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Kotaku: Next Xbox will require online connection to start games
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ElRenoRaven
Member
So it confirms what we already knew. Online required to play games hence online DRM. Well MS can kiss my ass. They'll not be seeing a dime of my next gen money for sure then.
That's a bit different from a guy openly admitting he has no problem allowing MS to dictate when he can and can't play his legally bought single player games.
I swear there are some Microsoft employees posting in here lol.
Anyway i could accept this if Microsoft were releasing 2 skus, one for all this entertainment, shopping and social shite and one just for gaming and Blu Rays that doesn't require the internet and always online etc.
Its pretty obvious to me that the whole point of this is to bombard you with offers and adverts etc, its anti consumer imo and it doesn't make good business to force stuff on consumers, that hardly ever works.
Anyway i could accept this if Microsoft were releasing 2 skus, one for all this entertainment, shopping and social shite and one just for gaming and Blu Rays that doesn't require the internet and always online etc.
Its pretty obvious to me that the whole point of this is to bombard you with offers and adverts etc, its anti consumer imo and it doesn't make good business to force stuff on consumers, that hardly ever works.
The Omega Man
Member
Corporations have won, the first generation of conditioned and domesticated users are starting to show up
AstroNut325
Member
Except... I'm not getting the next XBOX! Not sure because always online and DRM... it's the lack of new and interesting games. Go through my post history. I have no allegiance to any company.
I just don't see the big deal of this.
Vinterbird
Member
I just want to know if Durango will support WiFi AC or not.
A game is not an internet browser and most of them are quite useful without an internet connection.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Its not that unfeasible really.
Look at Google's Chromebooks and their requirement for always online, which ties into the general shift towards a cloud-based future. This transition goes hand-in-hand with always online.
Look at Google's Chromebooks and their requirement for always online, which ties into the general shift towards a cloud-based future. This transition goes hand-in-hand with always online.
You have a very strange definition of the words "confirm" and "know."
shinobi602
Member
What.....who are you to dictate to others what they should do with their lives? I should be able to play a game I bought with my money, wherever I want, when I want.
And your point is anecdotal. I also have family who play Xbox in Senegal and they don't have reliable internet. We can go round and round.
Uno Venova
Banned
Looking more and more true by the day, and I was told it not being on the front of the XDK summary and Gamestops praises confirmed EDGE was talking bullshit, or just pulled it out f their ass for some hits. Relying on online is not for me, sorry MS.
Zoe
Member
Yep. Goes along perfectly with the subsidized pricing rumors.
Doug Heffernan
Member
A rumor is a rumor is a rumor...
I can't wait for the reveal.
I can't wait for the reveal.
Foolishfellow
Banned
I would be completely fine with this. The only problem is that the cable providers in the United States have monopolies that control entire cities. I can't tell you how many times per week my internet speeds drop below what I'm supposedly paying for or just drop out completely and I live in a decent sized college town. Unfortunately there is only one cable internet provider in my entire city (other than the also unreliable DSL and 3G providers).
If video game companies want "always online" the United States need better high speed internet infrastructure.
If video game companies want "always online" the United States need better high speed internet infrastructure.
But they already got their money from the game being sold first, why should they get paid twice of the same game if i buy a used game.
Besides i meant bad business sense by cutting out a large portion of potential customers by requiring an internet connection.
Ninja Scooter
Member
So is the curse of the third console striking again? You can even count the Wii U if you consider GC/Wii/Wii U a new trilogy. They are always cluster fucks and/or lose a ton or marketshare. Be aware, MS!
So what exact Koolaid was given? Did they try to convince everyone that PSN being down was awesome?
They didn't do the PSN thing on purpose. When it was over, they apologized and gave everyone free games.
Sidewinder
Member
Thank you based MS to give me time to do other things than play with your console, it's not like I bought your console to use it whenever I want. Thank you, you're too kind!
Aside from the fact that I have a library of 50+ games installed on my harddrive that will launch with a simple click. No internet required.
..Why am I even responding to this guy.
sadly no. It is funny however, but it wasn't inteded to be
-_- At this point I'm starting to think you are pulling our leg
You don't see the issue with saying "It's not a huge deal when I sometimes can't play my games when I want to play my games" ?
Ninja Moomin
Banned
seriously... Why does anyone think ms cares about core gamers anyway?
they didn't start making a profit until Kinect sold the 360 to more non gamers...?
they didn't start making a profit until Kinect sold the 360 to more non gamers...?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Interesting that Kotaku breaking news about the PS4 controller's touchpad and share button, breaking news about Doom 4's troubled development cycle, showing video and images from Star Wars: First Assault, breaking news about LucasFilm shuttering LucasArts and canceling their games, showing concept art from the Boba Fett version of Star Wars 1313, telling the story of what really happened to Aliens: Colonial Marines, and many, many more stories just weren't enough to get some NeoGAFfers to trust that maybe we know what we're doing.
