Isnt all this, really obvious?
I mean you are not the only person who is unclear on the ending and I felt it was explained in a quite straight forward way. And then we have people criticizing it for being too obvious.
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I mean you are not the only person who is unclear on the ending and I felt it was explained in a quite straight forward way. And then we have people criticizing it for being too obvious.
FlashbladeGAF
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problem too is Batman is loved by all ages and since they want to sell a couple million toys you cant have kids heroes dying in their own movie unfortunately
The only things I really rolled my eyes at were when JGL came to Wayne Manor and was like, yeah Bruce, I know you're Batman. And then at the climax with the dialogue that was exchanged between Bats, Cats and Gordon.
Other than that I had a pretty good time. Bane could have been more of a force, and he certainly was made to look weak during the plot turn, but it could have been worse.
I can't wait to watch it at home on BD.
Other than that I had a pretty good time. Bane could have been more of a force, and he certainly was made to look weak during the plot turn, but it could have been worse.
I can't wait to watch it at home on BD.
Hero_of_the_Day
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The Solo must come back. I'm F5ing the shit out of this thread in anticipation.
He's doing laundry then his dishes.
Escape Goat
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Solo need a clean slate.
A Solo's gotta eat.
pizza
Yeah that was the nuts! I couldn't remember the order the scenes was in.
Did anyone else stay till the end of the credits?
6 people stayed till the end, and we all had a good laugh when there was nothing, we'd all been fed false infoof course he fucking loved it. it was Batman Begins 2.
Haha, I wonder if the theater chaps were laughing at you six.Did anyone else stay till the end of the credits?
SonicMegaDrive
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I stayed post credits but only because they didnt turn the lights back on until the credits finished.
Huh, I totally don't remember that. It's been a long time since I've watched Memento.
Honestly thought Bruce was just fucking with her when he was holding it.
Just read this line without context.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
People being confused about the ending must have been high. Me and my wife both thought Nolan was really really leading the audience step by step. I wished it had just shown Alfred nodding and that had been it. Seeing people be confused makes me realize how insanely obvious directors have to be about everything and subtlety is impossible.
Bruce himself was the 'clean slate'. Not some piece of hardware or software.
Bruce helped her escape and start fresh, as the final scene clearly shows.
and come on, Fucking Batarangs make a reappearance!
FUCKING BATARANGS
I assume that Bruce used the one working bridge to cross back into Gotham. Of course he wouldn't just walk on the road, so I assume he stealth across along the cables at the top of the bridge, or somehow along the bottom of it. Had to be up there to spray on a flamable batman symbol
FUCKING BATARANGS
I assume that Bruce used the one working bridge to cross back into Gotham. Of course he wouldn't just walk on the road, so I assume he stealth across along the cables at the top of the bridge, or somehow along the bottom of it. Had to be up there to spray on a flamable batman symbol
Doctor West
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JGL owned this fucking movie. Does this mean there will be a Nightwing film? I want one so badly it hurts, lol.
vicissitudes
Banned
Actually, did they ever explain how the aircraft survived the explosion?
Who said Robin had to suit up that week? He could train for a few years and come back. Hell he could probably ask Bruce to train him.
Good movie. 7/10. BB was better though. BB > TDK > TKDR
I fucking LOVED IT. Let's get this out of the way straight away - in some ways this is the very worst entry in the series, and in some ways its the very best entry in the series. It is BY FAR (like much, MUCH more than even BB) the most comic book-y of the films.
As such, it carries a whole host of contrivances and holes in the plot and the film's internal logic that trump anything seen in either BB or TDK. Big time. I suspect this is a movie that will have its nits picked to an extent that would make the nitpicking done on TDK seem tame. Also, time and distance are played extremely fast and loose with, and as such, I would probably would say its the messiest movie of the three, from an editing and plotting perspective. Some of the characters, Bane and Miranda Tate chief among them, were not nearly as well developed as Rhas was in BB or The Joker or Harvey were in TDK. Fabulously acted, but both felt as though they needed some more meat on their bones. The action wasn't bad at all, and most of it was clearly shot, but as usual it lacked that stylistic and editing prowess that Nolan's action always does. So yeah, TDKR has its problems.
