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[marc^o^]

"When they released the Wii a few years ago, I don't think developers--and Nintendo--anticipated how big it would become. I think this is going to be the case with the Wii U too," said Ubisoft's Brunier. "Touchscreen interfaces are so common to everyone right now, that having this as part of a gaming platform is really going to get Wii U further than Wii got."

Optimistic prediction for a change

http://www.fastcompany.com/3000097/nintendos-wii-u-gamepad-transforms-tablet

 

[Gannd]

No. Nintendo is doomed and will be producing iOS games for $1.99 within a year. Didn't they listen to pachter?

 

[shinobi602]

Hope it does.

Hope it keeps Nintendo alive for as long as possible, I'm all for more competition between companies. Let the creativity flow!

 

[theytookourjobz]

Get it further how? Sell more than the Wii?

 

[Dabanton]

We'll see if the screen will actually be used for more interesting things than just maps screens by devs after a couple of months.

FIFA13 is a good step.

 

[Kizer]

I actually do not like touch screens. I hate getting finger prints on my screen and all that. Unless they can find a way to let me use a stylus as effectively as me using my index finger, I really hope Ubisoft is wrong for this reason alone.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

Get it further how? Sell more than the Wii?

That's what I am wondering also. Maybe it will appeal to developers more or something along those lines? I highly doubt it will outsell the Wii, but you never know.

 

[marc^o^]

Millions of people bought a PS2 for the DVD player alone. It helped seal the deal. I believe the tablet is such a new killer feature.

 

[SmokedMeat]

I think touchscreen is great, but it's certainly not going to get them "further" than their introduction of motion controls. Touch screen is been there done that, and not something that's going to appeal to as broad of an audience.

But of course UBI Soft is going to say so considering they're a heavy U supporter.

What I DO think is going to be huge is that scanner/reader/whatever thing where you can stick a figurine or whatever on the controller, and it interacts with the game. I think that's going to be MASSIVE if Nintendo is smart enough to do a Skylanders inspired Pokemon title with figurines to purchase.

 

[StuBurns]

Millions of people bought a PS2 for the DVD player alone. It helped seal the deal. I believe the tablet is such a new killer feature.

I believe you are mistaken. The PS2 was a DVD player, this isn't a tablet computer, it's a controller that looks like one.

 

[Exterminieren]

As far as getting support from developers, I agree, but not because of the touchscreen. The fact that it's a standard controller does that.

 

[Pie and Beans]

Millions of people bought a PS2 for the DVD player alone. It helped seal the deal. I believe the tablet is such a new killer feature.

But its... not... a tablet. In any way.

I don't see WiiU getting anywhere near the Wii's success. It just doesnt have that new fresh easy experience for casuals and any "must have" appeal to it.

 

[Cipherr]

Get it further how? Sell more than the Wii?

They probably mean in terms of them selling more software on the console. I highly doubt the WiiU's total userbase sales mean much to them. How much software they can sell on it though does matter to them.

 

[marc^o^]

I believe you are mistaken. The PS2 was a DVD player, this isn't a tablet computer, it's a controller that looks like one.

It has tablet applications, Internet, youtube, instant messaging, videochat, panorama view, etc. And it's self evident there will be more than just those.

 

[Dystify]

Get it further how? Sell more than the Wii?

Probably means that he thinks the system will steadily sell for quite some time and have an active stream of games.

 

[RionaaM]

That's what I am wondering also. Maybe it will appeal to developers more or something along those lines? I highly doubt it will outsell the Wii, but you never know.

Yup, he's probably talking about third-party companies.

 

[Kacho]

If the new controller helps put Nintendo in a better position with developers and gamers, I'd be happy about that.

 

[Utako]

Rise to Super Heaven.

Followed by Heaven 64.

 

[KageMaru]

I wish the best for Nintendo, but I don't see this being the case at all. Motion controls were relatively new or fresh, which lead to everyone dreaming of the possibilities. A touchscreen isn't so new or fresh and is unlikely to appeal to the tablet market since they most likely own one by now.

Price and software will determine how well it does, not the control pad.

 

[speedpop]

I don't see WiiU getting anywhere near the Wii's success. It just doesnt have that new fresh easy experience for casuals and any "must have" appeal to it.

