NemesisPrime
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Xbox has had more exclusives this gen. Fact.
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VGLeaks: PlayStation 4 "Orbis" Roadmap
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Xbox has had more exclusives this gen. Fact.
Pretty much how I feel.
Whilst I think Sony will undoubtedly be releasing another Uncharted, Gran Turismo and God of War (it only makes sense considering they're huge successes), but it's good to know that some of their studios have been busy at work on new IPs. It's the chance to establish new brands with consumers.
I believe there's Ready at Dawn, GG, Santa Monica and MM who are already working on new IP. And then there are the other studios who are busy at work too. I think a staggered release schedule is best for the first year. They can debut the PS4 with a new IP. Then continue in the first year with another one or two new IP before capping it off with either GT6 or UC4. That would be ideal really.
Bloody Rare. What a joke. I don't even take them seriously anymore. I can't be bothered to get excited to know they'll be making anything. LH aren't much better either.
I look forward to whatever Epic and Turn 10 are cooking. Next generation Forza will be amazing. I am hoping 343i will make a showing. Surely, there should be a sneak peek at a certain game.
pieatorium
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There aren't hats big enough to fit all the money required to exclusive something like COD or GTA these days. Even the second teir sellers like Bethesda RPG's and Ass Creed eI would find highly unlikely to be xclusived.
If theres series that will be monyhatted it would be stuff like Bioshock, Mass Effect, Borderlands, Crysis (or new IP's from that level) imo.
Probably a bunch of smaller stuff too like how Nintendo locked up Bayonetta I could see Sony or MS going for stuff like Deus Ex, The Witcher or Darksiders.
Graphics Horse
Member
That project was a disaster but it doesn't mean they had no success with Insomniac's games or Little Big Planet.
BloodMoney
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God, thanks for reminding me of the Rockstar Xbox bullshit with GTA IV.
MS Employee: "Why cultivate a new creative studio when we can just buy additional time release content for a multi-plat game?"
MS Boss: "Great idea, you need a raise!"
MS Employee: "Why cultivate a new creative studio when we can just buy additional time release content for a multi-plat game?"
MS Boss: "Great idea, you need a raise!"
If Durango can give players the ability to record gameplay sessions with voice commentary through Kinect 2.0 and upload it to their XBL Profile Social page or whatever, I think it can really open things up for the community. I have no idea what they'll come up with, but this is the same company that popularized achievements, which, for better or worse, changed the way most people play/buy games. Microsoft's gotta have something to influence multiplatform game purchases one way or another.
Karak
Member
Yes they were and they are not the only ones. Just like Sony. Also MS seems to have a much more flexible program at the start(3-4 years) of their console release when it comes to features, game type, and so forth, than they do later. A smaller company or one wanting to make a name for itself sees some boons going with 1 company.
Tools
Finances
Dev time
Possible assistance in advertising
Sony and MS both.
Although I'm going to end up buying both consoles, given I was rooting for PS4 (as an underdog), if the power calculations are true then, 'I-am-disappoint'. Then again, PS3 was supposed to be leagues ahead of 360 because Cell which at the end of the day end up helping RSX to compensate for the Xenos could attain. If in practice the difference is around 5%, I guess it's easy to swallow. but double that and doubts set in.
I guess for me it'll be XB3 first >:'( and PS4 after a few price drops when it reaches $200 (if I don't just give in and buy one on launch day). Personal melt down has begun.
I guess for me it'll be XB3 first >:'( and PS4 after a few price drops when it reaches $200 (if I don't just give in and buy one on launch day). Personal melt down has begun.
Second party. Also Gears of War was sort of boom i don't think there will be any boom like that in close future unless they will change something from game design perspective.
BloodMoney
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I hope so, COD is garbage. The death of a genre i grew up loving. Now its all auto-aim Micheal Bay turds.
INsomniac has been iffy this gen but I get what you are trying to say..
Yea that was a big meltdown for people with GTA 4 going 3rd party+deals. Cost MS around 100 million I think. After that Rockstar said they weren't doing that again iirc. That was years ago so they might have had a change of heart.
lol.
pieatorium
Member
Doom 4 and Half Life 3 are coming yo
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Maybe Microsoft will publish Cyberpunk 2077?
MeBecomingI
Member
Um, so basically from what I've tried to summarize from that last few pages and the multitude of other threads is that the rumours and intentional leading on from certain people is that the next Xbox will be a tad more powerful than the new PlayStation (but that changes daily, it seems) and everyone expecting Microsoft to dwindle on exclusive games will be surprised come E3.
