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[Razlo]

I'll get whatever it is.

 

[DR2K]

I shall take that into consideration, then.


Every pic in that set is so random. LOL. I love Pixiv, though. As long as you're looking for the right stuff, you're going to find well-drawn stuff.


So, this is the amount of people who demonstrated their enthusiasm?

Maybe the announcement is that they're handing over localization of Tales to Atlus.

 

[ULTROS!]

Huh, who to believe? 20k or 45k for TotA 3DS?

Also, I'd like to add that Tales of Graces f had an Asian English release, so I'm sure Tales of Graces f English is not stuck to 62k.

 

[Kagari]

Huh, who to believe? 20k or 45k for TotA 3DS?

Also, I'd like to add that Tales of Graces f had an Asian English release, so I'm sure Tales of Graces f English is not stuck to 62k.

I said 20K less than the Graces number...

 

[Byronic Hero]

To be more specific:

Abyss 3D - 45,101

Graces F - 63,931

To be perfectly honest, I'm surprised Graces broke 50,000. I really hope these numbers don't discourage Bamco.

 

[DR2K]

I doubt Graces F had a good word of mouth either. just about everything is bombing on 3DS software wise in the US. I'm expecting a huge resurgance for 3DSXL though.

 

[Synless]

I shall take that into consideration, then.


Every pic in that set is so random. LOL. I love Pixiv, though. As long as you're looking for the right stuff, you're going to find well-drawn stuff.


So, this is the amount of people who demonstrated their enthusiasm?

I was part of both games, and I already own Abyss, and I really disliked that game.

 

[kayos90]

I shall take that into consideration, then.


Every pic in that set is so random. LOL. I love Pixiv, though. As long as you're looking for the right stuff, you're going to find well-drawn stuff.


So, this is the amount of people who demonstrated their enthusiasm?

Coolio

Yes. LOL! Pixiv is a weird place. You get really bad art. You get really good art. Then you get hentai. *sigh*

Tales fans don't have enthusiasm. They just lack maturity. Oh wait.....

Tales of Symphonia 3DS should have happened.

Oh gosh no....

 

[ULTROS!]

Whoops, my bad.

Did Tales of the Abyss 3DS get decent marketing?

 

[Conor 419]

Those are good numbers for a 3DS game.

 

[Levyne]

Whoops, my bad.

Did Tales of the Abyss 3DS get decent marketing?

It was on a shelf in a nearby Gamestop with a handwritten sign saying "TOM'S FAVORITES", does that count?

 

[Seda]

I'm a tiny (and I mean tiny) bit interested in how Graces does in UK, considering the Namco UK office actually seems to give a darn about that release.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

I bought Graces f to support Tales games coming to the West, but honestly if it weren't for that I wish I wouldn't have. I found it nowhere near as good as Vesperia, as unpopular an opinion as that is on here with people touting Graces like it's one of the best ones ever. I stopped playing it after getting mostly through Future Arc and went back and played Vesperia through again, to be precise. XD

I would absolutely double dip on PS3 Vesperia, that game is amazing and having all the bonus stuff + Flynn and Patty would make it an insta-buy.

Start, /\, L1: It's the only way!™

Except Tales is not a system seller. It doesn't sell much, so that is why I am saying that it is a bad business decision to bring over a game that doesn't sell a lot on systems that are doing well to a system that is not doing too well.

I bought my 360 for ToV at launch.

Maybe the announcement is that they're handing over localization of Tales to Atlus.

OK, now the delirious fantasizing of deus ex machina has descended upon the thread. News is desperately needed.

 

[Vamphuntr]

Abyss 3D did great considering it's a port of a PS2 game and that it's on 3DS. They already had the localization too so it probably didn't need much to turn a profit.

That Jade appeal :O

Graces f did around half of what Vesperia did, ouch. Hopefully the people that bought Graces f and didn't like it because they felt it was different from Symphonia/Abyss/Vesperia don't give up on the franchise. I guess that's the price on having 2-3 teams working on the series.

 

[Seven Force]

Whoops, my bad.

Did Tales of the Abyss 3DS get decent marketing?

Most I saw was a makeshift display of the case near a register.

 

[PixyJunket]

Wouldn't Namco be concerned about territories like Europe, where Vesperia was only on 360?

Yeah, they probably should be, espeically looking at the Vesperia and Graces NPD numbers.

I believe being multi-platform would benefit the series overseas, personally.

 

[kayos90]

I'm a tiny (and I mean tiny) bit interested in how Graces does in UK, considering the Namco UK office actually seems to give a darn about that release.

Do they? DO THEY?! Lol.

I'm interested in this as well. Does anyone have sales figures for Vesperia for EU?

 

[ULTROS!]

That's a sad way to market it...

I dunno but maybe all Tales games have slow US openings? What were the first month NPD numbers of Tales of the Abyss PS2, Tales of Vesperia, and Tales of the World: Radiant Mythologies?

 

[Seda]

Do they? DO THEY?! Lol.

