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[Blueblur1]

Disagree completely. Halo 4 is the Halo 2 of this generation except that it's multiplayer isn't as good. All 343 did was design a competent campaign and make it really pretty. (And that's very literal because Certain Affinity worked on the multiplayer mode; speaking of which...) Halo 4's multiplayer offerings are pathetic with its lack of traditional gametypes (Territories, Assault, 1 Flag CTF, Juggernaut, 3 Plots, etc.), broken custom game settings, and the horrid Spartan Ops mode which consists of a CG film 343 didn't even make themselves and levels composed of re-purposed campaign assets. Then there's the COD-style level mechanic which is a pathetic grasp at being relevant. And the problematic Global Ordnance system which introduces unwanted random elements into each multiplayer match.

If anything, Halo 4 is the worst Halo game.

Edit: I forgot to mention missing features like Campaign Scoring and Saved Films for Campaign and that the online FileShare and screenshot uploading feature still doesn't work more than a month after launch.

 

[Diprosalic]

it's by far the worst in the series.

 

[BlueScrote]

Perhaps instead of

he meant

?

It definitely sounds like the intention was "Halo 4 is the best-selling and fastest-selling.."

 

[Monty Mole]

Perhaps the thread title and/or OP would be a little more informative if it said "Frank O'Connor" rather than just "343". Not a whine btw, just a suggestion.

 

[enzo_gt]

It's a good game, but no. That would be Halo 3 all things considered.

 

[user_nat]

It definitely sounds like the intention was "Halo 4 is the best-selling and fastest-selling.."

Wouldn't best selling mean that it had already outsold every other Halo game? So I doubt it is that.

 

[tonitoni]

I don't agree: prometheans are a bore to fight, the story reads like than fanfiction and it completely squandered any feeling of discovery and exploration after the second level when the useless humans appear and chiefs job is to babysit. Even its strongest point, graphics, lack a lot of polish and detail compared to bungies efforts.

Halo CE > Halo 3 > Halo 2 > ODST > Reach > Halo 4

I just hope that with the extra time to make halo5 343i can at least match bungie in terms of features (campaign scoring, forge, theater, sane website). Also scrap all the additions to multiplayer since halo 3 and explore other direction.

edit: Despite my complaints it is still a great game.

 

[Manp]

i think Reach has the best campaign in the series...

since this seems like a good place like another, you know what i'd like for Halo 5? a 4 players coop campaign with a story truly built around blue team (John, Kelly, Linda and Fred).

make it happen 343i!

 

[Haunted]

Second best.

 

[The Bookerman]

I like Halo 4 but wasn't overly fond of Halo 1-3 and reach.

 

[Huff]

I haven't played the multiplayer but the campaign got to be boring and a chore to get through. Haven't replayed it since

 

[Diprosalic]

I just hope that with the extra time to make halo5 343i can at least match bungie in terms of features (campaign scoring, forge, theater, sane website). Also scrap all the additions to multiplayer since halo 3 and explore other direction.

it's already quite clear that 343 doesn't or didn't want to get halo. 3 and Reach were probably my most played games this generation and i dropped 4 after 4-5h. so did my entire friendlist. i ain't making that mistake again.

 

[Recall]

Reach is my favourite multiplayer and ODST my favourite campaign.

It's a good job 343 thinks their game is best, why would they say otherwise about their own product?

 

[McNei1y]

I would agree with that.

 

[ramb0211]

It's definitely the best Halo game at this point after its release (CE excluded of course). People seem to forget that Halo 2, 3, and Reach's multiplayer were all completely revamped half a year or more after they came out because people hated them so much. Halo 4 has a weapon or two that needs to be tweaked, and some map spawns need to be tuned. In that sense they certainly did a better job than Bungie ever has.

 

[Blueblur1]

Actually, I shouldn't have compared Halo 4 to Halo 2. Halo 2 wasn't that pretty and had a way better (and replayable) campaign. The only valid comparison is that Halo 4 is mess of a game was assembled in a hurry much like Halo 2.

 

[dollartaco]

Perhaps instead of

he meant

?

Yeah. I think so.

