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Summer 2012 Anime |OT3| Where All the Waifus Are Made Up and the Points Don't Matter

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cajunator

Banned
Nozomi: still the classiest anime publisher.

Now give me Oniisama e and I'll be your fanboy for life.

Nozomi/Rightstuf also licensed Piano and The Third, both of which I have enjoyed.
they seem to license shows that you wouldn't think would sell well, but probably end up doing ok because they have a captive market that they advertise constantly to.
 

Jex

Member
Mobile Suit Gundam 08th MS Team 10

Did I mention how great that fight was? It was excellent. It gives a great sense of where Shiro actually falls in the grand pecking order of the war, without diminishing our appreciation for his skill.

It's also pretty neat in that
both characters achieved satisfactory results based on their skill level
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Jex

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Maybe it's really, really helping boost the manga's sales? I can't think of any other reason to go ahead with such a decision.
 

Jex

Member
You may take issue with it, but you haven't actually provided an effective counterargument. You may point to the stress caused by the snake thing below where the stick is hitting, but it's below where the stick is hitting. The structural soundness of a stone/masonry smokestack still doesn't correspond to being able to be smashed and then felled by a wooden stick instead of primarily being sheared off with the breakage point being where the snake is crushing. The force of the stick on the smokestack is supposed to equal the force of the smokestack on the stick, except here you're suggesting that the internal structure of the wooden stick is capable of providing this force better than the smokestack which is clearly collapsed from the collision. The stick, on the other hand, is not deformed. Not to mention that it's being torqued to produce this collision so even if it were capable of hitting head on, the shaft has to endure being bent between where it's being held and where it's colliding with the smokestack. Not one crack or splinter is produced.

Look, it's bullshit. There's no need to pretend otherwise.

I was just seeing to point out that, contrary to how you were presenting it, it's not like he chopped his way through a completely healthy tower with his stick. As you can see from this shot:

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the snake that's coiled around the smokestack has already inflicted damage on the structure, he then runs down the snake's body and attacks the area that's already been crushed by the snake. It still doesn't make a lick of physical sense but it's not quite as awful as it appears.

Not that it would really matter either way in an action show because anime works spend a fair amount of time completely ignoring physics. However in a show that's supposed to be grounded it's not really excusable.
 

cajunator

Banned
I was just seeing to point out that, contrary to how you were presenting it, it's not like he chopped his way through a completely healthy tower with his stick. As you can see from this shot:

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the snake that's coiled around the smokestack has already inflicted damage on the structure, he then runs down the snake's body and attacks the area that's already been crushed by the snake. It still doesn't make a lick of physical sense but it's not quite as awful as it appears.

Not that it would really matter either way in an action show because anime works spend a fair amount of time completely ignoring physics. However in a show that's supposed to be grounded it's not really excusable.

See I dont understand why people say this about NTHT. Its not grounded. There is a flying battleship in it. There is a magical girl who produces water. Its a bit of sci fi fantasy that just happens to have realistic themes, but its still high fantasy.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
So weird that Rose of Versailles was their announcement.

It kind of makes sense that they have both a "premium" and "budget" line though. They can probably get away with selling newer, niche shows for cheap but they probably do need to charge a decent amount of money for this set.

I still wish it was either Wandering Son or an announcement that they were going to blu-ray though. :p
 

Jex

Member
All this Asuna hate makes me sad. Anyway I like her as a character because she's so bland and generic. Sometimes getting away from unique is good for me and it's interesting for me to see that archetype. Having said that the other characters don't really seem all that interesting because they only had one episode to see their characteristics whereas Asuna has had more.


Eh, people have said stranger things. Not that much stranger, but still. I can't support someone supporting bland writing though.
 

OceanBlue

Member
Maybe it's really, really helping boost the manga's sales? I can't think of any other reason to go ahead with such a decision.

I think Chihayafuru is pretty high on the manga sales list, if what I remember from one of ANN's articles is correct. I don't know if the manga was always doing well or if the anime really helped boost sales though.
 

BluWacky

Member
You guys are talking about SAO AGAIN?

If "talking about SAO" means "posting the words Asuna and Lisbeth in various configurations of sound and fury" then yes, that does appear to be the case.

Yes, I mean the Shakespeare reference.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
I was just seeing to point out that, contrary to how you were presenting it, it's not like he chopped his way through a completely healthy tower with his stick. As you can see from this shot:

pipe.png


the snake that's coiled around the smokestack has already inflicted damage on the structure, he then runs down the snake's body and attacks the area that's already been crushed by the snake. It still doesn't make a lick of physical sense but it's not quite as awful as it appears.

Not that it would really matter either way in an action show because anime works spend a fair amount of time completely ignoring physics. However in a show that's supposed to be grounded it's not really excusable.
Eh, point taken but it's not like this example alone is what soured me to the show. NTHT tries to engage in serious drama, but features a protagonist and antagonist where even the physics presented in the show do not apply. Everyone else has to undergo hell, but they're above that. Why? Because script. That's why I started calling them Neo and Smith.

It's a blatant disregard for consistency and it undermines everything the show tries to do. What would otherwise be complications in the storyline become transparent contrivance.
 

Jex

Member
I'm sorry to be spoiling everyone's cynicism. I'll come back later.
It's not simply cynicism, it's my experience with the original series. It's pretty hard not to notice that the series experiences a drop in visual quality half-way through (despite the presence of a complete filler episode) which doesn't really make me particularly optimistic about how good a new series is going to look irrespective of the sales of the show.

Of course, some shows have managed to look dramatically worse in their second season despite having a strong first season. Case in point: Gunslinger Girls.
 