I'm interested in this as well. Does anyone have sales figures for Vesperia for EU?

A tiny bit.

 

[Dark Schala]

Whoops, my bad.

Did Tales of the Abyss 3DS get decent marketing?

I seem to recall someone in a thread around here saying that they put up a sign advertising it in American GameStops... after the game had been released. >.>

That's a sad way to market it...

I dunno but maybe all Tales games have slow US openings? What were the first month NPD numbers of Tales of the Abyss PS2, Tales of Vesperia, and Tales of the World: Radiant Mythologies?

Didn't they release Abyss PS2 really close to FFXII? I wouldn't be surprised if that didn't do very well.

 

[DR2K]

Oh gosh no....

It's well established with Nintendo and the full edition hasn't been released in the US. Would have made a little more sense than Abyss, not that I'm complaining since Abyss rocks.

 

[kayos90]

That's a sad way to market it...

I dunno but maybe all Tales games have slow US openings? What were the first month NPD numbers of Tales of the Abyss PS2, Tales of Vesperia, and Tales of the World: Radiant Mythologies?

Let's just say that Vesperia did much better and TotA & RM didn't do as well. lol.

I seem to recall someone in a thread around here saying that they put up a sign advertising it in American GameStops... after the game had been released. >.>


Didn't they release Abyss PS2 really close to FFXII? I wouldn't be surprised if that didn't do very well.

Uber fail.... Also, yes Abyss was released then so it didn't do well. You're exactly right. BUWHAHAHAHA

 

[B.K.]

For comparison:

Tales of Destiny - 68,647
Tales of Destiny 2 (Eternia) - 57,896
Tales of Symphonia - 470,253
Tales of Legendia - 83,343
Tales of Phantasia - 88,235
Tales of the Abyss - 72,192
Tales of the World - 39,809
Tales of Vesperia - 144,354
Tales of Vesperia LE - 6944
Tales of Symphonia 2 - 136,695

 

[kewlmyc]

Eh, it's to be expected. I wonder if they made any money off of the DLC.

Plus, I honestly doubt that advertisements would have changed anything. Tales series aren't popular at all in the US. JRPGs are mostly dead in the US and a few advertisements wouldn't have changed anything.

 

[A Black Falcon]

For comparison:

Tales of Destiny - 68,647
Tales of Destiny 2 (Eternia) - 57,896
Tales of Symphonia - 470,253
Tales of Legendia - 83,343
Tales of Phantasia - 88,235
Tales of the Abyss - 72,192
Tales of the World - 39,809
Tales of Vesperia - 144,354
Tales of Vesperia LE - 6944
Tales of Symphonia 2 - 136,695

I'm pretty sure Abyss (PS2) and Legendia have both gotten reprints within the last year or so, there were a bunch of suspiciously new-looking "used" copies in Gamestop not too long back... is that included there? I am kind of surprised at that Abyss PS2 number if it is the total, though, I'd have thought it'd at least outsell Legendia.

 

[B.K.]

I'm pretty sure Abyss (PS2) and Legendia have both gotten reprints within the last year or so, there were a bunch of suspiciously new-looking "used" copies in Gamestop not too long back... is that included there?

As far as I know, those are the LTD numbers.

 

[kayos90]

Eh, it's to be expected. I wonder if they made any money off of the DLC.

I'm really hoping that they didn't make any, or made very little, money off of the DLC. If not... well... *sigh*....

 

[PixyJunket]

For comparison:

Tales of Destiny - 68,647
Tales of Destiny 2 (Eternia) - 57,896
Tales of Symphonia - 470,253
Tales of Legendia - 83,343
Tales of Phantasia - 88,235
Tales of the Abyss - 72,192
Tales of the World - 39,809
Tales of Vesperia - 144,354
Tales of Vesperia LE - 6944
Tales of Symphonia 2 - 136,695

Why did it have to be Symphonia?!

 

[ULTROS!]

For comparison:

Tales of Destiny - 68,647
Tales of Destiny 2 (Eternia) - 57,896
Tales of Symphonia - 470,253
Tales of Legendia - 83,343
Tales of Phantasia - 88,235
Tales of the Abyss - 72,192
Tales of the World - 39,809
Tales of Vesperia - 144,354
Tales of Vesperia LE - 6944
Tales of Symphonia 2 - 136,695

Are these the first month openings or current US LTDs?

 

[InfiniDragon]

Christ Almighty, Legendia did better than Abyss? At least it didn't outsell Phantasia or I'd have had to go knock some heads in the street Final Fight style...Legendia suuuuuucks. Dawn of the New World did better than I thought it would too; I liked it well enough but it was pretty much the console equivalent of Tales of the World which bombed big time.

 

[kayos90]

Why did it have to be Symphonia?!

Cuz it actually got ads and it was last gen. LOL

Are these the first month openings or current US LTDs?

First month

Christ Almighty, Legendia did better than Abyss? At least it didn't outsell Phantasia or I'd have had to go knock some heads in the street Final Fight style...Legendia suuuuuucks. Dawn of the New World did better than I thought it would too; I liked it well enough but it was pretty much the console equivalent of Tales of the World which bombed big time.