Form what we've seen this generation, Sony can't market their first party games worth a damn (which they seem more inclined to rely on than third party exclusives) so they actually sell what they should be. Microsoft will likely continue to grab the attention of Activision for exclusive CoD content and the next Xbox will likely get the better ports.
It is going to be interesting if any of this pans out. Sony gonna fold! /sarcasm I love the start of a new generation.
Form what we've seen this generation, Sony can't market their first party games worth a damn (which they seem more inclined to rely on than third party exclusives) so they actually sell what they should be. Microsoft will likely continue to grab the attention of Activision for exclusive CoD content and the next Xbox will likely get the better ports.
It is going to be interesting if any of this pans out. Sony gonna fold! /sarcasm I love the start of a new generation.
Dude seriously?
Kun Aguero
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It's still all rumours, I've not seen one of these supposed "in the know" posters back anything up with hard facts/details as to what the final consoles will end up being.
Allonym
There should be more tampons in gaming
Launch titles in my opinion should be established franchises or IPs that would garner wide appeal and attention. For me, it makes much more sense to launch Uncharted 4, something that can cause casuals and the hardcore to migrate to the PS4 and something like Killzone 4. This would give the series a final attempt to gain the large acclaim of the CoD and BF series of the world. New IPs are something to be reserved when a console has a good installed base. This would presumably lead to higher sales that wouldn't be present at launch. But that's just my opinion on the subject
Can y'all feel da heat? It's meltdown just from rumours.. just from rumours. Come E3, I'd cease to exist as the core of my essence sublimates.
Evolution_1ne
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I'd give anything to see that piece of shit franchise fuck off to XBox and take the fucking fan base with them, lose bout 10 million sales at the most insert *Imokwiththisjpeghere*
would be a dream come true
Karak
Member
Exactly. Specs are not final till they are mother fucking final.
BloodMoney
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Amen to that, hopefully they don't go the way of Crysis 2
Who am i kidding, i have faith in id and Valve
You sound bitter.
NoLootBoxDev
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I cant say 100% if that true, but I guess I should take your word.
Evolution_1ne
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ahhh yes the myth that Sony exclusives don't sell, E3 is going to be amazing
lol dude trust me, unless all the first and second party devs of sony have been sitting on their asses for 2 years or more..you won't have to worry about exclusives. Don't underestimate either company. I actually expect some real good exclusives from Japan for Sony as well.
ps: Sony exclusives do sell..and sell well
haha yea I know what you mean. The beauty of a start of a new gen.
I wouldn't worry too much about 5-10% difference because we have yet to see what that power might be used for right? and devs like SSM, GG and ND will make anything look amazing lol
Sony doesnt need to buy third-party exclusives, they have enough IP's.
Uncharted 4
InFAMOUS 3
Killzone 4
God of War 4
Gran Turismo 6
LittleBigPlaned 3
Resistance 4
Ratchet & Clank franchise
Jak & Dexter franchise
The Last of Us 2 (you know its gonna get a sequel)
And im sure we'll get some new IP's.
Uncharted 4
InFAMOUS 3
Killzone 4
God of War 4
Gran Turismo 6
LittleBigPlaned 3
Resistance 4
Ratchet & Clank franchise
Jak & Dexter franchise
The Last of Us 2 (you know its gonna get a sequel)
And im sure we'll get some new IP's.
Allonym
There should be more tampons in gaming
I'm lost. Rumors I've been reading suggest that Orbis has a more powerful GPU, much faster RAM (although half as much as Durango but presumably the OS won't have nearly the footprint of Durango's W8 OS) so I'm not sure what everyone is up in arms about. The Orbis is also sporting less cores for it's CPU but at higher clock speeds individually. It's architecture, more akin to a PC should also, presumably, lead to easier development. So why are we worried?
statham
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COD fans buy alot more then just COD.
gundamkyoukai
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They should near final that is for certain don't think they can make any big changes to them .
Still a few changes in clock speed and such can make a difference .
Are we talking about first party only ?
Evolution_1ne
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COD single handedly fucked the entire FPS genre into oblivion
bitter?....yeah, times a million
*sigh*....I know *facepalm*
Karak
Member
BloodMoney
Banned
OH SNAP!
All those numbers. I really hope Sony and MS will go for new IPs.
Karak
Member
true that. I have a good deal of "professionals" many in the game industry on various friend list and many of them have every COD game right next to the games gamers respect more.Amen.
Correct all the way through.lol dude trust me, unless all the first and second party devs of sony have been sitting on their asses for 2 years or more..you won't have to worry about exclusives. Don't underestimate either company. I actually expect some real good exclusives from Japan for Sony as well.
ps: Sony exclusives do sell..and sell well
haha yea I know what you mean. The beauty of a start of a new gen.
