Kageshinzo
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DOOOOM! VALVE IS GOING BANKRUPT! STEAM WILL BE DISCONTINUED! AAAAAAAA!
lol
God damn you, Stump.You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run.
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table.
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done.
- Kenny Rogers
Burning off the fat from that hardware pipe dream. Stick to what you know Valve.
The speculation in this thread is like a bad game of telephone. "Valve Layoffs" -> "omg steambox cancelled".
I don't buy that it was a matter of performance, the people working there are extremely talented. Efficiency reasons seem more plausible, it's likely that after a lot of experimentation they settled on the projects they want to move forward and cut everything else. Still, was there really no place for Jeri Ellsworth at another project or at the company in general? Something weird is going on.
I doubt this has anything to do with the Steambox. Newell talked about it at length just a few days ago, it seems like an important milestone for his company. I don't think he'd say "fuck it, let's call the whole thing off" that easily.
Laying off the hardware division? So is Valve in the process of getting bought?
Pretty much. It's fun to watch people jump to conclusions.
Indeed, I am perplexed about that, as he talked about it less than a week ago.
I wonder if (t)he decided it's best to approach the problem only from a software point of view (Steam for Linux, Big Picture Mode) as there are plenty of companies that are ready to ship HW solutions and perhaps its best to let them figure everything out.
-Gabe's favorite crowbar went missing and someone is going to pay.
-Gabe woke up after a long night out greeted by a bunch of employees snickering and giggling, then when he went to take a shower he discovered a henna tattoo of the number 3 on his ass.
Or valve just cutting loose some deadweight, I didn't know they even have 300+ employees.
It sounds like they might have found a long-term partner that will take on hardware development for them. Their statements about hardware have always been to the effect of "if we have to, we'll do it" rather than some keen interest in becoming a hardware vendor. Maybe they don't have to do the heavy lifting for peripherals/PC form factors anymore?
Isn't that like 10% of their workforce?
Or maybe............ 2 - 5 = -3. HALF-LIFE -3 CONFIRMED!
GAF like usual, manufacturing truth/facts from nothing. Gabe was motivated to hire the best for every aspect of their work, maybe some people just couldn't pull their weight compared to the standards set by other people in the work force or unannounced projects were simply cut and the individuals tied to them weren't necessary anymore. I love how people who don't work in the industry feel like they have the better perspective over people who do.
So what company hasn't had huge layoffs yet? All I can think of off the top of my head is Nintendo.
Isn't that like 10% of their workforce?
Possibly. Good post.It sounds like they might have found a long-term partner that will take on hardware development for them. Their statements about hardware have always been to the effect of "if we have to, we'll do it" rather than some keen interest in becoming a hardware vendor. Maybe they don't have to do the heavy lifting for peripherals/PC form factors anymore?
End of Camelot? Valve wasn't gaming utopia heaven?
Steambox by Dell...
GAF like usual, manufacturing truth/facts from nothing. Gabe was motivated to hire the best for every aspect of their work, maybe some people just couldn't pull their weight compared to the standards set by other people in the work force or unannounced projects were simply cut and the individuals tied to them weren't necessary anymore. I love how people who don't work in the industry feel like they have the better perspective over people who do.
Well rumors from people who do work in the industry (and Valve?) seem to suggest that these layoffs are not based on performance.
Companies are not benevolent. Not even Valve. If Gabe decided to take business in a different direction that didn't include places for some of these hardware engineers and mobile developers, it is entirely feasible that they could be let go even if they were doing a stellar job previously.
You are funny.
You wonder why? Simple: Because the only source we have regarding the lay-offs reports that a) only the hardware and android divisions are affected and b) it was unrelated to the work quality of the employees.
So, saying that the employees just didn't meet Valve's expectations is unlikely based on the vague information we have.
No one here is manufacturing any facts or truths. What people do here, however, is making assumptions based on the information we've got. That's the same you just did with your post if you haven't noticed (okay, only that you ignored the little pieces of information we've got). If you don't like it, well, maybe you shouldn't post on a discussion board since you apparently fail to understand what the point of a discussion board is.
How can Valve get away with have no PR. Just a press release or something would clear up so much.
I started reading more about those rumors, so I assume that might be the case. Didn't Gabe also mention(in an interview) new hires being fired all the time?
its better 2 burn out then 2 fade away.............
-kurt cobian
Oh shit, tell me more, you must know EVERYTHING!
Best post in the thread. Stump, you're like some magical, rational version of Count Dookake.You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run.
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table.
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done.
- Kenny Rogers
I wonder if (t)he decided it's best to approach the problem only from a software point of view (Steam for Linux, Big Picture Mode) as there are plenty of companies that are ready to ship HW solutions and perhaps its best to let them figure everything out.
Something is up. Everyone knows it's true since Half-Life is seriously drifting into Duke Nukem Forever territory in terms of vaporware.
Something is up. Everyone knows it's true since Half-Life is seriously drifting into Duke Nukem Forever territory in terms of vaporware.
that batshit crazy company culture is gonna bite them in the ass one day
it works with a couple of dozen employees but once you reach hundreds or in the future maybe thousands its gonna become a clusterfuck