Save your indignance for something that isn't a throwaway statement clearly meant as a joke.

I'm not trying to be indignant. I'm just personally not in the mood for this sort of thing right now. I apologize; I shouldn't have made that statement and I don't want to ruin anyone else's fun. Please, don't mind me.
 

Jex

Member
Eh, point taken but it's not like this example alone is what soured me to the show. NTHT tries to engage in serious drama, but features a protagonist and antagonist where even the physics presented in the show do not apply. Everyone else has to undergo hell, but they're above that. Why? Because script. That's why I started calling them Neo and Smith.

It's a blatant disregard for consistency and it undermines everything the show tries to do.

Quite often I find that, once a few major things on a show have started to really annoy or bother me I then begin to pick up on various, smaller things about which perhaps wouldn't have bothered me as much if the the show hadn't already got on my bad side. Not that I'm saying that lack of consistency is a small problem, because it's actually quite a large one.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
See I dont understand why people say this about NTHT. Its not grounded. There is a flying battleship in it. There is a magical girl who produces water. Its a bit of sci fi fantasy that just happens to have realistic themes, but its still high fantasy.
Authors are perfectly free to set the rules of their own universe, but when they don't care enough to abide by them then I care less about the story.

In short, you can ask the audience to believe the impossible, but not the improbable.
 
It's not simply cynicism, it's my experience with the original series. It's pretty hard not to notice that the series experiences a drop in visual quality half-way through (despite the presence of a complete filler episode) which doesn't really make me particularly optimistic about how good a new series is going to look irrespective of the sales of the show.

Of course, some shows have managed to look dramatically worse in their second season despite having a strong first season. Case in point: Gunslinger Girls.

That is an understandable position which I can sympathize with.
 

BluWacky

Member
Chihayafuru gets a second season and Nana doesn't?

#thereisnojustice

How much more material is there that could be adapted? With the manga on long term hiatus thanks to whatever has happened to Ai Yazawa I don't know what the situation is. Plus it's possible that it's just not current enough any more - Nana was such a hot property and maybe its time has simply passed.
 

Jex

Member
Is anaru really that popular?

She was one of the major female leads in an extremely popular show so yes, although it's questionable how such popularity will fare in the longer-term considering that there's nothing particuarly interesting about her character. Of course, looking at any of the polls from Japan, it doesn't seem like being an interesting character is connected with your popularity among the fans.
 

Firemind

Member
How much more material is there that could be adapted? With the manga on long term hiatus thanks to whatever has happened to Ai Yazawa I don't know what the situation is. Plus it's possible that it's just not current enough any more - Nana was such a hot property and maybe its time has simply passed.

I don't know. I was waiting for a second season to materialize. :(

Nodame Cantabile went on hiatus several times, but thankfully that got adapted.
 

Dead

well not really...yet
I'm listening to some Ling Tosite Sigure stuff... and wow... I dunno. Psycho-Pass is going to have one weird OP.
Holy shit, Sigure are doing the OP? I fucking love that band :p Never thought I'd see them providing a song for an animu lol.
 

duckroll

Member
Holy shit, Sigure are doing the OP? I fucking love that band :p Never thought I'd see them providing a song for an animu lol.

You should check the last few (hundred) pages and look for all my posts on Psycho-Pass! It's a really weird talent pool!
 

Jex

Member
[Gunslinger Girl] - 10

Well that escalated quickly.

It was pretty clear from the first time we saw the crime scene that Elsa had killed Lauro and then herself. Lauro never took the time to fully understand his charge and this error, in the end, was fatal.

True, there could be some other explanation for their deaths but the fact that they occurred off-screen gives you a pretty clear indication about what happened to them. If they were killed in some gunfight than the show would be perfectly happy to show us that event occurring onscreen, there have been plenty of action scenes in the show so far. The fact that we don't see it happen helps to point us in the direction of a murder/suicide. I thought it was pretty ballsy that, at no time during the episode did they actually 'flashback' to th event.

And what of the Social Welfare's Agencies reaction? They obviously moved to cover it up, for their own good. The fact that we got to see another agency investigate the SWA helps with the world building of the series as a whole.

Interestingly enough the fact that this case hasn't been completely sown up by the conclusion of the episode has made this one of the longest running story arcs in the entire series
.

There's lots and lots of other things to talk about, direction wise, but sadly I do not have the time. I never even touched on the fact that Guise has taken Henrietta on a romantic cruise.
 

Jarmel

Banned
I'm listening to some Ling Tosite Sigure stuff... and wow... I dunno. Psycho-Pass is going to have one weird OP.

lol

I was going to ask you about them. I read their wiki page and it makes it seem almost death metalish(with screaming). I was expecting an OP that was sorta passive, this is going to be interesting.

It's also kinda impressive if you look at their Oricon stats though.
 

Dead

well not really...yet
Sigure aren't death metal. More like a mix of post rock/hardcore/progressive/pop music. I can't really think of any other band quite like them!

You should check the last few (hundred) pages and look for all my posts on Psycho-Pass! It's a really weird talent pool!
Yeah, I saw already, the directing staff seems interesting. Chief director is a live action dude?
 

duckroll

Member
lol

I was going to ask you about them. I read their wiki page and it makes it seem almost death metalish(with screaming). I was expecting an OP that was sorta passive, this is going to be interesting.

It's also kinda impressive if you look at their Oricon stats though.

It's the sort of music where I expect the opening sequence to be directed like a live action drama opening, so maybe it fits. Lots of noisy motion design on the screen, moving credits and stuff, and quick cuts showing the various characters one by one, etc. Something like CSI.
 
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