Duckhuntdog
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I don't think that would be the case if it were any system, Sony or Nintendo.
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Microsoft Studios' creative director has some choice words about always-online
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cosmicblizzard
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PLEASE tell me the mass market won't stand for this. I know the informed gamer won't, but I can't imagine what kind of message this would send if Durango does well regardless (unless of course there's stuff that makes up for it).
People here do love the Vita as a product but its sales performance is shat on every day. That's basically what I meant.
1st Course
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Just like how "GAF" defended the Vita memory cards right?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=449837
Voice of Reason
Banned
I see.
Look who's coming out of the woodwork! You got some appropriate responses deservedly;
gundamkyoukai
Member
It's going to be rather interesting gen if MS does this .
This type of logic is only going to get more prevalent as the year goes on. Especially if we get E3 2006 type shenanigans again this year with megatons and such flying around.
rakkadakka
Member
Holy fucking shit. They're really doing it.
My thoughts exactly.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Why are they doing it should be the main issue. I don't see why they could leave it as it now
Ol No Bones
Banned
It too early to pronounce doom on the Xbox just because of a few stupid tweets. This attitude is unacceptable.
Yeah, open to the public again >:
SenjutsuSage
Banned
"People will move to better homes and better neighborhoods with better internet connections in order to buy the new xbox."
I don't mind always online, but I had to get in on the fun just a little.
I don't mind always online, but I had to get in on the fun just a little.
It looks like it comes from an Indian movie. It says "Goa Police" and it seems Goa is a place in India.
Doug Heffernan
Member
This dude is a nobody looking for some attention.
Probably a new hire or a fake account.
Take this thing with a grain of salt...
Oh wait, this is Neogaf; where everyone jumps to conclusions!
Probably a new hire or a fake account.
Take this thing with a grain of salt...
Oh wait, this is Neogaf; where everyone jumps to conclusions!
Insane Metal
Member
I own a 360 and didn't buy Halo 4. So no. Maybe if Bungie was making it
For some reason he deleted the Obama response pic....but his other tweets are there. Why lol
Oyashrio-Sama
Member
So.... Nextbox always online is basically confirmed?
I didn't think MS would be that stupid...
I didn't think MS would be that stupid...
AHA-Lambda
Member
I think word would quickly get out, especially if coupled with anti used games if that ends up being true as well.
You do understand that it is not just "a guy" right?
You do get why what he says has some weight? Or is this just some way to seem above it all
The market will stand for it, and pretty much everyone here will cave and Microsoft wins. It is inevitable.
Just a curious thought here. I know dedicated gamers like GAF members and others who browse all gaming news are offended by this since we are in the know. But what abut the ignorant masses who don't know wtf DRM, always-online and such mean? They might still gobble up the Durango and Microsoft might spin the "always-connected" feature to be a massive benefit.
StreetsAhead
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Questions for defenders:
-Why do I need to have my internet on to load a single player game?
-Why should I get kicked out of playing a single player game if my internet kicks out for some arbitrary amount of time?
-Why would I pay for Xbox Live if I have to be online all the time anyway?
-Are they tracking my usage/targeting ads at me by being online? Can I opt-out?
-Why should I be disadvantaged by an arbitrary decision because the area I live in experiences sometimes patchy internet? Electronic devices require electricity to run. Only a few types of games actually require internet connections to run.
And so on.
-Why do I need to have my internet on to load a single player game?
-Why should I get kicked out of playing a single player game if my internet kicks out for some arbitrary amount of time?
-Why would I pay for Xbox Live if I have to be online all the time anyway?
-Are they tracking my usage/targeting ads at me by being online? Can I opt-out?
-Why should I be disadvantaged by an arbitrary decision because the area I live in experiences sometimes patchy internet? Electronic devices require electricity to run. Only a few types of games actually require internet connections to run.
And so on.
Whiteshirt
Member
And when Kamiya tells people to go fuck off, its often justified. If you ask him sensible and interesting questions, he gives you pretty neat answers.
