Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This is ludicrous. No way it takes 30 seconds or less.
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Bayonetta complains about the Wii U's slow OS on Youtube
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This is ludicrous. No way it takes 30 seconds or less.
lol well played OP. I read it was bad, but I didn't know the OS was that bad.
Ok, this is horrible. Why does the settings need to load if you're already in the dashboard (or whatever it's called)?? The settings should be part of the dashboard OS for fuck's sake.
Here I thought the 360 OS was bad in the past...
Edit:
I want to agree, but I haven't actually sat there and timed my 360 booting up. I only timed the games library loading up with the most recent dashboard and that's around 9 seconds IIRC.
Still, we're talking about a new system compared to 7 year old hardware. I have my doubts that the OS in the PS4 and 720 will be this slow and clunky.
Ok, this is horrible. Why does the settings need to load if you're already in the dashboard (or whatever it's called)?? The settings should be part of the dashboard OS for fuck's sake.
Here I thought the 360 OS was bad in the past...
Edit:
I want to agree, but I haven't actually sat there and timed my 360 booting up. I only timed the games library loading up with the most recent dashboard and that's around 9 seconds IIRC.
Still, we're talking about a new system compared to 7 year old hardware. I have my doubts that the OS in the PS4 and 720 will be this slow and clunky.
A Twisty Fluken
Member
Launch struggles come in many forms, is what I was saying, and everyone has them in one way or another.
It's not acceptable, and it needs to get fixed. All I was saying is I am willing to give them a little bit of time to actually do it.
I thought Wii U OS was slow.
But it is dddddddaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnn tttttttuuuuuuurrrrrrrttttttlllllleeeeeee sssssssslllllllllllllooooooooooowwwwwww
Who coded this and said "well, it works, let's ship it"? I would be embarrassed to put something like that on production servers.
Dreams-Visions
Member
the mound of bullshit in your posts are so high, I damn near can't see my keyboard to type this reply.
Since I have all 3 consoles, I'll go and time OS times with my stopwatch and report back later. Say:
1.) cold boot to the main OS menu
2.) booting a game (from selecting the game in the main menu to seeing the first splash screen)
3.) opening the settings menu (from the boot starting point)
4.) opening netflix
5.) opening web browser to espn.com (from the boot starting point/main menu)
6.) opening and navigating to the wifi settings menu (from the boot starting point/main menu)
7.) opening the store (from the boot starting point/main menu)
I suspect the numbers will not be close. At all. If you're correct and the numbers are similar, I'll eat my shorts.
I was just responding to what you said about the 360... I wasn't the one that brought that system up.
Uhh... That sequence does take around that much time. Start up is around 15 sec., dashboard load up is about 10 sec., and the option to start a game is one of the first things on the dashboard.
If it takes much longer than something is wrong with your 360.
Do you have your PS3 and 360 running launch firmware? The only fair test, really, would be PS3/360 vs. Wii U five years from now.
#1, #2:
"Main OS menu" leaves too much ambiguity, as does "first splash" screen as I've noted that the Wii U first-party games have dropped splash screens, so that the only splash is the one on the main menu, then you're dropped immediately into the gameplay of Nintendoland, for example.
So you should do: from walking into the room (all devices off) to playing Nintendoland, versus walking into the room to playing some other big game. That's the fair sequence.
#3, #6:
We all know the Settings problem; that part of every Nintendo system has been slow as hell, but is rarely used.
#5:
From boot to espn.com, yes I 'm interested in that one most certainly. Site must be fully loaded. There is still some ambiguity as to feature comparisons though (typing versus using onscreen keyboard to reach the site; also if you had ESPN open before, the Wii U browser pulls it right back up where you left it very snappy).
MisterHero
Super Member
All these loadtimes and it's not even for a decent wrestling game. 
Backfoggen
Banned
Maybe a couple secs more but definitely around 30 secs.
sixteen-bit
Member
Those glasses are weird.
They're like the reverse of browline glasses.
They're like the reverse of browline glasses.
So something from 2005/2006 vs. something from 2012 would be fair? Heck, even then I'm pretty sure that the original 360 blades UI was faster.
