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New Dead Space 3 Screenshots & Previews (New Psychosis Feature Detailed) [Up: Video]
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jediyoshi
Member
I'll take DLC that retcons Severed as well.
Unfortunately I can't really comment on the story.
For a question you might actually be able to answer, this is the only Dead Space news for today right?
I mainly ask since your twitter hasn't said it is, but the previews have been out for nearly four hours now.
I don't know, I was wondering what the announce was going to be myself so I came here to see what it was. I heard people talking some yesterday but to be honest I'm kind of tired and focusing on just trying to finish.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
While this is a cool feature, I was sort of expecting a trailer... maybe a trailer showing off some psychosis.
It was also done in Dead Space: Extraction, a.k.a. The Second-Best Dead Space Game.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Steelbook would be cool.
How come we didn't see any other DLC asides from Severed? I was hoping for more.
How come we didn't see any other DLC asides from Severed? I was hoping for more.
Presumably the game and/or DLC didn't sell enough to warrant more.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Waist coast and tie, man's got style.
GayForMaster
Banned
No.
Net_Wrecker
Member
They totally stole David Jaffe's co-op psychological horror idea from the E3 Bombcasts.
Unless this was hinted at / announced beforehand.
Unless this was hinted at / announced beforehand.
PetriP-TNT
Member
Sounds really cool. Loved DS 2 (and 1 minus the asteroids), starting to warm to DS3 too.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
Those were my exact thoughts. After the screens and such, I audibly said, "Whatever, I'm in."
Wow some of those morphs were moving ridiculously fast.
what they did there? I haven't played it.
Sounds awesome, but it indeed sounds like something that's fun for like, one time. And now I've read it. And the cool is gone
Monkey Pants
Outpost Games Creative Director
I was the Art Director from the start of the series thru Pre-Production on DS3.
Ben Wanat is the Production Designer for all three games, and a lot of the Dead-Space-y-ness comes from him. He's also Creative Directing DS3.
Alex Muscat, who was on Environments on DS2, has taken over Art Direction on DS3 for Production.
I'm still at Visceral and check in with DS3 sometimes, but I'm cooking up new hotness for the future.
I think you guys are going to be surprised how ambitious DS3 is. Co-op has never been done like this. It's totally optional, and yet unique and cool when you do it, not just tacked on. And overall the game is much bigger in scope.
We appreciate how much people have a right to expect for $60 and want to blow those expectations away.
SlasherJPC
Banned
YESSS!!! Thank you!
This thread got me to reinstall both DS games and start to go through them again <3.
One thing though... even if this decision is to be made in upper-management or what have you. For the love of god don't exclude PC again when it comes to DLC. I've bought DS several times on 360 for myself and friends, I've also owned DS1/2 on all 3 platforms. Now that my consoles are long gone only my pc remains, which happens to be the only platform where DS 2: Severed DLC isn't available.
I am to assume that DS3 requires Origin no? Then there's no excuse not to have any console dlc on the pc as well, especially considering if there already is a distribution platform like Origin ready at hand.
One thing though... even if this decision is to be made in upper-management or what have you. For the love of god don't exclude PC again when it comes to DLC. I've bought DS several times on 360 for myself and friends, I've also owned DS1/2 on all 3 platforms. Now that my consoles are long gone only my pc remains, which happens to be the only platform where DS 2: Severed DLC isn't available.
I am to assume that DS3 requires Origin no? Then there's no excuse not to have any console dlc on the pc as well, especially considering if there already is a distribution platform like Origin ready at hand.
My primary concern about this game is that in Dead Space 1 and to a slightly lesser extent, Dead Space 2, I loved how isolated I felt - Isaac was totally alone (except when he wasn't, and those bits weren't as enjoyable for me). The atmosphere was incredibly good.
I'm worried about that being gone.
Is there going to be much chatter between Isaac and ...player 2...? If so, are they both going to be utterly terrified and not up for chatting about the weather etc at least?
I want the feeling of being an engineer who is completely out of his depth but plodding on to see the situation through nonetheless.
