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[Absolute Bastard]

This whole thing has to be viral marketing, I don't see how a professional marketing team would miss something as huge and obvious as that van reflection. The video didn't just come from nowhere, a bunch of professionals spend some time putting it together and they must have looked at the backgrounds and seen the window. More likely the trailer with the window was placed there to make the reflection on purpose.

The photo of the shoot on the street is also odd. It's supposedly taken by a random passer by, but the camera used is really good. Who the hell carries something that good around in the middle of the night for no reason? Also the crew seems to pay no attention to this stranger taking photos of their shoot.

Also it only took two days for independent third parties to provide comparisons to prove the superiority of the camera in 920, pretty damn fast I'd say.

It kind of seems like Nokia kicked up a shitstorm on purpose to get attention because they knew they could prove their claims.

 

[thirty]

that would be some damn great marketing if nokia released a recreation vid using the 920 and it produced similar results.

 

[Marty Chinn]

So the Verge posted an actual set of photos they took to compare the cameras on various phones and I must say that the 920 is freaking incredible (despite nokia's marketing to make it seem otherwise)

Galaxy S3:


Iphone 4S:


Lumia 920:


Goddamn

How come you're ignoring the Galaxy S3's night mode? It seems less blurred than the 920 and similar in brightness.

 

[f0lken]

How come you're ignoring the Galaxy S3's night mode? It seems less blurred than the 920 and similar in brightness.

LOL no, the white balance is so off in the GS3, and it is clearly a lot blurrier, not to mention that it miss a lot of details like the bushes on the left side


920

GS3

 

[Anton Sugar]

How come you're ignoring the Galaxy S3's night mode? It seems less blurred than the 920 and similar in brightness.

GS3 nightmode:

920:

GS3 comes close but doesn't have the range that the 920 does.

EDIT: Beaten.

 

[Divvy]

How come you're ignoring the Galaxy S3's night mode? It seems less blurred than the 920 and similar in brightness.

Because when I posted the pictures, the article didn't have the S3 night pictures in an easily rippable format. They've since added them.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

that 920 looks fantastic. almost worth buying for the image stabilization alone.

two vases? one displayed above the hole and one hidden inside the hole?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFhhBJ1URCg

edit: wait nvm I misread your earlier posts. I sure hope someone reliable gets their hands on the phone and gives us samples as a result of this PR mess,

yea, if the i5 doesn't impress me, I might have to get one of these. so nice.

 

[Funky Papa]

How come you're ignoring the Galaxy S3's night mode? It seems less blurred than the 920 and similar in brightness.

What?

920 on top, SGS3 at the bottom.

 

[Flo_Evans]

quite a bit of warping as expected. meh

this...

If it was true optical it wouldn't do this right? Looks like software image stabilization to me.

The main subject is stable but the way they stretch and distort the background reminds me of a bad acid trip.

 

[tino]

this...

If it was true optical it wouldn't do this right? Looks like software image stabilization to me.

The main subject is stable but the way they stretch and distort the background reminds me of a bad acid trip.

Look like very long exposure time (for example 1/4 to 1/2 second) to me.

I would like to see the exposure value of both photos.

 

[Sean]

Is it just me or is there some image distortion on this 920 pic? Towards the bottom left I notice a sort of 'line' going through the tree bark (kinda like screen tearing in video games).

Though the 920 camera looks better to me overall.

 

[Marty Chinn]

What?

920 on top, SGS3 at the bottom.

I was using this picture as a reference to it being more blurry.

GS3 comes close but doesn't have the range that the 920 does.

EDIT: Beaten.

By similar I meant close, not as good or better. See the picture above. It's certainly not the night and day comparison that earlier shots were showing. It just seems like the Nokia has an auto night mode where as the others you have to turn them on. Not saying the Nokia isn't better overall, but it's not the huge win that it looked like earlier.

 

[-GOUKI-]

Lol this has been done on dslrs forever. My old Nikon D40 can do this.

 

[venne]

Lol this has been done on dslrs forever. My old Nikon D40 can do this.

How's its reception?

 

[The Faceless Master]

Lol this has been done on dslrs forever. My old Nikon D40 can do this.

how's facebook on that?

 

[Biggzy]

Lol this has been done on dslrs forever. My old Nikon D40 can do this.

Can you carry it in your pocket?

 

[brotkasten]

Lol this has been done on dslrs forever. My old Nikon D40 can do this.

How's the browser?

 

[CrunchinJelly]

The actual image quality of the 920 pics isn't that great.

 

[Fuu]

How's its reception?

how's facebook on that?

Can you carry it in your pocket?

How's the browser?

:lol

 

[rozay]

^utterly destroyed hahahaha

so you guys think this is using one of the sony 8MP sensors?

 

[Slayer-33]

:lol

lmfao

 

[JaggedSac]

^utterly destroyed hahahaha

so you guys think this is using one of the sony 8MP sensors?

8.7MP sensors

 

[kehs]

gouki pls

 

[Valkyr Junkie]

this...

If it was true optical it wouldn't do this right? Looks like software image stabilization to me.

The main subject is stable but the way they stretch and distort the background reminds me of a bad acid trip.

The video they released of the person walking by the water towards the woman showed a whole lot of distortion that would not be present on a purely optical-based stabilization system. They're definitely using software as well.

 

[lastflowers]

Apparently the software on the OIS isn't finished either, which will hopefully help some of the blurriness.

 

[hylje]

Helsingin Sanomat -newspaper interviewed Nokia worker, who wants to remain anonymous, believes management was not aware about ad for PureView OIS not being done with Lumia. Because by him/her there is very heated aftermath within the company.
I'm sure there will be people questioning if it was done on purpose. Any publicity, is good publicity.