Thankfully, it's also FUCKING AWESOME. Bruce's arc, which has always been the heart of the franchise for me (and his backseat role in TDK is one of the reasons I am down on that film), gets the treatment and the screentime it deserved, and Nolan pulled it off brilliantly. Like, fucking amazingly. I had the biggest smile on my face during the final scenes. The heart and emotional undercurrent that drove BB has returned here in droves, and Bale really gets to shine. It really felt like the ending to an epic trilogy, and it really went out with a bang. The final few minutes were just perfect. I suspect there will be some controversy arise out of some of the final events, but I felt there were all thematically justified and struck just the right note for me. I was 100% completely satisfied with the journey of Bruce Wayne.
There is a whole host of fanservice in this movie, but you know what? That shit fucking worked for me. TDK and especially BB have heaps of references to them, both overt and subtle, and I ate that shit right up. The cast was great as usual, with the real standouts aside from Bale this time being Michael Caine and Anne Hathaway. Caine just fucking slays me when he gets on with the emotional stuff, and Anne absolutely owned her role and definitely came to play. So many great scenes that I know I've likely forgotten half of them already, yet some of them are instantly unforgettable to me.
A bold, unconventional, out there conclusion to a flawed, but very special trilogy for me. It's Chris Nolan being Chris Nolan, and all the good and the bad that comes with it, and he nailed this one for me. A script with issues triumphed over by a movie with character arcs and emotional beats that resonate.
I fucking LOVED IT. Let's get this out of the way straight away - in some ways this is the very worst entry in the series, and in some ways its the very best entry in the series. It is BY FAR (like much, MUCH more than even BB) the most comic book-y of the films.
As such, it carries a whole host of contrivances and holes in the plot and the film's internal logic that trump anything seen in either BB or TDK. Big time. I suspect this is a movie that will have its nits picked to an extent that would make the nitpicking done on TDK seem tame. Also, time and distance are played extremely fast and loose with, and as such, I would probably would say its the messiest movie of the three, from an editing and plotting perspective. Some of the characters, Bane and Miranda Tate chief among them, were not nearly as well developed as Rhas was in BB or The Joker or Harvey were in TDK. Fabulously acted, but both felt as though they needed some more meat on their bones. The action wasn't bad at all, and most of it was clearly shot, but as usual it lacked that stylistic and editing prowess that Nolan's action always does. So yeah, TDKR has its problems.
Thankfully, it's also FUCKING AWESOME. Bruce's arc, which has always been the heart of the franchise for me (and his backseat role in TDK is one of the reasons I am down on that film), gets the treatment and the screentime it deserved, and Nolan pulled it off brilliantly. Like, fucking amazingly. I had the biggest smile on my face during the final scenes. The heart and emotional undercurrent that drove BB has returned here in droves, and Bale really gets to shine. It really felt like the ending to an epic trilogy, and it really went out with a bang. The final few minutes were just perfect. I suspect there will be some controversy arise out of some of the final events, but I felt there were all thematically justified and struck just the right note for me. I was 100% completely satisfied with the journey of Bruce Wayne.
There is a whole host of fanservice in this movie, but you know what? That shit fucking worked for me. TDK and especially BB have heaps of references to them, both overt and subtle, and I ate that shit right up. The cast was great as usual, with the real standouts aside from Bale this time being Michael Caine and Anne Hathaway. Caine just fucking slays me when he gets on with the emotional stuff, and Anne absolutely owned her role and definitely came to play. So many great scenes that I know I've likely forgotten half of them already, yet some of them are instantly unforgettable to me.
A bold, unconventional, out there conclusion to a flawed, but very special trilogy for me. It's Chris Nolan being Chris Nolan, and all the good and the bad that comes with it, and he nailed this one for me. A script with issues triumphed over by a movie with character arcs and emotional beats that resonate.