Also, I would hope the Wii U is faster in UI five years from now. It would be sad if it wasn't.
Yeah, let's compare 2005 and 2006 software with 2012 software.
Edit: Beaten like a one legged ZombiU.
Also, how can Nintendo fuck up so badly as to have such atrocious loading times for the menu and language settings? Does the XMB even load when accessing the system settings and changing languages? I'm pretty sure the Xbox doesn't load.
ZedIndyLil
Member
Yeah, it's a bummer. It's probably speediest when going from boot to game, but with Nintendo pitching this as a multitasking more-than-games machine, all the sluggishness is really not acceptable. For some activities it's on the outside edge of tolerable, but for streaming media, the PS3 will remain my box.
And for those expecting massive improvements from updates, is there really a precedent across any hardware (console, phone, tablet, etc.) where an update improved speeds by 2-3x? I can't think of any, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
And for those expecting massive improvements from updates, is there really a precedent across any hardware (console, phone, tablet, etc.) where an update improved speeds by 2-3x? I can't think of any, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
Hari Seldon
Member
I remember the 360 being faster at launch since it didn't have all the ad bullshit. Maybe I am mistaken.
Clay Davis
Member
the original 360 loaded almost instantly, it wouldn't be a fair contest for the others. blades >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else.
Clay Davis
Member
there were ads on the blades. it was just doing a lot less when it launched, so the OS was snappy and loaded almost instantly.
now it's doing a lot more and so loads slower.
Dreams-Visions
Member
When the iPad launched, did we compare it to WinMo pocketPC OSes and Palm Pilots from 2002?
When the iPhone launched, did we comare it to 1988 cellphone OSes?
When Windows 8 launched, did we break out our Apple II's to be fair?
What the fuck kind of logic is this? Or were you just joking? Or will your expectation be that the Xbox 720 and PS4 will have OSes that operate objectively SLOWER than their predecessors, despite have CPU's and GPUs that are multiple times more powerful than said predecessors? The amount of excuse-making going on in here is baffling.
alrightey. will do and report back when I can.
I do not have a 360, so my own point of reference is the PS3, which seems to have a similar boot time to Wii U, even after the annoying disclaimer they added (which was criticized by many, including myself). Accessing my friends list and messages is much quicker that the friends list and miiverse on the Wii U.
This could be due to my weak internet away from my hotspot location, but PSN boots quicker and on my Wii U I am often kicked out after almost a half minute from opening it - which then takes me back to the homescreen via insufferable waiting.
"much" implies more than 2-3 across 5+ years. I've already taken it to three other locations and so have had had to access it at each one, as well as my own. I've also had to open it for wi-fi and wiimote sensitivity calibration.
I love the Wii U. I love Nintendo. I don't love them apparently throwing out their reputed efficiency, design philosophies, and absurd ram allotment out the window and giving me a clunky OS.
Oh hey, I remember this logic from the Diablo 3 "let's only compare it to launch-window D2" defense force.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Mine takes at least 30 seconds to log-in when I choose my avatar, and then has to go through the process of loading the dashboard which takes about 15 seconds. Maybe something is wrong with my 360.
3 minutes to change the language of the system is not bad? I can do that on the other two consoles in under 10 seconds.
Joeshabadoo
Member
Never had a 24 sec load, usually 15 at most. still not good
Clay Davis
Member
have you tried clearing the cache? it sounds like there's an issue with either your console or the cache needs clearing.
Tylahedras
Banned
Looks more like a guy that had a sex change operation to cosplay as Bayonetta... when he was 50 years old.
Yeah that doesn't sound right at all.
My "stats" are based on my 360 S. Are you using an older model?
How does this even begin to make sense in your head? By this reasoning, we should expect the OS in the PS4 and 720 to be ass slow too?
Besides the PS3 hasn't changed much with the speed IIRC and the blades were even faster to load than the current OS on the 360.
Davey Cakes
Member
No excuse for the OS to be as slow as it is.
That said, my experience hasn't been nearly as bad as others have been reporting. This 20+ second thing seems like an exaggeration.
