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Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition |OT| Durante Does In 23 Minutes What From Can't

Ok guys just finished Blighttown.

Where to next? Do I go to Demon Ruins, Andor Lando, or back to the Undead Parish for the fortress that just opened up (assuming its Sen's Fortress since I've heard people talk about it).
Sen's Fortress.

Feel free to explore, though.
 

Razek

Banned
Try cutting the first gargoyle tail before the second gargoyle shows up. When you cut it the gargoyle does nothing allowing you to dish lots of damage. Thats how I got past them.

I did the first time by complete luck. It helps but like I said, the moment that 'event' happens it's game over. I think I'm just going to have to get a bit stronger. I kinda wish you could respec. I would have rather put 10 levels into health rather than stamina.
 

TheUsual

Gold Member
Enjoying the game so far and I definitely need to work on my parrying skills. Just need to time the blocks correctly.

Can I sell extra items? I found a dead guy selling items (forgot where, but he made reference to a Yulia (i think) when I bought nothing), but I couldn't tell if I could sell my stuff to him. I found an item called "Rubbish". Should I get rid off it or hold on?
 

Grief.exe

Member
I did the first time by complete luck. It helps but like I said, the moment that 'event' happens it's game over. I think I'm just going to have to get a bit stronger. I kinda wish you could respec. I would have rather put 10 levels into health rather than stamina.

What I did was cut off the first ones tail, then just before I hit 50% I would use pine resin.

He is weak to lightning damage and I would make short work of him before the second one even showed up.

Then you just have to dodge to the side or back up when he uses his flame breath.
 

Orayn

Member
...there's an actual Tarkus in this game?!

Emerson,_Lake_&_Palmer_-_Tarkus_(1971)_front_cover.jpg


What other delightfully bizarre creatures from 70s prog rock concept albums also exist?

It's actually just a knight, possibly a shout-out to JoJo's Bizzare Adventure also having a knight named Tarkus. (JJBA names a lot of characters after music, especially prog rock.)
 

Razek

Banned
What I did was cut off the first ones tail, then just before I hit 50% I would use pine resin.

He is weak to lightning damage and I would make short work of him before the second one even showed up.

Then you just have to dodge to the side or back up when he uses his flame breath.

Dang, I don't have any. I think I have idea by the name of where I could get some though.

Edit: As a side note, chopping
off the tail actually doesn't do anything health wise. I think it just disarms him. I don't notice any health going down.
 
Enjoying the game so far and I definitely need to work on my parrying skills. Just need to time the blocks correctly.

Can I sell extra items? I found a dead guy selling items (forgot where, but he made reference to a Yulia (i think) when I bought nothing), but I couldn't tell if I could sell my stuff to him. I found an item called "Rubbish". Should I get rid off it or hold on?

You probably just mistyped but just to make sure, parrying has nothing to do with blocking. You press the "parry" button (LT on controller) and then quickly follow it up with quick attack (RB). It's extremely fun to see the different weapon's parry attacks. The bat is brutal.
 

ixix

Exists in a perpetual state of Quantum Crotch Uncertainty.
Hmm... if you are
hitting the tail that many times and to the extent that you do enough overall damage to nearly kill him outright, maybe it in fact can't come off.

But yeah, maybe you just have to hit it in a certain spot, which is probably going to be rough to do. This guy sounds pretty nasty; Seath was fairly slow-moving.
It'll be interesting to see what comes out of it, if anything. :p

Either way, it's fun to challenge yourself with off-kilter things in a game like this. I'm personally trying to basically go through the game backwards this time around, tackling the higher-level bosses and areas early.

I actually just had a bit of a breakthrough.
I figured out how to summon the phantom. I no longer need to co-op with people to have a go at his tail, I can just let the AI tank for me and unload on it. The speed at which I can retry just improved by an order of magnitude.

Check for illusory walls in the new content, peeps. No foolin'.
 

Visceir

Member
All this weapon talk...I thought I would be going for a DEX build and am currently using a +7 Iaito.