Just like when a majority of GAF predicted that the Wii would sell as well as it did.

 

[drspeedy]

Millions of people bought a PS2 for the DVD player alone. It helped seal the deal. I believe the tablet is such a new killer feature.

Killer how? DVD was something not everyone had, tochscreen devices and tablets are kinda already here...

 

[Koopakiller]

It has tablet applications, Internet, youtube, instant messaging, videochat, panorama view, etc. And it's self evident there will be more than just those.

that could be a big deal if it wasn't tethered to the console, pretty sure people value tablets for the on-the-go experience

 

[PdotMichael]

Ubisoft pushs the own Wii U lineup... that's not really thread worthy.

Just like when a majority of GAF predicted that the Wii would sell as well as it did.

That's an argument?

It has tablet applications, Internet, youtube, instant messaging, videochat, panorama view, etc. And it's self evident there will be more than just those.

I have like 5 devices with the same features here. And I'm not even a tech nerd. It's not dealbreaking anymore.

 

[Utako]

But its... not... a tablet. In any way.

Do you know what system we're talking about? Did you read the thread title?

 

[marc^o^]

Killer how? DVD was something not everyone had, tochscreen devices and tablets are kinda already here...

It's a new kind of tablet and from what I see on the market, it's far from being saturated. People are buying several of these, and lots on a yearly basis!

 

[11redder]

I actually do not like touch screens. I hate getting finger prints on my screen and all that. Unless they can find a way to let me use a stylus as effectively as me using my index finger, I really hope Ubisoft is wrong for this reason alone.

The Christopher Nolan method?

 

[KageMaru]

Just like when a majority of GAF predicted that the Wii would sell as well as it did.

There are some key differences between the Wii and Wii-U for both better and worse. I see the Wii-U enjoying stronger 3rd party support, but I still don't see it outselling the Wii because of the pad controller.

IIRC there was a lot more interest and excitement leading up to the Wii's launch than what we see now for the Wii-U's launch.

It's a new kind of tablet and from what I see on the market, it's far from being saturated. People are buying several of these, and lots on a yearly basis!

I think you may be missing the point. It's not a tablet at all, at least not in the traditional sense. So I'm not sure you can compare it to a real tablet that people can take wherever they go and still use all the features provided. That's pretty much the big draw about tablets and the Wii-U's pad lacks exactly that.

 

[PIMPBYBLUD]

It's not even multi touch though right?

 

[frankie_baby]

that could be a big deal if it wasn't tethered to the console, pretty sure people value tablets for the on-the-go experience

Pretty sure tonnes of other people's tablets never leave the house

 

[Pie and Beans]

It has tablet applications, Internet, youtube, instant messaging, videochat, panorama view, etc. And it's self evident there will be more than just those.

It's a new kind of tablet and from what I see on the market, it's far from being saturated. People are buying several of these, and lots on a yearly basis!

If by 'new kind of tablet' you mean one that isn't portable or multi-touch, I guess?

The bargain Android tablet of the hour is going to be able to do all that too and more, and still operate when out of the house probably for a cheaper price than the WiiU comes in at. This isn't like the PS2/DVD player situation where DVD players were super expensive for the time and thus the PS2 presented real value. Its so nowhere near anything like that you have to really fool yourself into thinking along those lines.

Just like when a majority of GAF predicted that the Wii would sell as well as it did.

The proof is in the pudding, and while GAF was quick to dismiss Wii on its lack of power, when grown men were running through E3 halls en masse, you could tell that motion controls had seized upon part of the human psyche and driven it wild with hype. That kind of reaction is nowhere to be found with the WiiU.

 

[D_prOdigy]

I actually do not like touch screens. I hate getting finger prints on my screen and all that. Unless they can find a way to let me use a stylus as effectively as me using my index finger, I really hope Ubisoft is wrong for this reason alone.

It sounds like you haven't experienced the advantages of a stylus-centic resistive touchscreen.

 

[Horse Armour]

It's a new kind of tablet and from what I see on the market, it's far from being saturated. People are buying several of these, and lots on a yearly basis!

It's not a tablet. You can't even leave the room with it!

