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Jobless rates falls below 8% for the first time in 4 years

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Something Wicked said:
And the more the left trumpets these numbers, the more middle class, independent voters will recognize just how clueless this administration is at promoting acceptable levels of economic growth.

By playing this up, some of you guys here and the lefty media are simply gift wrapping Romney another couple "zingers" to use against Obama in the next debate.
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There's a number of things I take issue with in your post.

1. The president doesn't hold much power at all over the economy. It's about perception of power, but you seem to imply the president can have more than just ideas and actually act and that's just not true, and even his ideas are useless with a congress actively working against him.

2. There's no way Romney can effectively use this. To do so he'd have to either make outlandish claims (like 4% unemployment with him in office) or provide some kind of coherent plan, and so far he's been terrible at making consistent, logical plans that don't have huge, easy to refute holes in them.
 
Wtf is wrong with these people? Do they have tumors in their brains??


Nevertheless, some groups stuck with the narrative that the economy isn't improving fast enough. The Congressional Leadership Fund, a super PAC primarily backed by GOP mega-donor Sheldon Adelson, launched a robocall attacking vulnerable House Democrats over the figures.

"I am calling on behalf of the Congressional Leadership Fund to tell you about the weak new jobs report," reads the script. "With just 114,000 jobs added, it's yet another failure of policies supported by Obama and Kathy Hochul. But we don't need a jobs report to know that these failed economic policies are hurting family's bottom lines. We've been buried in it."
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Something Wicked said:
And the more the left trumpets these numbers, the more middle class, independent voters will recognize just how clueless this administration is at promoting acceptable levels of economic growth.

By playing this up, some of you guys here and the lefty media are simply gift wrapping Romney another couple "zingers" to use against Obama in the next debate.
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You're right, though. This isn't an acceptable level of economic growth. I say we throw out the obstructionist republicans and we can get some real growth going instead of having everything Obama wants to do to promote "acceptable" levels of growth stopped in its tracks.


Baraka in the White House said:
So it's back to that damn librul lefty media again, I see.
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It's weird how quickly they can jump on this, despite not a few days ago the media jumping for joy at a Romney win, despite that he won only on style and not substance at all. The media celebrated a victory to a guy that threw out more bullshit than almost anyone could actually track, yet they're lefty?
 
balladofwindfishes said:
There's a number of things I take issue with in your post.

1. The president doesn't hold much power at all over the economy. It's about perception of power, but you seem to imply the president can have more than just ideas and actually act and that's just not true, and even his ideas are useless with a congress actively working against him.

2. There's no way Romney can effectively use this. To do so he'd have to either make outlandish claims (like 4% unemployment with him in office) or provide some kind of coherent plan, and so far he's been terrible at making consistent, logical plans that don't have huge, easy to refute holes in them.
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More Americans working = good. All Romney can say is it's not good enough.
 
Something Wicked said:
And the more the left trumpets these numbers, the more middle class, independent voters will recognize just how clueless this administration is at promoting acceptable levels of economic growth.

By playing this up, some of you guys here and the lefty media are simply gift wrapping Romney another couple "zingers" to use against Obama in the next debate.
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Good luck with that.
 
Hilarious.

The main GOP tagline has been the economy hasn't improved at all since Obama took office. Romney has had the audacity to claim it's gotten WORSE on several occasions.

Now, he's not improving it fast enough.
 
I don't buy these numbers for a second. They have to be heavily manipulated. I can't believe the actual unemployment in this country is anywhere close to single digits.
 
Once that article was released I saw people pulling those U6 numbers like crazy.

"It's 14%!!"

Jesus Christ. Just stop it you right wingers.
 
Mackenzie 92 said:
Can you give me some examples of what you're talking about? I'm not doubting the truth, I'd just like to learn more myself.

Also, can someone explain the logic behind Mitt and other republicans saying that people just quit looking for work, thus the unemployment rate decreased. Are they still not unemployed? I don't get it.
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People who haven't looked for work in a month aren't counted as "unemployed", they count as "not in the labor force." This includes people who have no intention of working, like retirees, as well as people who might possibly like to work but stopped looking. The latter group are counted as "marginally attached to the labor force" if they looked for work in the last 12 months but not in the last 4 weeks.

The level of marginally attached workers has barely changed in the last year.
 
Holy shit, the spin from the Republican base is incredible... I hope Obama calls them out on this during the next debate.

Great numbers and good news. But not according to Republicans! CONSPIRACY!
 
MeBecomingI said:
Holy shit, the spin from the Republican base is incredible... I hope Obama calls them out on this during the next debate.

Great numbers and good news. But not according to Republicans!
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I'm a hardcore republican and i think it's good news.....