I'm still fairly confused by the upgrade system. I can either pick making the weapon elemental and upgrading it from +5 onwards or continue doing regular upgrades and get it to +8, +9 and so on, correct? How do I know which is better -- making the weapon elemental or continuing doing the regular upgrades?

I just defeated Queelag and need to figure out where I'm going next now...probably finish up the Garden part.


So what is the best way to get back from Blighttown to Firelink Shrine?

Dunno if there are any better ways but you can make your way up those elevator platforms and ladders and find a key in one of the chests, if you keep on going that way you will end up in Drake valley and from there you can take the elevator up to Firelink Shrine. It doesn't take me long at all to do it now that I know the way and am familiar with it...you can also get crimson armor on your way there and a flask upgrade item.
 

ArynCrinn

Banned
Also helpful:
they are incredibly weak against lightning, to the point where you can easily kill the first gargoyle even before the second one lands on the roof. I can't remember where exactly, but one of the corpses you come across in the Undead Burg has 3 things of Yellow Pine Resin that can temporarily give your weapon lightning properties. One application should last you the length of the fight easily.

Yeah, the Gold Pine Resin can be found in the Burg right before the first Black Knight, but you'll need either the Master Key or the Residence Key (from the first merchant) to access the house.
 
So what is the best way to get back from Blighttown to Firelink Shrine?
The dreaded elevator.

Make sure you ring the 2nd bell, then rest at the bonfire of the fair lady. Then back to the swamp bonfire. Leaving the swamp bonfire, turn right and you will see some scaffolding. Progress up that untill you reach an exit.
 

ArynCrinn

Banned
All this weapon talk...I thought I would be going for a DEX build and am currently using a +7 Iaito.

I'm still fairly confused by the upgrade system. I can either pick making the weapon elemental and upgrading it from +5 onwards or continue doing regular upgrades and get it to +8, +9 and so on, correct? How do I know which is better -- making the weapon elemental or continuing doing the regular upgrades?

I just defeated Queelag and need to figure out where I'm going next now...probably finish up the Garden part.

Elementals are:

Lightning = +10 @ Giant Blacksmith
Fire or Chaos = +5 @ Catacombs Blacksmith
Divine = +5 @ Burg Blacksmith
Crystal = +10 @ Giant Blacksmith

Can't remember the others, somebody help me out. But the magic, enchanted upgrades are done by the blacksmith in New Londo. Occult is done by Andre in the Burg.

Take it all the way to +15 for maximum stat scaling and buffs, this can be preferable for Faith/Magic buffs and builds. Same goes for shield and bow upgrading of course, but as a rule I'd recommend always a standard upgrade path for shields.
 

Ridley327

Member
It's actually just a knight, possibly a shout-out to JoJo's Bizzare Adventure also having a knight named Tarkus. (JJBA names a lot of characters after music, especially prog rock.)

Ahh, you crushed my hopes and dreams. :(

Maybe they'll get around to putting an actual Tarkus in Dark Souls 2!
 

ezekial45

Banned
I forget, is there a particular stat that allows for better use of the greatswords? I'm using the Black Knight Sword currently for one of my characters and I wish I could do better with them. He does a one handed sweep attack with the sword, but it's slow.

Can boosting strength, endurance or dexterity make it better?
 

perorist

Unconfirmed Member
I forget, is there a particular stat that allows for better use of the greatswords? I'm using the Black Knight Sword currently for one of my characters and I wish I could do better with them. He does a one handed sweep attack with the sword, but it's slow.

Can boosting strength, endurance or dexterity make it better?
Nothing will improve the speed/animation

Improving endurance enough will give you more swings obviously but not much you can do beyond that
 
I can't believe you guys can play this on console anymore after seeing how smooth the game runs and the high fidelity of the pc version.

Not only for the other reasons of either not having a PC or not having a good enough PC there is also the ratio of cheaters. PC is a more open platform and as such the online community will get hit with a huge wave of cheaters. Especially once people start using the Arena more. While they do exist on the 360, there will be no where near as many as it isn't as accessible as just downloading a program and hitting a couple buttons.
 