But hey, we'll just keep on keeping on.
I just don't want to believe man. I just don't want the truth!
That's the most short-sighted thing I've ever read here, and I've been here for a while.
Ploid 3.0
Member
It don't stop at their service, it'll also mean you can't play your console if you're at a location that don't have internet. People game in a wide range of places, not just in cities that have 24/7 internet. Soldiers in the army love playing consoles for entertainment, but they have limited use of internet depending on where they are.
Always on drm for specific games? Sure, easy to avoid that game.
Always on drm for a whole console? NO WAY!
For the record, I have both Diablo 3 and Sim City 2013. Diablo 3 was my fool me once. For Sim City the deal was too good to pass ($40 for sim city, Dead Space 3, and Need For Speed Most Wanted). I would have paid $20 for the other two games each.
Difference is PSN is free while what Microsoft does is not and this, if it's true, probably won't be free either.
Mass Effect
Member
Man, I know these are just rumors and could be completely wrong, but the more I hear them the more I don't even want to bother with the next Xbox, though I probably wasn't going to get one anyway. But at the same time, I do want to give MS the benefit of the doubt, they could have some great exclusives or amazing new features, but these rumors are making it harder to care.
Isn't Onlive dying on its arse?, talk about a 'cloud gaming' future!.
Penguins&PolarBears
Member
Right just like everyone here predicted Kinect would be an epic fail and ended up looking ridiculous and completely out of touch with reality.
This reminds me of all the talk in 2000/2001 about how Xbox 1 was making a huge mistake not including a dial-up modem like PS2 and Dreamcast and instead expecting everyone who bought Xbox to have broadband connections.
I'm already at the point where if my Internet is down I'm not turning on my Xbox 360. Without Internet access all of the video apps are worthless, no multiplayer, no party chat, no access to my cloud saves which is essential to me because I own multiple Xboxes, no ability to buy content, worry of achievements/saves not syncing, etc. So as far as I'm concerned Xbox 360 is already a system that requires online access to be useable.
Beer Monkey
Member
I have a Chromebook and use it offline all the time.
I wouldn't have bought it if I couldn't.
People don't understand the difference between always-on/always-connected and always-online which implicates DRM.
If you don't understand why this is an issue and don't really care for anyone other than yourself, you should probably refrain from participating in a discussion about the far reaching problems this creates. Those people are not worth replying to. It's been spelled out a million times now.
Baconsammy
Banned
Did they wait a week to tell me my credit card info was compromised by accident? To stick with any company that does that requires Koolaid to be drunk. I drank it and so did many others. It comes down to how badly you want the product they're selling.
I think the PSN fiasco is not comparable to this. While Sony completely mishandled the whole situation, I was still able to play all my games when that shit went down. I could not use some of the peripheral features of my videogames console, but I could still play games.
I hope that, if something similar were to happen with the next Xbox, barring users from playing their games, things would turn out differently.
Difference is that the PSN outage was a terrible thing that they apologized for, not a terrible thing that they tried to force down our throats.
The Albatross
Member
That was a mistake, though... not by design. They apologized for it. They gave away free stuff for it. Listen, if the Next XBox is going to be FREE in exchange for limiting play time, then sure, but otherwise.
I wonder, have you ever had your electricity go out in your house? Like, say, for 3 or 4 days during a storm? Do you see it as "just a time to get back to the basics, no heat, no food" or do you get frustrated as all hell?
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ALSO, I am not even against always online or always online DRM shit. I just need to know what the benefit is for the consumer. Microsoft: just tell me what the benefit is, then I'll be okay with it.
This too.
Because it's a rumor from unnamed sources, it's pretty damned shallow.
If you are considering the portable aspects of a console, you should consider portable game console. Each console specializes and it just turns out Durango is for an always-connected home. Soldiers unfortunately do not fall under that category due to their inconsistent connection/locale.
I think he meant the Chromebook pixel or whatever specifically.
Durango is an internet browser now? No shit an internet browser needs internet, its sole function is to browse the internet.
Why should a single player game require internet to launch? Hell, even my iphone is able to launch its offline single player apps if there is no internet or cell phone service.
You're okay with not having access to your games in the event of an internet outage (inclement weather, etc) on your end OR MS's end? Really?
Doug Heffernan
Member
meanwhile, Sony still hasn't made a profit since the PS2 days...