arglebargle
Member
i wont be around my wii until tomorrow so i can check then. at a guess maybe like 73?
huh, i havent used those characters much at all. melia some, but rikki annoys the hell out of me so i havent used him. ill give that a try.
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LTTP(?) Xenoblade Chronicles
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i wont be around my wii until tomorrow so i can check then. at a guess maybe like 73?
huh, i havent used those characters much at all. melia some, but rikki annoys the hell out of me so i havent used him. ill give that a try.
Ah, that'd be why. I don't do a lot of the side quests, and even if I accept one I don't go out of my way to actually complete it. If I complete it along my way, great, otherwise I just ignore it and move on to the next area.
If I did a full on completionest run I would probably get bored of the game and never complete it like some others, so I'm just going to keep plugging on.
Agreed, even thou I haven't played it yet, I can tell they are great developers and they should focus 100% on their next game.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
LOL
I never touched Melia until that fight. Made it easy. Your level should be high enough for it to be easy for you as well. Just use Melia to focus on the elements attacking you before you focus on the main boss
You bringing that up made me realize there was another Monolift soft game I wanted to play for the DS
Soma Bringer Trailer
Another Nintendo no show... Never got a US release
I started using Melia late game when
I wanted to finish the Colony 6 sidequest and they threw Demon King Dragonia at me. I was way under his level and the only way I could even hit him was to use Melia, Riki, and Sharla to blast it with ether attacks.
Game is very satisfying. I recently saw a lot of people put it on their end of year lists and was really intrigued. Then I saw that the price was steadily rising up on ebay and realized I should probably get it before it was too high. Started playing it new years eve and im about 20 hours in a this point. Currently I'm leveling up for a boss fight i keep getting absolutely destroyed in. Game is really fun though and gets better as you learn new abilities. The monado is soooo baddasss. (think power glove). Anyhow the thing that I really like about this game is all the things you can do, the tons of weapons, secret boss fights and rare shit they can drop. Some of it actually resembles Phantasy Star Online to me as there are just so many collectables.
Was just gonna ask the same thing.
Must be Wii Remote must be awful for camara control right?
Use a classic controller. I've been playing with a PS3 controller and I imagine that it would be a nightmare without the dual analogue sticks just because the camera will go pretty crazy during battles if you let it.
Also, turn off all that automatic angle correction jazz in the game's options and just manually orient it as needed. It's so annoying when it auto corrects to some crappy angle.
arglebargle
Member
i am playing with the classic controller pro. some people (i believe jay, a few posts above us is one of them) say other configurations work but i havent tried them.
Well I found this new on eBay for $60 so I paid the $10 premium over MSRP (since I can't find it anywhere). Hope it's good! I wasn't HUGE on Last Story, but I really dug the MMO-lite aspect of FFXII so hopefully this clicks with me. If not I'm sure I could sell if for about what I paid.
fabfour64xx
Banned
GOTY 2010, 2011 and 2012!
malingenie
Member
Just got my ass handed to me by
. Will have to do some side quests or level up some arts. Those adds he calls are a bit too much and my party gauge is at zero. Really enjoying this game, 11 hours in 3 days damn!
Xord
I...really should get back into playing this game at some point. I stopped somewhere in Sword Valley, where it felt like basically any enemy group that contained a Unique Monster could just wear down any party I tried to throw at them. I'm really bad at keeping my party gauge charged for revives, apparently.
Still, aside from the wall I've hit I really enjoy playing this. The only negative for me as far as the in-game systems go is inventory management. Comparing items to what you have equipped feels needlessly cumbersome, since just looking over stats at a glance always takes equipped gems into account too. If they had a way to streamline the equipment process I'd probably feel compelled to actually upgrade stuff more often than I do.
Still, aside from the wall I've hit I really enjoy playing this. The only negative for me as far as the in-game systems go is inventory management. Comparing items to what you have equipped feels needlessly cumbersome, since just looking over stats at a glance always takes equipped gems into account too. If they had a way to streamline the equipment process I'd probably feel compelled to actually upgrade stuff more often than I do.
Just made it to Frontier Village and got Riki. I didn't realize how strong Dunban was, I've been using Reyn and Sharla all along. Trying out Melia, too, but we'll see how Sharla and Dunban do for now.
I have so many games that I'm just trying to do the main stuff. A shame since there's so much extra content.
I have so many games that I'm just trying to do the main stuff. A shame since there's so much extra content.
StreetsAhead
Member
Just finished the first battle after the prologue-thing last night.
Enjoying it so far and hoping it lives up to my expectations.
Enjoying it so far and hoping it lives up to my expectations.
Similar to me. I got to Frontier Village, but just continued some 2 hours from there. Since then I have not continued. Time is a thief. I have this huge backlog of games, even going back to finishing that copy of Wind Waker I have laying around...
Xenoblade is one of Wii's finest though, so I will probably get into it once again over time.
