforms higher than 360 in 2007, 2 significantly so, and this month 360 is the highest selling hardware with similar numbers to 2007...
 

B.O.O.M

Member
Saturation is the answer you're looking for. Most consumers who want or have interest in a video game console currently have one. No reason to buy multiples, unless your unit dies.

The thinking (or hope) is that new consoles will rekindle interest in the market and get consumers spending again. Unlike a generation ago, confidence in that scenario isn't significant.

I honestly want to see what a price cut would do to console sales. I think many, especially core gamers, will pick up the other systems with a good price cut and some marketing behind it.

But all things considered this gen has been pretty fantastic overall sales wise. So I agree that saturation must be a big factor now.
 

StevieP

Banned
How bout, "well um, the chip sizes can't shrink anymore but our sales sure are" I think all the consoles have basically hit most of the people they're going to hit at the current pricing. Maybe they're happy with 100K every month but we're hitting a point that the only thing thats going to push new hardware sales is going to be a price drop. I'm not sure a new game will do much.

So you're saying that console makers should (potentially) sell at a slight loss rather than a profit, so that they can sell more... consoles... at a slight loss? What kind of logic is this? lol

There is likely a reason why MS are toying with subscription models (I mean outside of their next gen unit) and it may have something to do with the fact that they had an extremely difficult time shrinking the chips (both companies did, iirc) and going further with it would require significant investment that, perhaps, their bean counters said wouldn't give an ROI. Getting to the node they are both currently at took a *LOT* of money and effort in R&D.

There was enough red at the beginning of this generation, so you may be proposing them to go right back to that place again. I don't think their bean counters would be a fan of that.

What people fail to realize is that node shrinks will be even more difficult and yield *less* cost-to-benefit result than even this gen. Pricing your next gen console for the mass market adoption to take place is going to be even trickier. That is... without a subscription model in place.
 

szaromir

Banned
Consoles are overpriced, 360 has had the same pricepoints since September 2008. If they followed more traditional price trajectory software market would likely be a bit more lively. Also, the industry relies on sequels too much and it has become stale - not much interest from wider public.
 

Dabanton

Member
I don't get Capcom you have co-op in every one of your games expect Dragons Dogma?

Ridiculous. Whoever's decision that was should be hauled over the coles.
 
I might even buy a 360 at $99. Without any bullshit contract.

But then again, I have a PS3 that I have never used except for Guitar Hero and FF7.
 

Iksenpets

Banned
Holy shit, 160K is terrible. And that's the best selling console on the market? They need to price cut now to keep afloat until next gen...
 

UberTag

Member
If the Wii U did in fact launch in July or August, how can it not sell a shit ton? People want/need new tech.
The Vita is new tech. People don't want that.
If anything, Wii U is older tech than what Vita brought to the table.

Anyone that wants new tech is buying an iPad. Or an iPhone.
Or iPhones for the rest of their family.
Or "always online-let's make money selling gear" Diablo III to play on their 5-year-old PCs.
 

Kusagari

Member
Dragon's Bomba actually made the top 10, but looking at the low console sales and some of the games above it I'm guessing it's not even close to 100k.
 

JudgeN

Member
I swear this isn't a port wishing thing, but I already thought it likely that Capcom would port over Dragon's Dogma to Wii U. Now I think it is even more likely.

It would make more sense to port it over to PC like every other HD capcom game, its really odd that it hasn't been announced yet if its going to happen at all.

If it isn't going to happen I wish they would just says so and I'll pick it up on PS3.
 

StevieP

Banned
The Vita is new tech. People don't want that.
If anything, Wii U is older tech than what Vita brought to the table.

Nah, it's about the same. The Vita's chips were based on 2008/2009 tech, and the Wii U's were (prior to customization) 2009.
 

JABEE

Member
Holy shit, 160K is terrible. And that's the best selling console on the market? They need to price cut now to keep afloat until next gen...

That's why I don't understand how you can come out with a system on par with the current systems at $300+ with no hard drive. It would be insane.
 

nasos_333

Member
Holy shit, 160K is terrible. And that's the best selling console on the market? They need to price cut now to keep afloat until next gen...

Depends

360 has Halo 4 this holiday and Fable Journey, plus Gears soon after

They probably expect to make up then, it could be one of their best holiday sales yet
 
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