 

[Vinci]

Based on what we've seen so far? It won't. It has potential to be huge, but nothing has really sealed the deal for that potential as of yet. A touchscreen is meaningless if it doesn't offer something truly meaningful to the audience beyond familiarity.

 

[Utako]

It's not a tablet. You can't even leave the room with it!

Even so, it's very clearly meant to be an iPad with buttons.

A shitty iPad with buttons.

 

[speedpop]

That's an argument?

More likely a statement. GAF users are hardly the paragons of righteousness and truth when it concerns the state (and future) of the industry they love.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Even so, it's very clearly meant to be an iPad with buttons.

A shitty iPad with buttons.

When was it "meant" to be like that?

I mean, it's more of a better DS than an iPad.

 

[StuBurns]

It sounds like you haven't experienced the advantages of a stylus-centic resistive touchscreen.

That's an advantage like the inability to walk means you can justify using a wheel chair is an advantage.

 

[Vinci]

It's not an iPad, you mooks. It's a controller.

 

[Majanew]

I doubt it'll sell as well as the Wii did. Wii U just doesn't seem to have the same excitement surrounding it that the Wii had from mainstream media.

 

[Giant Panda]

It isn't as fresh, so I doubt it will sell as much as the Wii.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

That's an advantage like the inability to walk means you can justify using a wheel chair is an advantage.

If a wheelchair offered greater accuracy and precision than legs and feet, you might have a point. How's your signature look fingerpainted?

 

[StuBurns]

If a wheelchair offered greater accuracy and precision than legs and feet, you might have a point. How's your signature look fingerpainted?

Not only do the DS/3DS screens not even begin to have the kind of sensitivity to allow the finesse required to recreate an ink written signature, they also don't allow for multitouch. It's a more precise, but it's less flexible, and it's less sensitive.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

There are some key differences between the Wii and Wii-U for both better and worse. I see the Wii-U enjoying stronger 3rd party support, but I still don't see it outselling the Wii because of the pad controller.

IIRC there was a lot more interest and excitement leading up to the Wii's launch than what we see now for the Wii-U's launch.

This is pretty much what I'm expecting, and it's similar to how I see 3DS going. Wii U could still outperform the competition, but outperforming Wii (at least upfront) seems like a very tall order.

 

[drspeedy]

I'll give ninty credit, they're at least courting third parties and showing signss of being plugged in to what sells (online and market TBD, that is). But I think we all secretly wanted to see more than a giant controller for DS-like applications.

That or, IMO, 3DS Inter-connectivity. You'd sell tens of thousands of 3DS's if they were WiiU controllers too.

Next hardware rev, amirite?

 

[marc^o^]

I think you may be missing the point. It's not a tablet at all, at least not in the traditional sense. So I'm not sure you can compare it to a real tablet that people can take wherever they go and still use all the features provided. That's pretty much the big draw about tablets and the Wii-U's pad lacks exactly that.

I think you are good at seeing what makes it limited compared to a traditional tablet, but bad at envisioning what makes it special and desirable compared to any other tablet.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

Not only do the DS/3DS screens not even begin to have the kind of sensitivity to allow the finesse required to recreate an ink written signature, they also don't allow for multitouch.

That's simply a resolution constraint, not one of the inherent technology. Who uses multitouch for their signature?

 

[Thrakier]

It could be if the concept was touchscreen only. With a traditional controler, no chance in hell.

 

[Pixel_boy]

I like the idea of the wii U should make it easy, To have more pick up and play its like have a DS in the room when you bord just pick it up and play for alittle

 

[Dabanton]

Millions of people bought a PS2 for the DVD player alone. It helped seal the deal. I believe the tablet is such a new killer feature.

Yeah that was when DVD was a relatively new thing are you seriously suggesting that the touchscreen on the Wii U pad is on that level?

Touchscreens have been around for years they are no longer an amazing thing imo.

 

[PdotMichael]

That's simply a resolution constraint, not one of the inherent technology. Who uses multitouch for their signature?

Why is this an important feature for a gaming device?

and multi-touch displays are good enough for these things.

More likely a statement. GAF users are hardly the paragons of righteousness and truth when it concerns the state (and future) of the industry they love.

I didn't know that neoGaf has a hivemind.