Yeah, well, other people did. "Losing" skype would be losing hundreds of millions of dollars to that same economy. But you didn't use it so it doesn't matter. People probably just use it to pirate movies, amirite?
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Yeah, well, other people did. "Losing" skype would be losing hundreds of millions of dollars to that same economy. But you didn't use it so it doesn't matter. People probably just use it to pirate movies, amirite?
LyleLanley
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Who would've thought that this thread would turn into a mess?
I like my iPhone as much as the next guy, but what the hell is this post?
I like my iPhone as much as the next guy, but what the hell is this post?
Where did I EVER talk about losing Skype? Why are you putting words into my mouth? I still use Skype, albeit rarely, with people who don't have an iOS device. Doesn't change the fact that the FaceTime experience is easier and better quality compared to using Skype. It's the default cross platform video chat app used by millions around the world instead of being an outdated communication method with a declining userbase. I bet more people use a fax than IRC these days...
You're just marching to the beat of your own drummer, aren't you? Do you even read the posts you reply to? It's like your replies are all tangents. That's the only way I can understand this rebuke of me interpreting your reply to that other post the only way that makes sense.
What did he say about ease of use or quality that you're now latching on to?
He's saying that if Infinity Blade never existed, all of that $20M would be under peoples' beds because they wouldn't know what else to spend it on.
You mentioned losing skype on your post not me. It has a huge number of users, just like Facetime and Infinity Blade. IRC does not have a huge number of users, so by definition, losing it would not be a big deal compared to those other examples. So IRC can not be held to the same standards as Skype or even Infinity Blade, it's a niche geek thing with a small and declining userbase.
Android bad for the economy?
Apple revolutionized video chat?
Btw, shame on you for never using any of that until Facetime came out.
LyleLanley
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So Infinity Blade is saving the economy? Good work Obama!
Never really doesn't mean never. Used it a few times but it's so inconvenient because you have to be signed on and sometimes you appear online but the other party sees you as offline and cant call. So Facetime is infinitely better due to not having any such bullshit like that.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
I loved my iPhone 4, but I'm not missing a single app since shifting to Android. I bought the Xperia S as a stopgap with the intention to get the iPhone 5 when it came out, but decided to keep it because going back to iOS would feel like I'm losing features, plus I always felt like I was tethered to my laptop. I hate the term "walled garden" with respect to iOS, because it had some advantages, but in day to day use there was always the feeling of 'what Apple says goes'. No default app selection was a huge one - it's on OSX, why not iOS?
The built in Xperia "Swype" style keyboard is faster to use than the iPhone's, the text correction/prediction is far better (it gives you 3 or 4 options not just one - that tiny 'x' to dismiss the suggestion on iPhone never worked for me) and just being allowed to set a default browser and YouTube app is a huge improvement. I can go to Google Play from any machine and install apps directly to my phone/tablet. Notifications are better.The camera has a great panorama mode, too. Battery is fine compared to my iPhone 4. Earlier Android releases were janky, for sure, but IMO it has caught up and iOS is being left behind. And I think Infinity Blade was massively overrated. More a showcase of "look at these graphics on a tablet!" than anything else.
The built in Xperia "Swype" style keyboard is faster to use than the iPhone's, the text correction/prediction is far better (it gives you 3 or 4 options not just one - that tiny 'x' to dismiss the suggestion on iPhone never worked for me) and just being allowed to set a default browser and YouTube app is a huge improvement. I can go to Google Play from any machine and install apps directly to my phone/tablet. Notifications are better.The camera has a great panorama mode, too. Battery is fine compared to my iPhone 4. Earlier Android releases were janky, for sure, but IMO it has caught up and iOS is being left behind. And I think Infinity Blade was massively overrated. More a showcase of "look at these graphics on a tablet!" than anything else.
The Faceless Master
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IRC usage is up almost 500% in relation to software development
Yea, unless you invested heavily in the iOS eco system, you should stick with the Xperia S, which is btw a very sexy phone. I always though Sony had one of the best, if not the best Android skins.
My girlfriend was thinking about dipping her toe in the Windows Phone world with the Nokia 920, and considered the GS3, but because she's been with the iPhone for such a while(well her definition of a while lol) so she feels super comfortable with that. And unless something really big comes along, will most likely stick with her iPhone 5 and future iPhones for a good bit.
Before, she would've never considered it, but this year she almost switched teams. I predict when she's due her next upgrade, she'll switch, since phones are adding things at such an advanced rate, they'll probably be something that wins her over. She's insanely happy with her iPhone 5, but disappointed with iOS6.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Someone had to step up the crazy without Paradoxical_Utopia around.
This too, but I think it was because Coldfoot said that Facetime is, hands down, the best video chat application on any platform.
Souless_PJ
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Android is a great many things but great app store platform it is not. That the iOS gaming and app recommendation threads here dwarf the other platforms by a boatload isn't a coincidence.