Darackutny
Junior Member
I've been dying for a jrpg for the longest time and was extremely disappointed by Xenoblade. Sure, the world is vast and all, but I guess I'm so old school that I couldn't get over not being able to go into random houses and stealing from treasure chests, that kind of thing.
Also, it was like they didn't put any effort into keeping me from guessing the plot twists. Major spoilers ahead:
Looking back, I don't mind being completely in the dark about certain characters, like how it was in Heavy Rain. Sure, even though I did feel somewhat cheated, the shock element was more satisfying than having to grind for hours upon hours then to find out what I already knew.
Also, it was like they didn't put any effort into keeping me from guessing the plot twists. Major spoilers ahead:
Yes, I did guess that Fiora was alive, because you never really see her die. Plus, it took the characters like twenty seconds to get over her. You can also smell Dickson's betrayal a mile away. Was I supposed to be surprised by this when he mutters to himself, "Everything is going according to kaikaku!"?!?!
Looking back, I don't mind being completely in the dark about certain characters, like how it was in Heavy Rain. Sure, even though I did feel somewhat cheated, the shock element was more satisfying than having to grind for hours upon hours then to find out what I already knew.
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
Did u play Blue dragon for the 360? Wot did u think about it?
Darackutny
Junior Member
Just the demo or something. I was turned off by dragons sticking out of the asses of the characters. I hope that doesn't sound like I'm being picky. =p
I'm 99% certain that I'll never finish this game. Picked it up at US launch, still only a fraction of the way in, and I'm not even trying to do sidequests. Too old for the time investment of 100-hour sweeping JRPG epics now though I have truly enjoyed the hours I was able to put in
though I have truly enjoyed the hours I was able to put inFreeMufasa
Junior Member
Yea i remember da demo. Wasn't a good representation of da game. Based on ur description. I'd think u'd really like it!
Darackutny
Junior Member
Oh? Please do elaborate.
arglebargle
Member
i didnt play the demo so i cant comment on the differences between it and the full game. i played blue dragon all the way through, though so there is that. my opinion is that it is a good solid standard jrpg. it really feels like a 16bit game with much better graphics. overworld, towns, shopping for new weapons, grinding if you want it. it even has the stereotypical annoying character (now made more annoying with the advent of voice acting). if you are a fan of the genre its worth playing, but i dont think it will ever top best games of all time lists.
Dark Octave
Banned
I wonder how much a sealed copy will go for in 10 years.
terrisus
Member
I've had a really difficult time trying to get into this. I mean, I want to love it - the exploration and everything is great, both outside and in towns and everything. The main problem is, I really don't like the battle system. And every time I play it, I can't help but think, "This game would be so amazing if only it had a traditional turn-based battle system." I just really don't like Action-RPGs.
I had gotten like 4 hours into it, and hit a couple of annoying groups of enemies and just eventually got to one that I didn't feel like dealing with anymore, and just haven't touched the game in months. I tried to pick back up the file the other day, but still just don't feel like dealing with those enemies. Might just try starting a whole new file and seeing if that helps. Not sure if it will or not though, since the main problem will still remain, the annoying action-based battles.
I had gotten like 4 hours into it, and hit a couple of annoying groups of enemies and just eventually got to one that I didn't feel like dealing with anymore, and just haven't touched the game in months. I tried to pick back up the file the other day, but still just don't feel like dealing with those enemies. Might just try starting a whole new file and seeing if that helps. Not sure if it will or not though, since the main problem will still remain, the annoying action-based battles.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
you can make it look beautiful with a decent rig and the dolphin emulator.
I'm surprised anybody prefers turn-based systems at this point. With all of the faster paced combat out there (Star Ocean 3 was a lot of fun IMO) it makes turn-based feel slow and dull. I recently played through Lunar 1 / Lunar 2 and the combat got incredibly repetitive and boring about half way through each of those. With action RPG's you don't get that, and this combat system is kind of like a hybrid anyway.
Agreed. Here's a couple examples of 4x AA / 16X anisotropic :
You need more than a decent rig to run it at this level, though. Dolphin is extremely CPU intensive, so if you want to run it at max settings you're looking at like an i7 or above at 4 - 4.2 ghz.
terrisus
Member
Yeah, I've honestly just always preferred the slower process of turn-based games, I just never feel like I can enjoy myself in Action-RPGs, and, even all the way back to games like the Seiken Densetsu games and Soul Blazer Illusion of Gaia and such, Action-RPGs have just never appealed to me. And it always disappoints me when I see a game, like this, which looks fun otherwise, only to find out "Oh... It's an Action-RPG." Try as I might, I just really don't like them. And while I realize plenty of people do, I just wish there were more traditional turn-based RPGs still coming out these days to balance things out a bit.
slick7rick
Member
i wish i could find this game it looks so damn awesome
it looks so damn awesomeThe MMO-like 'not turn-based but not action either' combat system is why I haven't touched Xenoblade since the 10-hr (or was it 20, I forget) mark. I don't find it compelling gameplay - it's just... there. It doesn't play like a fascinating turn-based JRPG with intricate subsystems, nor does it play like a good action game. It tries to mix both in a manner that doesn't appeal to me at all. Now, if they had made it into a real action RPG with local co-op (like.... Soma Bringer), I probably would have been more into it.
