peanutbutterlatte
Member
You say that, but I've seen plenty of ads for 3DS titles in the past, Prof Layton and Paper Mario for example. The latter titles you mentioned probably don't have ads because they're not even out yet.
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UK Sales - Wii U game sales just 25k in February, Vita just 35k, Nintendo down by 49%
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You say that, but I've seen plenty of ads for 3DS titles in the past, Prof Layton and Paper Mario for example. The latter titles you mentioned probably don't have ads because they're not even out yet.
Black Republican
Member
damn, thats just bad
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Nintendo have basically completely squandered this entire year that they had all to themselves without the noise of Sony and Microsoft pushing new machines.
Wii U games seem to be continuously delayed or have vague release dates. I think after March there are literally five games with solid release dates on Wii U.
Wii U games seem to be continuously delayed or have vague release dates. I think after March there are literally five games with solid release dates on Wii U.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Someone counted - 12 weeks
Vita games charted twice in February in end of top 40.
Hmm not sure if i should be proud that i'm responsible for 1/20000 of Vita software in UK in jan+Feb period
You bought 0.005% of all Vita software in 2013, to do that for the top platform (360) you would have had to buy 76 games. :O
As fcked as the Wii U is in the UK, they really haven't been helped by the fact that the Wii U + games aren't really stocked anywhere other than game specific (i.e. game....) stores.
The supermarkets, which I'd imagine a lot of people by there games from, just aren't stocking them, at all.
The supermarkets, which I'd imagine a lot of people by there games from, just aren't stocking them, at all.
Four month old port at twice the price of the original versions on a system with a miniscule install base?
I wouldn't hang my hat on it.
Contrary to the "no games" mantra, games have released in the UK for the Wii U over the last 3 months and failed to chart. Even if the bottom of the chart is only 1,000 units or so, games have been selling less than even that and failing to chart.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Who's fault is that? I'd go with Nintendo.
Oh they did advertise a degree last year..but I've barely seen anything this year (Layton was their biggest campaign by far).
I can understand them waiting another week or so for the Luigi/lego adds to kick off..but Monster Hunter Ultimate is out in 3 days on 2 formats.
You'd think that would be something they'd be pushing hard (the wii game had loads of ads).
It depends on how many people are willing to double dip I guess, or are new fans to the series.
I've never played a MH game before, so I might pick it up on 3DS I guess. But I guess a lot of fans have either played it on Wii.
Challenge Acce- ah who am I kidding
I hope Vita carves out a sustainable niche group of gamers, it deserves better T_T
frankie_baby
Member
yes completely wrong, that is pure conjecture, no one with half a brain cell in the uk would buy retail games digitally
That's software, not hardware.
It probably is Nintendo's fault, but at the same time I can't imagine the supermarkets are in a rush to sign up stock for a failing product.
Tesco, Sainsbury's and Asda aren't specialist games retailers. They buy stock based on what they think will make them money. The Wii U is a bad product, really uncompelling at the mass market level, and it isn't selling as a result. Maybe it's a bit of a Catch 22 in that it might not be selling so badly if supermarkets were obliged to support it, but that's no guarantee, and its not the buying manager at Tesco's problem.
It's a complete mess at every level.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Well... it's a pretty niche title. I don't think it will give either system the boost people think it will. There's a reason it took so long to get localized.
This for me as well. I got PS+ for the first time this week...and I'm already thinking of buying a vita just because of it!
Sony & MS are holding really strong for such ancient consoles. They've got to be feeling pretty confident going into the next gen.
I don't know whether to argue or not. I buy all my Vita stuff digitally but I don't know where I stand on the brain cell count.
because its the the same damn game as on wii, ds, etc, people arent quite THAT stupid
Relaxed Muscle
Member
No problem Japan will save the Vita and....
....well...Japan? no...um...NA? neither...aliens will buy the Wii U?
It works for COD.
....well...Japan? no...um...NA? neither...aliens will buy the Wii U?
It works for COD.
Thanks
Nintendo only have themselves to blame, they are paying for the mistakes made with the wii, long software droughts, not supporting it all that well, third party nowhere to be seen is all coming home to roost. Then they release a system thats pretty much on par with eight year old hardware with nothing that stands out for £300 and little software for months on end. I said a few months back that nintendo had a whiff about them people have been truely put off them.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
It's up to Nintendo to convince the supermarkets that the Wii U is worth stocking. They obviously aren't doing that.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Really comes down to this. America had Fire Emblem, Japan still had Animal Crossing, and we had sweet fuck all. Boneheaded decision to say the least.
I didn't only talk about "retail" games, I included digital-only games, etc...If you count all the game sales, I'm tempted to think the Vita players buy more digitally that the Wii-U ones.
AdventureRacing
Member
They're both in really strong positions imo. Still depending on what moves they make i could see either one of them really pulling ahead next gen. Whatever happens it's going to be an exciting time.
Nintendo don't have long to get their shit together.
I agree it probably won't boost them ....but it sure as hell won't boost them without advertising.