Zen_Arcade
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I don't know about that. I'd like to see Batman be, you know, Batman. Use whatever resources he has to do something other people can't do. Especially when a huge plot point is how beaten and broken he is.
At least be consistant. If you're going to show a flashback of something literally said 5 seconds before I think you should explain an amazing feat like getting half way around the world in a few days when you aren't supposed to have anything left to your name. I mean he just shows back up in Gotham and no one is like "Holy shit what happened to you?"
Then what does he hand over to her? It seems as if it is a real thing that they have utilized. I understand that Bruce has "disappeared" in the past (having now officially been declared dEad twice in the Nolan-verse), but he clearly gives her some sort of device that is implied to be the Clean Slate. Unless that is some horribly overdone symbolic shit.
He's going to ask Bruce in Italy to train him?
I actually expected Bruce to be waiting for Robin in the cave when we first saw him going there. But then he's randomly in Italy.
I can most of what he says since there's usually no music and his accent isn't thick.I can never understand Michael Caine
I can't figure out if I'm losing hearing, the music is too loud, or bad editing for other shit tho.
Sorcerer
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Yeah that was the nuts! I couldn't remember the order the scenes was in.
Did anyone else stay till the end of the credits?
I always stay to the end to enjoy some music at least.
But this was a finale. What would an extra scene accomplish?
I don't think doing an extra scene in the credits is Nolan's style.
When are the rumors going to start that Levitt is going to come back in the 2015 reboot?
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Thought about how they could do a sequel. Have Bruce see a news report about Gotham. Being in bad shape again and Robin isn't doing such a great job. Bruce comes back trains him. Make the bad guy Hugo Strange it could be awesome.
that chip was just a show to convince her. the device never existed.
bruce helped her disappear. and that is that.
if i was to guess, id say the chip had instructions on how to find him after his 'death'
billy beane
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There were definitely some scenes where the music completely overpowered the dialogue. It was very annoying.
vicissitudes
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No sequels please.
Also I loathed the Robin reference. I thought Nolan said he would never do that crap. A lot of the fanservice just felt superfluous and dragged the movie down. I could have done without the entire Scarecrow scene.
Also I loathed the Robin reference. I thought Nolan said he would never do that crap. A lot of the fanservice just felt superfluous and dragged the movie down. I could have done without the entire Scarecrow scene.
I think you missed the joke.
Just got out of the movie. Overall, I'm very happy with it. I've got a few nitpiks here and there, but they don't hold or diminsh the movie overall.
Quick question; did Bane sound weird to anyone else the beginning of the movie? I thought the theater sound was messed up or something - It sounded much better later on. Then again, I watched the IMAX prologue a bunch of times, so I was probably getting used to the new voice.
Quick question; did Bane sound weird to anyone else the beginning of the movie? I thought the theater sound was messed up or something - It sounded much better later on. Then again, I watched the IMAX prologue a bunch of times, so I was probably getting used to the new voice.
MrPink93485
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What was your reaction when R'as appeared?
Wait, you thought it was better than BB & TDK?
Sorcerer
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I loved the Scarecrow scene. It actually was just Crane with no tricks and Murphy is such an amazing actor its great to see him no matter how small the part.
I thought it was a fun tease for a movie that will never actually happen.
I am downright SHOCKED though at how much of the very earliest of speculation and JOKES actually turned out true :lol
- Miranda being Talia Al Ghul
- JGL being Robin
First thing that was speculated and the first joke that caught on, and both end up being true :lol :lol :lol
They wanted to get Kyle in thereotherwise, I completely agree, and still would have preferred it.
FlashbladeGAF
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Zen_Arcade said:
Could have been left on the editing room floor to save time
Well, that's certainly a guess.
Bruce almost certainly left a way for Robin to contact him and probably meet him.
Auron_Kale
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I think you missed the part about whether or not it was better than BB, since he loves the focus on Bruce's arc and dislikes TDK for not focusing on it.
Could have been a backshot of Bruce and Selina's face.
BruceLeeRoy
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Seriously? Yes him disappearing into thin air= imagination
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