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

I don't think so, I stopped playing and have not finished it yet (I will though, I promise Frankie), tells you something I guess. I swallowed up ODST and 3, my two favourites.

I think that's a great thing about the Halo series, there's something in it for many different types of FPS fans. I thought ODST wasted the opportunity to do something interesting with the different approach it took (can't blame Bungie much, since ODST started as a simple expansion with a skeleton crew development team), but it's great that there are people who love it more then any other Halo game.

 

[AkimbO_Arcana]

If by 'best' they mean 'worst', then I have to agree. Still a good game though.

 

[Haunted]

Perhaps instead of
he meant
?

I assume that's what happened, yes.

 

[Kritz]

It was certainly the most fun I've had with Halo since the original in Singleplayer content. Though I'm not entirely sure why, because I certainly agree with some of the complaints against it. Specifically the new enemies were never that fun to fight.

But, y'know, ODST never grabbed me. It was too similar to Halo 3 - it was style over substance, in a very real sense. The style was great, I agree, but it wasn't what I was looking for. Reach was kind of the same - I just didn't care about Halo anymore. It was fun to add Elites back into the picture, something 3 and ODST were in desperate need for, but I just didn't give a shit. And I didn't go into the game with that mentality, either. I just sat down, finished the game in about two sittings, and wondered if I'd just become too jaded to play the series.

So I don't know what it is about 4 that I enjoyed so much. It could be that the game feels like a love letter - it encapsulates a range of Halo moments, adds twists of its own, brings you back into the familiar dynamic of "this spaceship's on fire oh jesus - oh wait look at that there's an elite with his back turned I bet I can sneak up on this fucker YEAH KILLED HIM OH NO EVERYONE SEES ME THROW GRENADES SHOOT MOTHERFUCKERS YEAH". And you know what? The combat felt great. They had the most pistol-ass-pistol the series has seen since the first, the assault rifle was LOUD and meaty even if it was still a peashooter. You could fuckin DUMP the plasma pistol into dudes, so many of the weapons were just exactly right.

I'd keep writing, but I'm at the point where I'm replacing thoughts with capital letters, so I'll just say that I loved the environments, I loved the jpegs backgrounds (which is not something I normally say), and I love so much of that game.

I don't think I could rank these games. Well, I could, but. Ah, fuck it.

1 > 2, 3, 4 > Reach, ODST

Commas signify no preference.

... man halo 1 was great.

 

[Doogington]

I know they don't want to or can't really admit their mistakes, but really now?

 

[dark_prinny]

I couldn´t agree more.

 

[AkimbO_Arcana]

It's the Avatar of video games.

That's a bit too harsh.

 

[MikeE21286]

I think Halo 4 is a good game, and maybe it is the best in the series.

But c'mon....Innovation in storytelling? The story in this game is batshit insane.

 

[Ein Bear]

It's a good game, but by far the worst in the series IMO. Big step down in the quality of the AI, the size/openness of the levels, audio and storytelling.

Though I play these games for the SP.

 

[Flame Lord]

People seem to forget that Halo 2, 3, and Reach's multiplayer were all completely revamped half a year or more after they came out because people hated them so much..

Completely revamped? The only thing I remember getting changed in Halo 3 was the melee, and in Reach I just remember armor lock getting toned down and bleed through being added(and then removed), and I liked both before either of the updates. I joined in Halo 2 late so I don't know anything about that.

 

[T-0800]

Only Halo game I don't own. Rented it and played a couple of hours and lost interest in buying it.

 

[-PXG-]

Go ahead, you can think that. Still doesn't make it true

 

[mokeyjoe]

It's the only Halo which kept me interested in the SP enough to finish it, so by default I guess it is - although it's never going to have the same impact on the wider world as the first.

MP is less clear though. I like some stuff, other stuff not so much. On balance it's probably about the same but I'm not really big on MP anyway so it doesn't sway me one way or the other.

 

[Sulik2]

Halo 4 is my favorite Halo game. I think they knocked it out of the park.

Also, what is with the Halo 2 campaign love? Ithad the worst campaign of any Halo game by far, why do people keep saying it was good? The story elements of the Arbiter were cool, but gameplay wise that campaign was bad.