CoD at least changes the story/settings/etc
NSMB games are just level packs, people want something new
I dont think it does, i dont think it takes into account things like catalogs which are still pretty big for lower income people.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Less than half. Obviously.
It is. But at the same time, they'd drop it like a stone if it wasn't worth their inventory space once they started. And lets face it, that's quite likely.
It's Nintendo's job to convince retailers the Wii U is worth stocking, but that's one hell of an uphill task in itself at this rate. Has it been confirmed anywhere that this hasn't already happened? Maybe the supermarkets have already turned down stock.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Char-track covers around 90% of the retail market, but it doesn't include digital sales.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Hardly surprising - Nintendo had years to prepare after dumping their previous machine like old trash, then they release something on par with current consoles for twice the price, with no compelling software and a huge post-launch drought and multiple delays.
Vita sounds similarly disastrous. Boo!
Vita sounds similarly disastrous. Boo!
Opus Angelorum
Member
The Xbox 360 and PS3 are eating the Wii U's lunch, PSVita skipped it entirely.
DragonSworne
Banned
Make you wonder how much time and money Nintendo wasted on things like the vitality sensor and other nonsense.
Nintendo really haven't helped themselves in this matter.
Look at the Amazon.co.uk reviews for Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask - over 30 people who marked it as one-star because they couldn't play it on the DS and couldn't understand why there wasn't a DS version, since the 3DS is just a DS with 3D on it.
People probably think exactly the same of the Wii U - it's a Wii with a screen. Hell, I had my cousins over to play a month or so back, and keeping in mind that these are very spoiled children who are very "with" technology, they didn't even realise it was a new machine.
Hopefully Nintendo will learn that naming their system the same damn thing, and then continuing to support and release new revisions and software for the old systems is really doing a number on them.
I love Nintendo but even I can see they're shooting themselves in the foot. My Wii U hasn't seen use in weeks (it won't until Lego City), which is saddening.
Look at the Amazon.co.uk reviews for Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask - over 30 people who marked it as one-star because they couldn't play it on the DS and couldn't understand why there wasn't a DS version, since the 3DS is just a DS with 3D on it.
People probably think exactly the same of the Wii U - it's a Wii with a screen. Hell, I had my cousins over to play a month or so back, and keeping in mind that these are very spoiled children who are very "with" technology, they didn't even realise it was a new machine.
Hopefully Nintendo will learn that naming their system the same damn thing, and then continuing to support and release new revisions and software for the old systems is really doing a number on them.
I love Nintendo but even I can see they're shooting themselves in the foot. My Wii U hasn't seen use in weeks (it won't until Lego City), which is saddening.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Its too late now, the thing has fail-stink all over it. What makes matters all the more perplexing is that Nintendo didn't go balls to the wall on setting up kiosks and providing supermarkets with tons of in-store marketing materials before/at launch to make the thing a success and highly visible anyway.
They seemingly thought they could just piss out the console, NSMBU, leave the stage dropping the mic and then watch the sales roll in. Whoopsie doodle!
The situation with Nintendo and the UK in general is pretty depressing. The majority of people in this country seem entirely uninterested by anything they have to offer. Most people I know still don't know what the Wii U is, and cannot name any DS, 3DS, or Wii game outside of Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda.
On top of this, Wii U advertisements are basically non-existant. Actually, the last Nintendo advert I remember seeing was the OoT3D advert... that was months ago.
On top of this, Wii U advertisements are basically non-existant. Actually, the last Nintendo advert I remember seeing was the OoT3D advert... that was months ago.
michaelius
Banned
Afaik people don't buy CoD for all platforms they own but just for one and wii u version was last.
AranhaHunter
Banned
Has it really or is this hearsay? I would like to see some numbers
Demand is not going to suddenly increase if they see a huge pile of Wii U sitting around. It "might" increase exposure but consoles are not really things you'd buy spur of the moment if you happen to see one. Usually you would have made the decision before stepping outside your house.
It's all on Nintendo, no one else.
That's 3DS. The Wii U situation is even worse. Remember the "more than 50 launch window games"? 35 games were released for the system so far - including eShop and Virtual Console releases. That's just abysmal. And Nintendo seems to know that, which is probably why they don't waste money on marketing the thing.
It makes it even more maddening that they said they learnt from the 3DS they have pretty much repeated the whole deal. I almost feel like ive been suckered into buying a wii u given all the noise from nintendo pre launch. I wont be so naive next time.
The good thing for Vita is that if I'm reading that data right, in two months it's done around 85% of what it did in YTD '12 (just over 10 months if the data was tracked from launch, and including the launch sales).
That can only mean sales are increasing - although I suppose when numbers are that low to begin with it's not a huge achievement - but it is promising at least.
That can only mean sales are increasing - although I suppose when numbers are that low to begin with it's not a huge achievement - but it is promising at least.
pieatorium
Member
You are reading it wrong the numbers in op are software sales
My god. This is a portmanteau consisting of the words 'Nintendo', and 'Doomed'. That's really clever. It might appear like some sort of typo at first glance but it's actually a cleverly and deliberately engineered linguistic bombshell. Truly, I am staggered by the ingenuity of humanity.