You do realize that patches can be 1.5gb too right? With a 30gb data cap you shouldn't be autodownloading anything. You need to manage and track your data usage like a mofo.
Still your fault not Sony's. A toggle with different options for people with data caps would be nice but wouldn't do a damn thing in your situation. consider yourself lucky it didn't download a 15gb trial.
So then it is a separate option. It certainly wasn't there when I signed up for PS+ eons ago.
See, this is the thing (and why I don't accept the criticism here): why should I be forced to disable a useful feature because they have decided to shoehorn everything in that way? A patch is something that I want. A beta to an overrated series that outstayed its welcome last generation isn't.
If auto-downloads means everything or nothing, it's a design fault by Sony and has nothing to do with my ISP.
I dont know how it was in the begining, i first got PS+ a few months after it first came out. But yeah, there is an option for it now at leastSo then it is a separate option. It certainly wasn't there when I signed up for PS+ eons ago.
Is this excuse number 5? Just accept that you made a mistake.
You've dug a deep enough hole.
Eons ago? Shouldn't you have gotten other unwanted software before this then?So then it is a separate option. It certainly wasn't there when I signed up for PS+ eons ago.
He said it in a way that suggests that he CAN'T get better internet, guys. That's obviously not an option.
Pfft, not at all. I've made my reason clear:
Good user interface design should remove the need for the user to make decisions. They shouldn't need to over-think or hunt out features. If there's an option to turn it off (that appeared long after I signed up), it should be off by default. I set "auto-updates" on when I got PS+ years ago. I did not sign up for "auto-downloads".
Pfft, not at all. I've made my reason clear:
Good user interface design should remove the need for the user to make decisions.
Pfft, not at all. I've made my reason clear:
Good user interface design should remove the need for the user to make decisions. They shouldn't need to over-think or hunt out features. If there's an option to turn it off (that appeared long after I signed up), it should be off by default. I set "auto-updates" on when I got PS+ years ago. I did not sign up for "auto-downloads".
This must of happened a bunch of times if you've been on ps+ for eons
Good UI should mean the removal of choice from the user?
What?
We bring up patches because they ARE a potential problem, with new software/patches separate as they are we know you don't have to get GoW with your patches.But I want the patches. I don't mind them downloading as I asked for it.
Is this really that hard to understand? Putting shitty betas for shitty games on my machine is not a good thing. It's not something I want. For all the bitching GAF does about anti-consumer behaviour here, you're all suddenly okay with this.
Nothing should be on my PlayStation unless I want it to be there. The. End.
Pfft, not at all.
Good user interface design should remove the need for the user to make decisions..
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Denial is used for a psychological defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.
Although this highlights we should probably be able to mark off what games we want kept up to date and what games we don't, so it doesn't keep downloading patches for something we traded in/rented eons ago.
Sony Defense Force is strong in this thread. I think they almost have you believing that its actually your fault
It's bordering on ridiculous, now.
I hope you get your situation fixed.
Bye.
Sony Defense Force is strong in this thread. I think they almost have you believing that its actually your fault
Sony Defense Force is strong in this thread. I think they almost have you believing that its actually your fault
What in the fuck? You must not live in Canada.Damn, I download about 80GB worth of games off of XBL and GOG in the past few hours alone.
Even being in the uncapped US, I still fear that the capping is inevitable, until the monopoly of the major cable providers is usurped.Damn, I download about 80GB worth of games off of XBL and GOG in the past few hours alone.
I live in canada and I download constantly without caps or anything.What in the fuck? You must not live in Canada.
I could never dream of doing that, even if I wanted too.
In my opinion, it isnt really anyones fault here more than others. The arguement will be about if Sony should have that feature set to be automatically on or off when someone starts a subscription for PS+, and if it is the user's responsibility to check out the features or not. On one side it can be positive for those who wish to have the feature without having to manually enable it, but on the other side it could be negative for those who dont want to have it enabled and dont know about it.Sony Defense Force is strong in this thread. I think they almost have you believing that its actually your fault
Teksavvy or Acanac?I live in canada and I download constantly without caps or anything.
The OP is complaining about a ridiculous thing that can easily be corrected by himself a long time ago and your saying that it's not his fault and it's only Sony's fault? I think the OP is just as much at fault as Sony is if anything.Sony Defense Force is strong in this thread. I think they almost have you believing that its actually your fault
I live in Saskatchewan so Sasktel.Teksavvy or Acanac?
In my opinion, it isnt really anyones fault here more than others. The arguement will be about if Sony should have that feature set to be automatically on or off when someone starts a subscription for PS+, and if it is the user's responsibility to check out the features or not. On one side it can be positive for those who wish to have the feature without having to manually enable it, but on the other side it could be negative for those who dont want to have it enabled and dont know about it.
It sounds like what happened here is that it was set to on by me, but at the time either a) not allowing Sony to communicate with me (set to off when I signed up for PSN back in '07) made that part of the feature redundant or b) it was added as an option somewhere along the line but set to on by default.
I'm not really sure which. It doesn't matter now; there's a solution and I can take it.
I was more annoyed with people's attitude that bad interface design is the fault of the user.
But I want the patches. I don't mind them downloading as I asked for it.
Is this really that hard to understand? Putting shitty betas for shitty games on my machine is not a good thing. It's not something I want. For all the bitching GAF does about anti-consumer behaviour here, you're all suddenly okay with this.
Nothing should be on my PlayStation unless I want it to be there. The. End.
Ya, I started off trying to defend, or at least be sympathetic with, the op, but he's sure defeating any sort of good will I may have had.Don't see any anti-consumer behaviour from Sony at all in this, how ridiculous.
It sounds like what happened here is that it was set to on by me, but at the time either a) not allowing Sony to communicate with me (set to off when I signed up for PSN back in '07) made that part of the feature redundant or b) it was added as an option somewhere along the line but set to on by default.
I'm not really sure which. It doesn't matter now; there's a solution and I can take it.
I was more annoyed with people's attitude that bad interface design is the fault of the user.
If it helps clarify what happened: it was added in November 2011, and defaulted existing subscribers to "on" (so that there'd be no change to their existing service and people wouldn't have to dig around in the menus to continue as they were ). All new subscribers from then on had to opt in at the prompt.
Okay, I get it now.
So you say that when you signed up for plus, autodownloading only had an all or nothing option and when they added additional that functionality you didn't know because
a) you don't read Playstation blog posts
b) you set communication off by default so you didn't get the email announcing the change
c) you didn't pay attention to the "What's new" tab when the firmware update containing the new feature came out
And you expected Sony to change your "download all" setting to the exact autodownload tier you wanted automatically?
Its possible, i dont remember how it was earlier regarding this and PS+, so i cant really say much about it unfortunately. I can understand your situation and frustration. I was a bit annoyed as well when i didnt knew that my Music Unlimited subscription was set to auto renewal. But yeah, the most important thing is that a solution was found at leastIt sounds like what happened here is that it was set to on by me, but at the time either a) not allowing Sony to communicate with me (set to off when I signed up for PSN back in '07) made that part of the feature redundant or b) it was added as an option somewhere along the line but set to on by default.
I'm not really sure which. It doesn't matter now; there's a solution and I can take it.
I was more annoyed with people's attitude that bad interface design is the fault of the user.
But yeah, the most important thing is that a solution was found at least
Thank you!
I knew I wasn't completely insane.
Bad, Sony. That shit should have defaulted to off. Opt-out features are always terrible.