 

[GCX]

Here's the news mentioned above:

EMPLOYEE SOURCE: Nokia's management didn't know the technical details of the promo video

Nokia's management seems to have been unaware of the fact that the stirring promotional video wasn't shot with the Lumia 920 phone. A Nokia employee interviewed by HS believes so but he/she wants to stay anonymous because the aftermath at Nokia is currently so hot.

Nokia was forced to apologize on Thursday when technology sites found out that the video revealed after Nokia's phone announcements on Wednesday wasn't shot with the new phone, as opposed to the context could be inferred.

The anonymous employee source tells that the company is running "a relatively harsh clearance" in an attempt to find out what happened and to ensure that similar incidents won't happen again. According to the source, clearing requirements came directly from the CEO Stephen Elop.

If HS' sources are believed, the promotional video was produced by a Finnish production company Kennel Helsinki. Kennel Helsinki producer Katja Jokinen does not deny or confirm the information and says that only Nokia can comment on the matter

Nokia's communication department tells that they don't reveal their partners.

According to the interviewed Nokia employee it is clear, however, that the buyer Nokia is responsible for the content of the video and the method of implementation.

The employee wanted to talk to HS because he/she wanted to bring up how hard the stir around the video is for the Nokia employees.

"We are already behind the competition on the market, even if the products are actually good. Then the launch is perished under such stupidity."

The video introduced Nokia's OIS image stabilization technology. The anonymous Nokia source believes that technology is a "truly staggering", and the company should urgently introduce how it works on the phone.

Source (Finnish)

 

[Cipherr]

"We are behind the competition on the market, even if the products are actually good. Then the launch is perished under such stupidity."

That part in particular is why I felt so bad for Nokia. Tech blogs tripping all over themselves to report the news that the ads didn't have a disclaimer, and thus misled..... But it takes a day or two for ANYONE to run a story about Amazon forcibly shoving ads down your fucking throat on the new Kindle HD Tablets and conveniently not mentioning that during the conference. In fact I still see no story on this on the Verge, and this is clearly something a lot of people would probably want to know about.

 

[rozay]

8.7MP sensors

You are correct it's custom and not necessarily the sony one people were speculating, though interestingly enough the resulting images will still be 8MP (7.1MP if you take a 16:9 shot).

 

[tino]

You are correct it's custom and not necessarily the sony one people were speculating, though interestingly enough the resulting images will still be 8MP (7.1MP if you take a 16:9 shot).

You will never find out who makes the sensor in this business unless Nokia cone out and tell you. There is no way to tell whether Sony or Nikon make the sensors for some of the Nikon models until some semi blog put the sensors under the microscope.

Although who makes the sensor in this case is irrelevant. Its not a cutting edge sensor. The hybrid optical/digital shake reduction is more interesting than the hardware.

 

[kehs]

You will never find out who makes the sensor in this business unless Nokia cone out and tell you. There is no way to tell whether Sony or Nikon make the sensors for some of the Nikon models until some semi blog put the sensors under the microscope.

Although who makes the sensor in this case is irrelevant. Its not a cutting edge sensor. The hybrid optical/digital shake reduction is more interesting than the hardware.

I would say that getting an entire van/cameramen into a smartphone is pretty cutting edge.

 

[Radec]

Im more curious on the sensor that the van guy had.

 

[Damon Bennet]

finally rich recording <3

random "oh i have an idea for a song"-recordings are now actually listenable

 

[-MB-]

this proves nothing. Show me the angles!

Already see a sharp angle on her knee.

 

[flippedb]

Are there any shots of Lumia's night mode?

 

[phosphor112]

Bump, here is a video showing that OIS promo video. At one point you can clearly see a professional cameraman in the reflection.

Advert fail.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b00_1347136810

 

[Radec]

^
you're like 5 pages late bro.

Are there any shots of Lumia's night mode?

I want to see a low light shot without any use of flash. Even if its out of focus.

 

[Milchjon]

Bump, here is a video showing that OIS promo video. At one point you can clearly see a professional cameraman in the reflection.

Advert fail.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b00_1347136810

That was covered on the same day. Nokia already apologized

 

[phosphor112]

That was covered on the same day. Nokia already apologized

Lol, damn. People are quick to notice these things.

 

[brotkasten]

New impressions from Photokina.

Nokia Lumia 920 makes PureView appearance at Photokina with anti-shake video demo (video)

Company reps were on hand at the Carl Zeiss booth at Photokina demonstrating this latest handset's low-light abilities -- which are quite striking. Just as impressive, however, is the device's heralded stabilization feature, which captures an impressively smooth clip even with exaggerated hand shake. Considering the degree to which the Nokia rep was shaking, users with steadier hands shouldn't have any issue capturing excellent quality video. We were unable to view the clip on a computer, so our impressions are only based on what we saw on the LCD, but the feature was impressive nonetheless. We'll of course need to reserve formal judgement until we can conduct our own tests, but this PureView preview was certainly convincing, and quite encouraging -- especially the side-by-side clip comparing the 920 to a "US-based manufacturer's" smartphone.

Video: http://www.viddler.com/v/5135ac77?secret=32717011

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/19/nokia-lumia-920-image-stabilization-demo/

 

[The Faceless Master]

New impressions from Photokina.

Nokia Lumia 920 makes PureView appearance at Photokina with anti-shake video demo (video)

Video: http://www.viddler.com/v/5135ac77?secret=32717011

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/19/nokia-lumia-920-image-stabilization-demo/

nice! the panning on the playback of the video he redorded was buttery!