Monkey Pants
Outpost Games Creative Director
That's easy. Play the game single player. If you play on your own Carver usually isn't there at all. He doesn't get taken over by AI and tag along like other games. He's not there.
Hey Ian, while you're here, is this a mistake or something you can't comment on?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=499042
DarknessTear
Banned
DS3 is going to require online pass to do co-op, right?
Monkey Pants
Outpost Games Creative Director
Can't speak for the future, but right now there's no WiiU sku that I know of.
I genuinely enjoyed the original Dead Space when it first came out. I thought it was the closest game we were going to get to an old school horror game. There were remnants of PSone era Resident Evil design in there, but it wasn't quite where I wanted it to be. Dead Space 2 came out and completely got rid of any of those feelings/ideas. Needless to say, I didn't enjoy it as much as the original.
Dead Space 3 looks to head down the same mindless coop route that I've grown to detest. The psychological perspective/horror of the other player doesn't do shit for me either. I too loved the isolation in the original. It had the Metroid vibe as well (especially with the suit upgrade terminals). I also liked how Isaac didn't speak in the original game. As soon as they gave him a voice I lost interest in the character.
Incoming "Game's like this could never happen today" wish...
I really wish we could have gotten a Dead Space that was structured similarly to the original Mansion design in RE. Christ, give us something designed like Metroid Prime, even. Imagine if Visceral attempted to design a fully explorable ship/location with sealed/locked areas that needed to be powered up, areas that required tools/upgrades to access, and semi-non-linear objectives/flow. Add limited inventory (which the series already does fairly well) and constraints on saving and you could have a true survival horror classic. I mean, there's just SO MUCH you could do with these games (and this genre!). I know I'm simplifying and generalizing design here, but does anyone get what I'm saying? I felt like Dead Space 1 was the closest we got to this design. It was just too linear in the end, too chapter focused, too sectioned off to reach such heights.
I totally get that games "need" to have a social aspect (...coop) of some kind today, but there's other ways to do it (like how From Software handles the Demon's/Dark Souls games). I'm just sick of these tried and true coop games. It's the same reason why I dislike RE5, RE6, and all of the other extra horrible cooperative games this generation (Army of Two, Kane & Lynch, etc.). This "other player seeing stuff you aren't seeing" isn't much of a diversification either (too gimmicky and cheesy for me, honestly), even if it's there for narrative/character/story purposes.
Dead Space 3 looks to head down the same mindless coop route that I've grown to detest. The psychological perspective/horror of the other player doesn't do shit for me either. I too loved the isolation in the original. It had the Metroid vibe as well (especially with the suit upgrade terminals). I also liked how Isaac didn't speak in the original game. As soon as they gave him a voice I lost interest in the character.
Incoming "Game's like this could never happen today" wish...
I really wish we could have gotten a Dead Space that was structured similarly to the original Mansion design in RE. Christ, give us something designed like Metroid Prime, even. Imagine if Visceral attempted to design a fully explorable ship/location with sealed/locked areas that needed to be powered up, areas that required tools/upgrades to access, and semi-non-linear objectives/flow. Add limited inventory (which the series already does fairly well) and constraints on saving and you could have a true survival horror classic. I mean, there's just SO MUCH you could do with these games (and this genre!). I know I'm simplifying and generalizing design here, but does anyone get what I'm saying? I felt like Dead Space 1 was the closest we got to this design. It was just too linear in the end, too chapter focused, too sectioned off to reach such heights.
I totally get that games "need" to have a social aspect (...coop) of some kind today, but there's other ways to do it (like how From Software handles the Demon's/Dark Souls games). I'm just sick of these tried and true coop games. It's the same reason why I dislike RE5, RE6, and all of the other extra horrible cooperative games this generation (Army of Two, Kane & Lynch, etc.). This "other player seeing stuff you aren't seeing" isn't much of a diversification either (too gimmicky and cheesy for me, honestly), even if it's there for narrative/character/story purposes.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
It is easier if we don't know our own news because then we can't leak it.
Thank you. Also I hope we get to see your new project next year. EA's sounded pretty happy with their new IP slate, so I'm sure it's shaping up quite well.
Yeah, it's a good idea, especially given EA's leakiness.