I have no idea what this guy is doing. At the end of the day, he's doing an Arthur Gies where he's saying shit and doubling down, making everything he's associated with look bad.
Where have you been for all of the Vita is dead commentary?
Green Wiggly
Member
Even better, now you have the opportunity to pick up and move if you want to experience next gen pay walls!
If this turns out to be true, I can't wait for the inevitable train wreck of a launch.
UberTag
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They should roll out some PS4 commercials for the opening weekend of baseball season and the Final Four.
"This fall Sony will bring to you the next-generation in hi-definition video games featuring all of the franchises you know and love. <show clips> And unlike the other guys, you won't need to be connected to the Internet to enjoy them.
Because when your Internet goes down, so do your games. <game footage switches to black screen and frustrated gamer looking upset>
PLAY ANYTIME.
PLAY ANYWHERE.
PLAY ONLINE.
PLAY OFFLINE.
PLAYSTATION.
<PS4 logo>"
Why on Earth would you live on Kobol?
Knux-Future
Banned
I just wonder how Microsoft will sell this as a good feature....no used as well.
People don;t give a shit about piracy so "it stops piracy yo" doesn't move units.
I am always connected so this technically doesn't bother me. My internet is shit but when it goes down I normally try to fix it first lol. That being said not being able to play at all is garbage especially for games that aren't online.
I just hope Sony sticks to what they said because man next gen seems shit.
The sad part is that this won't effect aything...people will still buy it and get fucked and be okay with that.
People only complain after the fact and by then they will justify it with "bu-but it's better".
meh
They just need to unveil this shit already and let the rumors stop. Damn near all of them have been awful
People don;t give a shit about piracy so "it stops piracy yo" doesn't move units.
I am always connected so this technically doesn't bother me. My internet is shit but when it goes down I normally try to fix it first lol. That being said not being able to play at all is garbage especially for games that aren't online.
I just hope Sony sticks to what they said because man next gen seems shit.
The sad part is that this won't effect aything...people will still buy it and get fucked and be okay with that.
People only complain after the fact and by then they will justify it with "bu-but it's better".
meh
They just need to unveil this shit already and let the rumors stop. Damn near all of them have been awful
VeryGooster
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Diablo 3 did alright, and Starcraft II.
A fake account created in April 2009?
digoutyoursoul
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Is he the "oh just give em another Halo or Gears" at meetings because that's how I imagine their meetings to go with Phil Spencer just nodding his head
JaseMath
Member
Maybe it's a DRM, exclusivity deal with third parties? It's shitty whatever the reason.
AuthenticM
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How do you embed tweets ?
I never thought people would embrace them with their pay-to-play online Xbox live model. So who knows what actually happens.
Voice of Reason
Banned
Maybe they're necrophiliacs?
Hot Coldman
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REAL LIFE CONVERSATION I HAVE HAD WITH REAL PEOPLE (to the best of my memory)
Me: "So, you heard about the next Xbox?"
Him: "No, what's it like? Any good?"
Me: "Well, no official details yet, but all signs are pointing to bad things. Seems like it'll block used games."
Him: "What are those?"
Me: "Like, pre-owned games. You know, second-hand. Cheap."
Him: "Oh, right."
Me: "Yeah, and it's always online too. Probably. So if your internet connection goes down, you're fucked. You can't use it."
Him: "Yeah I doubt it"/"Well, I'm sure it'll be OK, and I don't want a PS4"/"Let's see how it turns out"
I've never had someone actually be outraged or the least bit upset by this. How.
No they wouldn't.
The only reason the PS4 is getting great forum press at the moment, is because Sony aren't committing to retarded, anti-consumer business models, like always online DRM and no used games.
Which ever company put out the most power console would garner praise from sections of GAF, but most of the bitterness towards next gen Microsoft is due to its business practises, not its hardware.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Bah, guess I can only hope PS4/Wii U do better (though the latter also has some anti-consumer issues and who knows about the former).
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