That said, my experience hasn't been nearly as bad as others have been reporting. This 20+ second thing seems like an exaggeration.
man, people really love to blow things out of proportion and sensationalize.
The settings menu is the only thing that takes this long to load, the main home menu apps, the things you will actually use regularly, are pretty quick. everything could be a bit faster though, especially settings. And Nintendo has already said they are looking into it.
But no one will read this, or just ignore it and keep on believing otherwise.
And to those saying that it is the worst videogame OS....really? it is by far the best I have used. I have only gone to the settings menu once or twice since I have had it. And 20 secs is not the end of the world.
what? more incorrect information in this thread.
The settings menu is the only thing that takes this long to load, the main home menu apps, the things you will actually use regularly, are pretty quick. everything could be a bit faster though, especially settings. And Nintendo has already said they are looking into it.
But no one will read this, or just ignore it and keep on believing otherwise.
And to those saying that it is the worst videogame OS....really? it is by far the best I have used. I have only gone to the settings menu once or twice since I have had it. And 20 secs is not the end of the world.
what? more incorrect information in this thread.
ThatObviousUser
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Yeah, the first online Wii game (in NA/JP) was Pokemon Battle Revolution, which was released 12 days after Wii's Japanese launch and seven months after its North American one.
and before that they had mario kart online on the DS, a year before the wii released. And they have been doing online before most systems anyway, all the way back to snes days in Japan.
That would be totally fair, if the Wii U launched seven years ago. That's why we expect things like cross game chat, parties, and online play as well, if you were wondering.
Fox Mulder
Member
No, nintendo doesn't operate in a vacuum.
Version 3.0
Member
Yamauchi left. I always assumed his name as "Executive Director" on all Nintendo titles was a courtesy, but when he left, the old-school philosophy of "making the best product" as a recipe for success left with him. Now I'm convinced that he would never have allowed the poor build quality of some recent hardware, nor the awful user experience of the products that have shipped since he left.
Palette Swap
Member
I hope for the sake of WiiU users it won't go the way of PS360 bloating because at this rate, it will take 3 minutes to load a game 5 years from now. Assuming it's still supported in 5 years of course.
Alex
Member
Youtube in the web browser doesn't seem to work with any HD functionality. It's hardly ideal. Plus with the Youtube redesign it works REALLY, REALLY bad in the Wii U browser (try scrolling your subscriptions, ugh), this can hardly be blamed on Nintendo but it's worth stating.
Netflix loads up slow as sin, but when loaded it's about the same as the PS3's app, which is to say it's pretty sludgy but even on my PC Netflix's app (Win 8) is a little sludgy.
Miiverse is HARDLY instant, especially from within a game. Just tested booting into it from NSMBU it took 17 seconds for all three loading screens to pass on a perfect 40 megabit connection, with DMZ configured for the Wii U. On the plus side, going back it's instant but that is a lot of time for something that's nothing but text and very lo-fi black and white sketches.
superchunk
Member
While it could be improved (especially things that shouldn't even be network related like settings), how long does it take to open the PSN store or youtube/netflix on PS3?
The_Hitcher89
Member
Alex
Member
The eShop on Wii U takes 8 seconds to load... a maintenance page! So I don't know the reality of it yet. I said this above, but once you're into it the eShop runs very well though, unlike the PS3 one which I do think is probably designed with the PS4 in mind because it's just a choppy mess at times.
Yeah, I want some instant-on action on next-gen consoles.
Takamura-San
Member
The 360 dashboard has been bloated over years of updates. The same with the PS3 which was barebones when it came out. They are basically doing more with less with each update. Slowdown is expected unless they change the hardware.
Now the Wii U just launched and is already very slow if not slower that bloated systems that came out 2005 and 2006. Nintendo might optimize the system for the better, it might be faster than light with the update. But, right now that's just an "if".
I don't remember having these issues with the blades when I bought the 360, maybe I remember wrong, but i doubt it.
Clay Davis
Member
you're not wrong. the blades were lightning fast and rarely (never) suffered from any loading issues. the loading problems began with NXE and got worse with each update, but even then it doesn't take as long as my wii u can take to do things like open the eshop or load menus and such.