Messofanego
Banned
And in that case it'll retain the isolated, desperate feeling of the first 2?
Great
If that works out, then I'll probably play it solo the first time, then look for a co-op partner for a follow-up playthrough
I think we're actually doing something a lot more involved than what I am seeing there in the picture. The picture looks like two people in the same physical space seeing the same enemies with different models.
We're not doing that at all.
I agree with this to some extent - I much preferred Isaac as a faceless, voiceless character, but it didn't exactly ruin him/the game for me when this changed.
Disagree with this bit, I loved that in Dead Space you had an area you had to 'complete', then you went back through it to the tram and on to the next area. I'd love to see another Dead Space game use this formula again, even if it's a side-story or something.
I love the IDEA of co-op in the game, but I'm still afraid it'll take away from the atmosphere I want when I play a Dead Space/survival horror game.
I'd quite like it if the co-op was a character who is just a figment of Isaac's imagination. Maybe the connection with the Marker means they can harm (but possibly not kill?) the necromorphs, and they'd be able to use the slowing objects/puzzles/enemies down ability as they're an extension of Isaac's mind, but other than this, they wouldn't be able to affect the physical world. Would make for some interesting co-op play and would have a better chance of not affecting the atmosphere and changing the focus of the game to two dudes bro-ing down.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I quite liked this idea, but I wish there wasn't cutscenes involved...this is the type of think would work with not interruptions breaking the flow of the game and the inmersion.
I would have like a voiceless character if animations would be there to show a wide range of emotions. But in the biggest revelation of the first DS1 he does a FACEPALM!...A FACEPALM!.
I like Isaac more in DS2 thanks to that...
I would have like a voiceless character if animations would be there to show a wide range of emotions. But in the biggest revelation of the first DS1 he does a FACEPALM!...A FACEPALM!.
I like Isaac more in DS2 thanks to that...
Gozer the Gozerian
Member
Y'all are crazy voiced Isaac is the shit
I don't need a wide range of emotions from Isaac - he just needs to be terrified to varying levels and I think they animated that really well in his body movements and bodily reactions to things happening
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
One little thing I hope is an option to change the way the reticule works. It looks like its simply a fixed dot in the screen now, unlike the past games where it was an actual laser dot that was painted on objects in the world. That made it easier to see what you were actually targeting, like limbs and stuff. And it worked nicely with how so much of the HUD elements were implemented into the actual game world too.
I liked the tram car a lot too, but I would have loved it if they took the idea and expanded on it for a sequel. I dislike the fact that I couldn't return to old areas in the tram car unless the story or chapters took me back there. I think those older areas should have had backtrack-able reasons to return there. Whether this was in the form of an item, schematic, upgrade, new enemy/scenario, etc. it would have just given the game a larger scope and a greater sense of place. I mean, how cool would of it had been if there was a flooded cargo room that could only be accessed by draining the floor from elsewhere on the ship. Maybe the water is electrified and you had to shut down the power somewhere else on the ship to gain access. You could hop around the tram car in a non-linear fashion, exploring a ship, and figuring out its problems. The games do this in some sense already, but it's all self contained and chapter focused.
The thing that blew me away about Resident Evil was that the entire facility/mansion was explorable, front to back, by the end of the game (well, before you went down to the lab area). The return to the mansion in the first game was such a groundbreaking moment for me (and others) because they introduced a ridiculously scary/intimidating new enemy type (Hunters), mixed enemy locations, and added new rooms/areas to an old stomping ground. Nothing stopped you from going back to the outhouse though and that's my point. Resident Evil Zero was like this too, as far as I can remember. The entire game is explorable by the end (aside from the train intro). Most games today are too constrained and linear. I feel like it's really holding people (developers) back because it's what gamers have been conditioned to play and most importantly, I guess, it sells.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Most of the time he just stood there emotionless when shit was happeing or when other characters where speaking to him. And then we got the facepalm.
I think that if you have a voiceless character, emotions should be captured through his movements. Showing him strugling against monster is not enough,They totally failed to do so in DS1, that's why Issac in DS2 is a better character, because he's the first time he's an actual character.