I also think it's good news that we will have a new President soon.

;)
 
MidnightRider said:
Funny that it happened a month shy of the election.
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Funny that it didn't happen right before the conventions. Funny that it didn't happen before the first debate. Funny that it didn't happen while the Republicans have been running the line "unemployment hasn't gone below 8%."
 
Darkgran said:
Please explain....
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More likely because he lives in a region that may be harder hit by unemployment and thus has an "anecdotal" view of the UE situation nationwide.

"Hey, it's raining outside my window; therefore, it must be raining in [______] as well"

It's an issue of scope.

I can tell you this: my inbox has been steadily filling up with job props very consistently starting around Feb this year to the point where it's like spam in my inbox.
 
Jason's Ultimatum said:
The issue is simple:

1. Unemployment % increases, Republicans complain.
2. Unemployment % decreases, Republicans complain.
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That sort of reminds me about how they feel about his foreign policy.

1. Obama sends minor intervention to Libya, AAAGH you're doing too much!
2. Obama sends nothing to Syria, AAAGH why you no help?

Going back to the topic of the recovery not being enough, I just wish the Dems would have at least made some point during this election cycle of showing everyone just how obstructionist the GOP in the Senate have been these past four years in terms of filibustering at record-breaking numbers so that we might finally get the dirtbags out.
 
BertramCooper said:
Both parties do this.

It always starts off as "We'll work together for America!" but nobody in politics ever wants the opposing party to succeed. That undermines their own party's power.

It's a game.
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I feel like this is the kind of thing people who want to sound edgy about politics say. It's such an ignorant generalization that ignores actual evidence of the contrary. Yeah, there is some truth to it but it isn't simply the case Dems=Repubs, two sides of the same coin, less/greater of two evils, blah blah, like statements like that make it out to be
 
BertramCooper said:
Both parties do this.

It always starts off as "We'll work together for America!" but nobody in politics ever wants the opposing party to succeed. That undermines their own party's power.

It's a game.
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Ehh, they came out right at the beginning and said their goal was to make Obama a one-term president. I suppose that at least in that one case, I can praise the GOP's honesty.
 
#1: Obamacare
#2: Fast & Furious
#3: Weakening the Military
#4: the cover up of the Ambassador being killed
#5: unemployment rate for 4 years running
#6: adding more public debt in 4 years than all of the other presidents combined.

The list goes on and on.

Good luck in November. Yall will need it.
 
Mackenzie 92 said:
Can you give me some examples of what you're talking about? I'm not doubting the truth, I'd just like to learn more myself.
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Republicans have staunchly opposed stimulative measures that would strengthen the economy and create jobs for partisan reasons.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...to-jobs-bill/2011/10/06/gIQAhueMQL_story.html

Mackenzie 92 said:
Also, can someone explain the logic behind Mitt and other republicans saying that people just quit looking for work, thus the unemployment rate decreased. Are they still not unemployed? I don't get it.
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The unemployment rate that you will hear reported is a rate that is based only on those who are actively looking for work but unable to find it. So people who have simply given up looking for a job because they have been unable to find one are not considered unemployed. They are simply excluded from the calculation. If you count those people as unemployed, the rate of unemployment necessarily increases.

Mitt is wrong, however. The latest report actually showed a higher participation rate, meaning a greater proportion of the population was looking for work than last month. That the rate still dropped was due to even more people reporting being employed than people entering the job market. However, it is true that there is still a substantial number of people who are not looking for work (given up trying), and so the official unemployment rate still understates the real economic picture (as it always does whether times are good or bad).
 
MidnightRider said:
#1: Obamacare
#2: Fast & Furious
#3: Weakening the Military
#4: the cover up of the Ambassador being killed
#5: unemployment rate for 4 years running
#6: adding more public debt in 4 years than all of the other presidents combined.

The list goes on and on.

Good luck in November. Yall will need it.
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Okay.

Look, here's a number I think you'll need come November 7th:

1-800-273-8255

Just remember that no matter what happens, hurting yourself isn't the answer.
 
MidnightRider said:
#1: Obamacare
#2: Fast & Furious
#3: Weakening the Military
#4: the cover up of the Ambassador being killed
#5: unemployment rate for 4 years running
#6: adding more public debt in 4 years than all of the other presidents combined.

The list goes on and on.

Good luck in November. Yall will need it.
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This is what Republicans actually believe.
 
MidnightRider said:
#1: Obamacare
#2: Fast & Furious
#3: Weakening the Military
#4: the cover up of the Ambassador being killed
#5: unemployment rate for 4 years running
#6: adding more public debt in 4 years than all of the other presidents combined.

The list goes on and on.