Abyss had to go against FFXII hence the numbers.

 

[B.K.]

Christ Almighty, Legendia did better than Abyss?

It helped that Legendia was the superior game.

Are these the first month openings or current US LTDs?

LTDs.

 

[Dark Schala]

Tales of Vesperia LE - 6944

No wonder we didn't get the Graces LE that Europe's getting.

Why did it have to be Symphonia?!

On the GameCube. Not a lot of RPGs on the system. Nintendo probably gave it a bit of a push.

 

[Levyne]

Are you guys talking bad about Symphonia?

*rolls up sleeves*

 

[kayos90]

No wonder we didn't get the Graces LE that Europe's getting.


On the GameCube. Not a lot of RPGs on the system. Nintendo probably gave it a bit of a push.

I bought that Vesperia CE. Too bad the case was horrible to remove the disc from and caused me to buy a second copy. *sigh*

LTDs.

Really? I stand corrected.

 

[Seda]

Are you guys talking bad about Symphonia?

*rolls up sleeves*

That's just PixyJunket, man, leave him be.

 

[Seven Force]

Why did it have to be Symphonia?!

Dat Nintendo backing.

Abyss's decided release date still kinda baffles me to this day.

 

[InfiniDragon]

It helped that Legendia was the superior game.

Hell no, I couldn't even finish Legendia. That game was damn awful, and that's before I factor Shirley into the decision (which makes it worse than awful). At least for Abyss' shortcomings it had the really fun battle system.

Tales of Symphonia 3DS should have happened.

If memory serves correctly they said they originally wanted to do Symphonia 3DS instead of Abyss, but the 3DS couldn't handle Symphonia's Gamecube based engine and rendering techniques without a ton of work and corners being cut, so they did Abyss because the PS2 engine they used ported well.

 

[B.K.]

Abyss's decided release date still kinda baffles me to this day.

It doesn't surprise me. Bandai Namco is really incompetent. I'm surprised Graces F wasn't released the same day as XIII-2.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

It doesn't surprise me. Bandai Namco is really incompetent. I'm surprised Graces F wasn't released the same day as XIII-2.

I half-seriously predicted that last year. I'm still shellshocked it didn't come true.

 

[PixyJunket]

It helped that Legendia was the superior game.

Haha, awesome. Legendia's first half, I'd agree on. Too bad the game didn't end when it should have.

Are you guys talking bad about Symphonia?

Sure. I was playing Destiny 2 and Rebirth around the same time.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

For comparison:

Tales of Destiny - 68,647
Tales of Destiny 2 (Eternia) - 57,896
Tales of Symphonia - 470,253
Tales of Legendia - 83,343
Tales of Phantasia - 88,235
Tales of the Abyss - 72,192
Tales of the World - 39,809
Tales of Vesperia - 144,354
Tales of Vesperia LE - 6944
Tales of Symphonia 2 - 136,695

The fucking Game Cube game selling close to 500k, mess. :lol

 

[InfiniDragon]

Abyss had to go against FFXII hence the numbers.

Now that you mention it, it did (stupidly) try to take on FFXII. No wonder it tanked.

 

[kayos90]

I half-seriously predicted that last year. I'm still shellshocked it didn't come true.

Same here. I was absolutely baffled. Still... it came out in the same month as ME3 so it's good enough. LOL

 

[B.K.]

Still... it came out in the same month as ME3 so it's good enough. LOL

Mass Effect and Tales don't really share the same audience though. Even releasing on the same date as Mass Effect 3 probably wouldn't have hurt Graces F.

 

[Edgeward]

It helped that Legendia was the superior game.

I like you. Ors ors!

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Abyss's decided release date still kinda baffles me to this day.

They just don't seem to have any sense to tell the truth .

 

[Dark Schala]

Sure. I was playing Destiny 2 and Rebirth around the same time.

Yeah, I don't think I can go back to Symphonia's version of the LMBS anymore...

I half-seriously predicted that last year. I'm still shellshocked it didn't come true.

Same. I truly expected them to launch in January or February. At least they didn't get too cocky this time.

 

[Sagitario]

It's not gonna be dirty or anything! :O

It's likely going to be tame and something that doesn't stand out, don't worry about it.

It should stand the heck out! If he's going to do it, he should go big! We all know about his love for Xillia and Jude, after all

Also...

Edit:

Haha, awesome. Legendia's first half, I'd agree on. Too bad the game didn't end when it should have.

Legendia's character's quest were awesome. Specially Norma's, Chloe's and Will's.
I wish more games used this structure.

 

[BY2K]

If memory serves correctly they said they originally wanted to do Symphonia 3DS instead of Abyss, but the 3DS couldn't handle Symphonia's Gamecube based engine and rendering techniques without a ton of work and corners being cut, so they did Abyss because the PS2 engine they used ported well.

How does that work?

I thought the 3DS was in power closer to the Wii than the PS2.