I prefer the elegance of WP to Android when it comes to smartphone OSes, but as a tablet OS Android is great. Lack of UI consistency and an overabundance of submenus, thus complicating user experience, is what brings down Android as a mobile OS for me, but these issues aren't as glaring in a tablet. Widgets really come into their own with the increased screen real estate. Unfortunately the quality of tablet-specific Android apps is just piss-poor. It got so bad I sold my Transformer away and crawled back to an iPad.
But remember, it's annoying to be automatically signed in to gtalk, but then it's annoying having to sign in to be able to use it. Being automatically and non-optionally signed in to face time however is a blessing from the gods.
Scuba Steve
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Lumia 920 Hammer test
Wow, I don't know how I came across this, but that's an old school durability I haven't been used to since old electronics like the original Gameboy
Wow, I don't know how I came across this, but that's an old school durability I haven't been used to since old electronics like the original Gameboy
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doubleplusgood
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Having recently purchased a WP 7.5 phone I must say I'm pretty pleased with it. Even if it's on the low end of the scale (Lumia 710). The UI is smooth and responsive and it covers my needs quite well.
Then again my previous phone was a entry or mid range phone that came on the market in 2005. So a crayon colored rock would probably feel like a technological marvel to me
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Then again my previous phone was a entry or mid range phone that came on the market in 2005. So a crayon colored rock would probably feel like a technological marvel to me
.Scuba Steve
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Ah shucks, still pretty crazy
Seriously, video chat was irrelevant before Apple because my family said so?
Hell let's just say Apple invented it.. This is how it works right?
You are not "signed into" anything for Facetime. And unlike gtalk, the purpose of Facetime is video chat only, so you don't end up announcing your availability to your entire contact list and open yourself to getting messages on an IM service that you really don't want to use for IM'ing at the time. The video quality and framerate of Facetime are unmatched in my experience as well.
So you're not signed in, but if someone "facetimes" you, it will show up on your device? Unless dnd is on of course. That's pretty much the definition of being signed in to a service imo.
As a side note, it's definitely possible to not automatically sign in to gtalk.
So you're always signed into text messaging by your logic? Facetime works the same way as phone calls or texting. You don't see yourself "signed into" anything, and it's a clear benefit in its favor.
*shrugs* yeah, pretty much. As long as you have cell coverage you're signed in to receiving texts and calls. You can then choose to ignore them or answer.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
And being able to run on anything works in Skype's favour. You can't even use Facetime without Apple products.
MarkMclovin
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Why?
That just guarantees that video and audio quality/smoothness will be up to a certain standard unlike Skype.
mescalineeyes
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Just drop it, man. You are doing everyone a disservice. Skype is great. Facetime is great. Please.
Being signed into "cell coverage" and some Skype server over TCP/IP are entirely different things. TCP/IP isn't designed to be that reliable compared to the connection between your phone and the cell tower.
Talking from experience. Skype hasn't even come close to Facetime in my usage experience. Its only purpose is to communicate with those who don't have Apple devices. For the people I care about most (Family) I circumvented that problem by getting them Apple products.
Well, the issue there is that I was basing my opinion of Jelly Bean on its performance on the Transformer Infinity before it officially received the update. In that case, I'd say the high screen resolution of that tablet hurt the overall performance of the system and gave the impression that it wasn't fixed. I haven't yet tried it with the official update.
The actual PHONE I tried with Jelly Bean, however, was really damn smooth. I was impressed.
Every single other iteration of Android prior to JB was unimpressive in that regard. I doubted it based on that tablet experience and, more importantly, the fact that Android users had made such boasts many times in the past (oh, this next version of Android solves those problems). That was never the case until now. JB really DOES solve a lot of problems and is awesome!
Probably. I've never seen anyone use it, though.
Our president is one
Google+ lol.
*cough*
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Nearly everyone, then.
*according to coldfoot
MarkMclovin
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Ah I see, I'm not going to bother then.
Though I have to say I've never had a problem with gtalk at all. The video calling is great.
it's definitely a lol as far as user base is concerned, especially compared against competition. However, if we're throwing the whole, "In my experience" into the fray, it has been a far more valuable service for my family and I as we use it across our desktops, iphones, and android devices without fail.
Multi-participant video conferencing with great quality, even over relatively poor connections.
Persistent personalize chat rooms with pictures support - great for everyday updates with the family and friends. You can even go through the room's history if you haven't participated in a while, which needless to say, is a great way to catch up.
All wrapped up in a nice and neat social networking package that's designed far better than it's more popular competitor.
The beauty is that it can be used as either a multi purpose service (as described above), or single purpose (like face time); pick someone in your contacts and video call them for instance.
1. Other people can see your availability and exactly when you are online or offline.
2. You get IM's when all you want to do is video chat, because people can see that you're online.
Gtalk is an IM service, Google is trying to use it for other purposes but it will always stay as an IM service first and that makes it not as suited for video conferencing as FaceTime.
I don't understand.
You're signed in as online - someone sends you a message.
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Then what happens? How does this impede video conferencing? You're sorta skipping some middle element here I feel.
Coldfoot keeping up the good fight.
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