Grief.exe

Member
Not only for the other reasons of either not having a PC or not having a good enough PC there is also the ratio of cheaters. PC is a more open platform and as such the online community will get hit with a huge wave of cheaters. Especially once people start using the Arena more. While they do exist on the 360, there will be no where near as many as it isn't as accessible as just downloading a program and hitting a couple buttons.

I'm assuming cheating will die down pretty fast, generally people who play like that lose interest much more quickly then someone who doesn't take shortcuts.
 

Razek

Banned
Well, I think I'm giving it up for the day. I realize now it would have been better to just pour all my souls into health since that was the limiting factor here. I keep getting two shotted by all the big guys and they never give you a window to heal during battle so blowing points to increase my healing pool was a waste of time. Thing is, I am never going to get lucky and get that spear drop again.

Question: Is there any spear I can get earlier than the winged spear in the undead parish?
 

Ridley327

Member
Well, I think I'm giving it up for the day. I realize now it would have been better to just pour all my souls into health since that was the limiting factor here. I keep getting two shotted by all the big guys and they never give you a window to heal during battle so blowing points to increase my healing pool was a waste of time. Thing is, I am never going to get lucky and get that spear drop again.

Question: Is there any spear I can get earlier than the winged spear in the undead parish?

The undead spearmen can drop their spears, among the other normal undead drops. They're just regular spears, though, so nothing fancy about them.
 

ArynCrinn

Banned
Well, I think I'm giving it up for the day. I realize now it would have been better to just pour all my souls into health since that was the limiting factor here. I keep getting two shotted by all the big guys and they never give you a window to heal during battle so blowing points to increase my healing pool was a waste of time. Thing is, I am never going to get lucky and get that spear drop again.

Question: Is there any spear I can get earlier than the winged spear in the undead parish?

Big guys? The Winged Spear is one of the better spears in the game, just upgrade it. At +5 or higher and some skill it should be no problem using it. Only other good spear you can get early is probably the Pike from the blacksmith in the burg.
 
I could use some help on the Gaping Dragon if anybody is around. I have thrown a summon sign down right infront of the stairs leading to it in The Depths but nobody seems to be hanging around that area.
 

Zaventem

Member
ixix i don't think
his tail can drop a weapon or be cut.Try a few more times to be sure.I mean that's what i would do but looking at streams i'm like 50% sure it can't cut off.. 50% because they didn't take to long trying it in streams.
 

Razek

Banned
The undead spearmen can drop their spears, among the other normal undead drops. They're just regular spears, though, so nothing fancy about them.

Big guys? The Winged Spear is one of the better spears in the game, just upgrade it. At +5 or higher and some skill it should be no problem using it. Only other good spear you can get early is probably the Pike from the blacksmith in the burg.

The requirements were higher for a whopping extra 6 damage which I'd have to waste levels on. I assume though it must get strong faster than the regular spear by upgrading? My +5 spear did 128 which seemed pretty pathetic. I quickly loaded up the game and the pike requires 25 strength. No way am I using my first 15 levels on that! Guess I'll give the winged one a try.
 

Zeliard

Member
ixix i don't think
his tail can drop a weapon or be cut.Try a few more times to be sure.I mean that's what i would do but looking at streams i'm like 50% sure it can't cut off.. 50% because they didn't take to long trying it in streams.

ixix won't let anything stop him short of the game popping up a message that says
"Look, dude, the tail can't be removed. Leave the poor guy's tail alone for the love of all that is holy."

And I'm the same way. :p We share a similar stubbornness with these games.
 

ixix

Exists in a perpetual state of Quantum Crotch Uncertainty.
ixix i don't think
his tail can drop a weapon or be cut.Try a few more times to be sure.I mean that's what i would do but looking at streams i'm like 50% sure it can't cut off.. 50% because they didn't take to long trying it in streams.

If I claimed I hadn't wondered about this myself I'd be lying. The tail makes the critical hit sound and the critical spark pops up when you hit it, though.

I'm going to dedicate a few hours tonight to working at it now that I've got an efficient method of retrying worked out. If I still can't pull it off I'm just going to take out my frustrations on him in an orgy of abject, indifferent brutality and damn the tail.