I wouldn't worry too much about 5-10% difference because we have yet to see what that power might be used for right? and devs like SSM, GG and ND will make anything look amazing lol
If a '5-10%' difference is what we're talking about - if it is possible to put a single general-case figure on the difference between these two systems, which I doubt - there's really not much to talk about.
However I would be impressed if the things Proelite listed managed to overcome some of the deficiencies he listed to carry Durango over PS4 in any sort universal general case sense.
I think it's more realistic to expect that either could be plus or minus the other to (likely not hugely significant) degrees depending on the approach and shape of the software going onto the systems.
But there are still some holes in the picture to fill in.
I also think there's a bit of gameplaying going on with this Super DAE stuff. It's all very strange.
However I would be impressed if the things Proelite listed managed to overcome some of the deficiencies he listed to carry Durango over PS4 in any sort universal general case sense.
I think it's more realistic to expect that either could be plus or minus the other to (likely not hugely significant) degrees depending on the approach and shape of the software going onto the systems.
But there are still some holes in the picture to fill in.
I also think there's a bit of gameplaying going on with this Super DAE stuff. It's all very strange.
BloodMoney
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Gone are the days of clan matches with the original Couterstrike. [cW]MrOats
THE:MILKMAN
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I would love to see what these systems look like.
Uno Venova
Banned
Resistance is done.
MeBecomingI
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Oh lighten up. I'm just having some fun and I've since clarified. Yes, they do sell. And I agree with you.
lol dude trust me, unless all the first and second party devs of sony have been sitting on their asses for 2 years or more..you won't have to worry about exclusives. Don't underestimate either company. I actually expect some real good exclusives from Japan for Sony as well.
ps: Sony exclusives do sell..and sell well
Yes, I know they do. They wouldn't continue making them if they didn't. With that said, you caught me before I clarified my point. They do sell, but not as much as I think they could (sans Gran Turismo, God of War and Uncharted, really) to drive the hardware they need to. Launch time changes things a bit, but over the long term we've seen Sony pump out so many that they can't seem to find a focus. Killzone certainly comes to mind when I think of big budget release not really lighting up the sales charts to a significant level. It obviously sells enough to warrant more, thanks to legs but I'm just making a point that first party stuff against a few big name third party stuff from Microsoft would be interesting.
I fully expect Sony to come out with some big name games, given the studios have been relatively quiet recently. Likewise with Microsoft.
Gemüsepizza
Member
I am still not convinced about Microsoft's rumored first party strategy. Yes, they will probably release a few new exclusives at launch, to attract new clients / get people to buy their console. But will they support them if they aren't as successful as Halo or Gears of War? And will they continue to release exclusives later? I somehow fear that they will reduce their output later when "enough" people have a new Xbox. But we will see, maybe there are a few titles which will blow me away.
Rare is dead.
shadowsdarknes
Member
Then you as well as I know more about the newer console than 95% of this board. That patent confirms two GPUs with separate memory pools.
Going by current rumors that leaves us with a single chip with two GPUs a main and discrete, most likely a steamroller CPU with 4 cores, two memory pools with one of the pools containing 4GB GDDR5 for graphics processing, and the other pool is currently unknown but what is known and described in the patent is this GPU is for OS purposes and that the OS won't utilize the GPUs full capacity in RAM. That spare RAM as described in the patent can possibly be used for game development because it doesn't have any specific uses at the moment.
Thanks for confirming it was filed by SCE.
Is Super DAE the one that apparently had a real devkit a while back? There's no way MS lost track of a next-gen devkit unless he's their official viral marketer for this gen.
insomniac may be done with it, but it's a sony IP. i seriously doubt sony wants to put money behind any more resistance games at this point, but it's not dead.
Kazuma Kiryu
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my two cents about these franchises
gundamkyoukai
Member
I don't think people have to worry about Sony making new IPs next gen .
Of course we going to get sequels to big games like UC , GOW , GT , KZ but this gen they made a fair amount .
Talking about disc base only we have UC , LBP , HR , Lair , HS , Infamous , TLOU , 2 Kart games , Folklore , WKC , DS plus a few more .
Of course we going to get sequels to big games like UC , GOW , GT , KZ but this gen they made a fair amount .
Talking about disc base only we have UC , LBP , HR , Lair , HS , Infamous , TLOU , 2 Kart games , Folklore , WKC , DS plus a few more .
BloodMoney
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Any more info you want to spill?