Also, there is nothing intrinsically slow about turn-based combat. You could have instantaneous responses to commands/inputs. It's true that I don't like devs' obsessions with long slow character animations.
Teletraan1
Banned
I am just finishing up Xenogears again and I think think I am going to try this one again next. I got around 10-15 hours into this one and the combat system wasnt for me. This game just seems like MMO lite combat but I didnt care for FFXII's combat at first either. I can play Xenogears every few years for the rest of my life and never get bored of entering all those deathblows.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
I've owned this since 2010, but I couldn't ever get past the 20 hour mark or so. It had a lot of stuff that I liked, but the characters and story weren't really doing it for me. I got up to the part where they introduced the furry little critter guy in his forest village and just never went back.
Dark Octave
Banned
How is this game on Dolphin? Any audio glitches or less than perfect performance issues?
While that's true, I think the real twist there is that Alvis - who interacts with Dickson a lot - wasn't a bad guy. He's very much built up as someone doing *something* sneaky behind the scenes. Did you get that, too?
Last time I played it, it was nearly perfect. Occasionally the voice track would become distorted during cutscenes, but other than that, it was fine. Bear in mind it's a very CPU-intensive game; my 4.3GHz i5 barely keeps a stable 30FPS.
It's not perfect, but it's close. The game itself runs perfectly, but as Wichu stated it comes down to how beefy your PC is. If you run the game with LLE audio then you have no audio problems to worry about, but only if you can maintain a stable 30 FPS. If you run HLE, it's a bit more forgiving, but you need a patched Dolphin client to fix some problems with HLE itself.
Aside from that, you can set the graphics settings to whatever your CPU can handle. I've gone close to 40 hours now without a single crash or glitch.
As an added bonus, Dolphin lets you use save states (still save your game normally though) so as soon as I start up the emulator I can just hit F1 and skip all of the Nintendo BIOS, loading screen and loading the save game stuff and just be right back where I left off
Edit: An example of how resource intensive it is. I have the following:
AMD Phenom II Black OC'd to 3.7 ghz
16 GB DDR3 ram
Geforce GTX 670
64 GB SSD HDD
And I can only play this game at 2.5x internal resolution with AA off and anti at 4x with a stable framerate throughout the game (cut scenes included). It tends to dip a bit down to about 24 FPS in combat, but otherwise stays at 30 FPS. The screenshots I took earlier, my PC can't run that at any higher than 18 FPS just running around.
So, yeah, CPU is your bottleneck here. That's the downside to most emulators - much more intensive on resources than running it naively. Still looks better than running it on the wii, though, even without everything cranked
Dark Octave
Banned
Thanks for the info you guys. I'm running an i7 so hopefully I should be able to run everything max or near? I have to learn how to set up Dolphin now I guess. Pretty exciting stuff.It's not perfect, but it's close. The game itself runs perfectly, but as Wichu stated it comes down to how beefy your PC is. If you run the game with LLE audio then you have no audio problems to worry about, but only if you can maintain a stable 30 FPS. If you run HLE, it's a bit more forgiving, but you need a patched Dolphin client to fix some problems with HLE itself.
Aside from that, you can set the graphics settings to whatever your CPU can handle. I've gone close to 40 hours now without a single crash or glitch.
As an added bonus, Dolphin lets you use save states (still save your game normally though) so as soon as I start up the emulator I can just hit F1 and skip all of the Nintendo BIOS, loading screen and loading the save game stuff and just be right back where I left off
Edit: An example of how resource intensive it is. I have the following:
AMD Phenom II Black OC'd to 3.7 ghz
16 GB DDR3 ram
Geforce GTX 670
64 GB SSD HDD
And I can only play this game at 2.5x internal resolution with AA off and anti at 4x with a stable framerate throughout the game (cut scenes included). It tends to dip a bit down to about 24 FPS in combat, but otherwise stays at 30 FPS. The screenshots I took earlier, my PC can't run that at any higher than 18 FPS just running around.
So, yeah, CPU is your bottleneck here. That's the downside to most emulators - much more intensive on resources than running it naively. Still looks better than running it on the wii, though, even without everything cranked
Well if you're really interested there's a fan translation out there. But the game really isn't all that great. It's a really shallow action rpg with a really mediocre story. I sorta understand why Nintendo never bothered localizing it.
Dolphin can be a bit daunting, but I can post my settings if you're interested and you can kind of tweak from there. There are a number of guides on setting up Dolphin for Xenoblade on the interwebs, though.
Dark Octave
Banned
Yes I would very much appreciate that. Thank you.