It's actually just a knight, possibly a shout-out to JoJo's Bizzare Adventure also having a knight named Tarkus. (JJBA names a lot of characters after music, especially prog rock.)

This actually just explained something I'd wondered about for a long time. I knew that the AI phantoms were pop culture references, and I knew about the album and about how it was apparently weirdly popular in Japan, but it still seemed like a stretch.

It being a JoJo's Bizarre Adventure reference actually makes a lot more sense alongside the World of Warcraft and anime references.

ixix won't let anything stop him short of the game popping up a message that says
"Look, dude, the tail can't be removed. Leave the poor guy's tail alone for the love of all that is holy."

And I'm the same way. :p We share a similar stubbornness with these games.

Pretty much, yeah. If I can't get it off while taking off his entire lifebar with nothing but tail hits I will give up, but no sooner.
 

Hypron

Member
Pretty much, yeah. If I can't get it off while taking off his entire lifebar with nothing but tail hits I will give up, but no sooner.

I've been trying to do that for the past few hours, I got pretty close to killing him that way but it still didn't come off...
 

Grief.exe

Member
I could use some help on the Gaping Dragon if anybody is around. I have thrown a summon sign down right infront of the stairs leading to it in The Depths but nobody seems to be hanging around that area.

Its a pretty easy fight actually, just a war of attrition.

Lautrec and Solaire are right outside to summon as well.
 

RionaaM

Unconfirmed Member
SPOILERS BEWARE! (spoilered by request)


Wow, so I was exploring some place with towers, and came upon a message left by a user, saying something like "nice ring ahead". The entrance was guarded by some enemy, and as I approached him, I noticed he looked much stronger than the regular undeads. Obviously he ended up killing me, and I really wish to say I put up a good fight, but that would be lying!

After recovering my body I thought "OK, I'll deal with him later" and took another path. Got crushed by a flaming barrel (luckily it only took half my health) and attacked by a couple of archers. Then, as I was walking through a narrow bridge and enjoying the scenery, a Taurus Demon came out of nowhere right in front of me. I watched in horror as he ran at me, and moped the floor with my knight while I helplessly tried to defend myself.

The game is seriously hard, but addictive at the same time (I need a new rig though, as with Durante's 0.4 patch I get a low framerate, even with the game's default DoF). I'll get you next time, stupid beast!
 

joe2187

Banned
Thats not really spoilers, that's just the introductory level Rionaa, You've got a long way to go. ;)


Anyway, i'm calling it a night...joining in some Jolly co-op and made it to Anor Lando, I've beat the game already 3 times on console, I have yet to grow tired of anything in this game, cant wait to play my favorite area on the game tomorrow, The Painted World!
 

ixix

Exists in a perpetual state of Quantum Crotch Uncertainty.
I've been trying to do that for the past few hours, I got pretty close to killing him that way but it still didn't come off...

I actually just had my single best run. Probably about 90% of his lifebar removed hitting his tail. Unless there's some magical sweet spot I'm missing, I don't think it comes off.

I don't really think I can improve on that short of just up and killing him with tail blows. It might be time for me to annihilate him in a glorious cascade of cathartic, unrefined violence and move on.
 

antitrop

Member
I could use some help on the Gaping Dragon if anybody is around. I have thrown a summon sign down right infront of the stairs leading to it in The Depths but nobody seems to be hanging around that area.
Summoning both helpers I was able to kill the Dragon on my first try. It makes the fight the easiest boss I've come across yet. Just attack the behind. Both of the helpers died while the Dragon was about 1/4 HP but I was able to finish it off myself.
 
Is there a way to kill the Gargoyles alone? Seriously. I had to use the summon sign to finally get through that area. An awesome dude just like the one that says "Praise the Sun" helped me destroy them. It felt like cheating though.

After that I went back to the beginning area to kill the Black Knight. Got confident and tried to also kill the one in the tower and got my ass handed to me. At that point I was considering leaving some humanity and souls there, but I took a risk and went back. My heart was racing when I barely made it out alive with my stuff back again.
 