Good luck in November. Yall will need it.
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1: Millions and millions more have health insurance, yay
2: lol
3: Military could use to be weaker, considering we spend more than like the next ~20 countries in military. How about we spend that money here?
4: Well, we already know you believe in conspiracy theories, so lol
5: You remember that crash we had in 2008 under President Bush? You don't think that along with obstructionist Republicans had anything to do with it?
6: Slowest spending growth in decades under Oama

Have you seen the electoral prospects for Romney?

Good luck in November. You'll need it. You should also call off work the day after the election, because I'm certain you don't want your coworkers to see you balling your eyes out.
 
MidnightRider said:
#1: Obamacare
#2: Fast & Furious
#3: Weakening the Military
#4: the cover up of the Ambassador being killed
#5: unemployment rate for 4 years running
#6: adding more public debt in 4 years than all of the other presidents combined.

The list goes on and on.

Good luck in November. Yall will need it.
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Please stop going to Right Wing propaganda news outlets. Yes that includes Fox news...
 
MidnightRider said:
#1: Obamacare
#2: Fast & Furious
#3: Weakening the Military
#4: the cover up of the Ambassador being killed
#5: unemployment rate for 4 years running
#6: adding more public debt in 4 years than all of the other presidents combined.

The list goes on and on.

Good luck in November. Yall will need it.
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Oh, I dunno. If that's your idea of hating America, I suspect we won't need much luck at all. But don't take my word for it -- take Gallup's.
 
MidnightRider said:
#1: Obamacare
#2: Fast & Furious
#3: Weakening the Military
#4: the cover up of the Ambassador being killed
#5: unemployment rate for 4 years running
#6: adding more public debt in 4 years than all of the other presidents combined.

The list goes on and on.

Good luck in November. Yall will need it.
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Someone's gonna be sad this November. I hope you'll come back to talk about it!
 
MidnightRider said:
#5: unemployment rate for 4 years running
The list goes on and on.

Good luck in November. Yall will need it.
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The net decrease in the unemployment rate over the past year is HIGHER than than usual for the re-election of a President. What are you going on about? It has dropped nearly an entire percent in this last year.
 
MidnightRider said:
#1: Obamacare
#2: Fast & Furious
#3: Weakening the Military
#4: the cover up of the Ambassador being killed
#5: unemployment rate for 4 years running
#6: adding more public debt in 4 years than all of the other presidents combined.

The list goes on and on.

Good luck in November. Yall will need it.
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To your point of the public debt, just remember when the Iraq and Afghan wars came into the budget...........
 
MidnightRider said:
How funny. By the look of the current administration you'd think Democrats hate America.
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MidnightRider said:
#1: Obamacare

Same concept that Romney pioneered. Same concept proposed in the 90's by the Republicans. Increased Americans with healthcare coverage, covered dependents to 26, brokered coverage for high risk individuals via high risk pools. Removed lifetime limits, ensuring the lives of thousands of people who depend on costly procedures to live. Sure seems like he hates Americans!

#2: Fast & Furious

Enacted by agents in Arizona, proven no responsibility to Holder, no responsibility to Obama, policy started under Bush. Get yer facts straight?

#3: Weakening the Military

Killed Osama. Increased drone strikes. Brought soldiers back from Iraq on time reuniting them with family and drawing down in Afghanistan (partially because he killed Osama). Quick and dirty in Libya -- no American lives lost and toppled a dictator in record time. Nuff said.

#4: the cover up of the Ambassador being killed

Wha....huh?

#5: unemployment rate for 4 years running

LMAO! Right, because he came into such a rosy situation like Bush did, right? Compare the employment numbers from Bush in and Bush out. Yeah, thought so.

#6: adding more public debt in 4 years than all of the other presidents combined.

Reagan doubled the national debt. Fact. Is he the worst president of all time? Bush nearly doubled it again.

The list goes on and on.

Good luck in November. Yall will need it.
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LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

TOO EASY
 
MidnightRider said:
#1: Obamacare
#2: Fast & Furious
#3: Weakening the Military
#4: the cover up of the Ambassador being killed
#5: unemployment rate for 4 years running
#6: adding more public debt in 4 years than all of the other presidents combined.

The list goes on and on.

Good luck in November. Yall will need it.
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It actually scares me that there are people who believe things like this. This is indoctrination levels of delusion
 
MidnightRider said:
#1: Obamacare
#2: Fast & Furious
#3: Weakening the Military
#4: the cover up of the Ambassador being killed
#5: unemployment rate for 4 years running
#6: adding more public debt in 4 years than all of the other presidents combined.

The list goes on and on.

Good luck in November. Yall will need it.
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