 

[Daedalux]

Halo 4 is pretty good, but not the best by any means.

For me the best Halo was the first one, it had that new series feeling, like it smelled fresh, maybe it's just me.

 

[McBradders]

Innovated in storytelling? Really?

A competent Halo game was made that, graphics aside, was completely unremarkable. I honestly think it's the least memorable Halo game so far. I can look back at Halo, Halo 2, Halo 3, Reach and ODST and remember cool moments. I can only recall with any clarity one moment in Halo 4 and that is considerable bummer because it wasn't a particularly standout moment.

I don't even want to get into how messed up multiplayer is or what an utter disaster Spartan Ops is.

 

[TemplaerDude]

Campaign wise, the only thing I care about, comes proooooooobably last place for me.

 

[C4Lukins]

Singlepayer I would have to say yes. Multii is not up to Bungie standardsl

 

[Jackpot]

All I know is that my casual gamer flatmates have returned to Halo 3 deathmatch despite doing their best to make the Halo 4 maps any fun to play in local multiplayer.

 

[Spawnling]

Completely disagree. Halo 4 was a step back in the series. It's average at best.

This game doesn't hold my attention. I struggle to care to find time to enjoy it. The number one reason I played the previous halo games in the past was with friends and wifh the community.

I feel no sense of community when playing this game. Maybe I'm not posting in the right sign up threads. I dislike the core additions that changed the halo formula. It's too far astray from the original formula, I can't even tell if I'm playing halo anymore.

I'm just another guy with an opinion. I thought halo 4 was a complete step back in the wrong direction. What we're playing now, should have been the beta.

 

[Sapphire Dreams]

Halo 4 may not be the best Halo but I'll still rank it above Halo 2 and ODST and it is certainly better than most FPS games out there.

 

[Plywood]

It's the Avatar of video games.

Hey now, I liked Avatar.

 

[Beermeister]

"Halo CE is the best game in the series".

Fixed.

 

[Tensketch]

Oh in regards to multiplayer, it's a bad sign when players are sick of the choice of maps and waiting for new ones in the first week the game is out.

Seriously, the amount of maps in that game was awful. If it was a marketing ploy to make people want to buy map packs, it's a bad move. I got the map pass with my special edition and I havent even bothered playing the new maps that came out in december.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

Said the dev who made this game.

 

[Lagunamov]

I agree.

 

[rezuth]

First halo game I didn't hate, so yeah.

 

[Double]

I played the campaign through heroic with my mate. Was definitely the best Halo campaign for me to date.

Haven't touched pvp multiplayer since Reach, where it just was kinda bad.

 

[BlueScrote]

i think Reach has the best campaign in the series...

since this seems like a good place like another, you know what i'd like for Halo 5? a 4 players coop campaign with a story truly built around blue team (John, Kelly, Linda and Fred).

make it happen 343i!

Given that the core titles have all but ignored the other SII's, I wouldn't get your hopes up. Also the current Expanded Fiction author Karen Traviss has ignored the S2/3's on Onyx in favor of building up the Infinity and Osman.

 

[Waaghals]

Halo 4 is a great game, but it is not quite open or fully featured enough to be considered the best.
It is like a mix between Halo 2 and Reach in terms of size, except the Halo 2 parts are actually good.

I'm disappointed in Spartan Ops, it would have been better with a proper horde mode, as I am a sucker for those. Or, alternatively, they could have made only one, good, unique 20 minute mission for each episode rather than five times 10 minutes of recycled material.

 

[PnCIa]

They got the "feeling", in terms of weapons and movement, right from the start which is a pretty big thing for me.
But the singleplayer is lacking when it comes to the levels themselves. Putting a big metal door that cant be opened once passed between every combat arena was the worst thing ever. Totally breaks the feeling of the levels.

 

[gdt]

I loved the SP. Dunno if its better than Reach or 3, but it was certainly up there. Have no opinion on the MP. Wish it had FireFight though :/.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Nope.
ODST > CE >>> Reach > Halo 3 > Halo 4 >> Halo 2