Mupod

Member
Man, I never regretted my choice of builds until I got to Bulk and Skull. That piddly little lightning spear +3 just is not doing it anymore.

Also quite depressing when I get invaded because everybody has more health and does many times my damage. THREE TIMES I finally managed to get a friendly phantom summoned for Penn and Teller only to have somebody run in and two shot me with god-knows-what before I could even fight back. Doesn't help that 99% of my summons seem to fail.

But soon...SOON my dex/faith setup will fall into place and those points I spent will mean something. Thinking I'll make a Furysword just to tide me over because I need some more stuff to get my balder sword to +15...and I don't have my darkmoon blade/sunlight blade for it yet anyways.
 

Hypron

Member
I actually just had my single best run. Probably about 90% of his lifebar removed hitting his tail. Unless there's some magical sweet spot I'm missing, I don't think it comes off.

I don't really think I can improve on that short of just up and killing him with tail blows. It might be time for me to annihilate him in a glorious cascade of cathartic, unrefined violence and move on.

Yeah I'm getting at that point as well. I know all his patterns by heart, I could probably obliterate him if I were to fight him for real.

Maybe his tail needs to take a certain amount of damages in a certain time? I do shit all damage (around 200 per heavy hit...) so I can't really put that theory to the test.
 
Ok, I just had a messed up glitch when I was fighting Havel. I was circling him and attacking and all was well, until all of a sudden he disappeared. It was like he was still taking physical space but I could not attack him.. I went back and tried to reset it at a bonfire hoping that it would reset him, but alas nothing. I tried quitting the game and going back but no luck...

Suddenly in the tower I was swinging around like mad and I got 3000 souls... but no ring or drops whatsoever...

anyone else have this glitch happen to them, and am I shit out of luck?
 

RionaaM

Unconfirmed Member
I can't beat him... Taurus Demon is too hard for me. And the sad thing is I have to choose between killing him or losing 4000 souls, because once I cross the white fog, it won't let me go back, and I need to cross if I want to recover my body.

I really suck at the game, I don't know how everyone else manages to get good at it. Won't stop playing, but I'm sure I'll never kill him.
 
I can't beat him... Taurus Demon is too hard for me. And the sad thing is I have to choose between killing him or losing 4000 souls, because once I cross the white fog, it won't let me go back, and I need to cross if I want to recover my body.

I really suck at the game, I don't know how everyone else manages to get good at it. Won't stop playing, but I'm sure I'll never kill him.

You want a hint?
 

antitrop

Member
I can't beat him... Taurus Demon is too hard for me. And the sad thing is I have to choose between killing him or losing 4000 souls, because once I cross the white fog, it won't let me go back, and I need to cross if I want to recover my body.
Hint for Taurus Demon:
As soon as the Taurus appears, turn 180 and run towards the entrance, right next to it is a ladder that will take you to the top of the tower. From there you can use your drop attack on him with little risk. Makes the fight a hell of a lot easier.
 

RionaaM

Unconfirmed Member
Hint for Taurus Demon:
As soon as the Taurus appears, turn 180 and run towards the entrance, right next to it is a ladder that will take you to the top of the tower. From there you can use your drop attack on him with little risk. Makes the fight a hell of a lot easier.
The drop attack is the same as the jumping slash? (forward + RT on the 360 gamepad). I actually climbed to the top of the tower to see if he would leave me alone, but the bastard jumped there and still kicked my ass. The main problem I have is once he throws me to the ground, I don't have time to get up before he strikes me again. And I can't get close and hit him, he always hits me first.
 

perorist

Unconfirmed Member
The drop attack is the same as the jumping slash? (forward + RT on the 360 gamepad). I actually climbed to the top of the tower to see if he would leave me alone, but the bastard jumped there and still kicked my ass. The main problem I have is once he throws me to the ground, I don't have time to get up before he strikes me again. And I can't get close and hit him, he always hits me first.
It's a different attack, just drop off the edge and hit R1 as you're falling

After that hits him, roll through/past his legs and repeat
 
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