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[WrenchNinja]

There are people actually trying to defend this.
What the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[dmr87]

Front page on Reddit, now you've done it.

 

[nhlducks35]

Don't forget the Gold subscription. I have to pay a monthly fee just to be able to cook.

No shit, you have to pay your electricity and gas bill

 

[Deleted member 47027]

I think people are overreacting.

 

[nib95]

We're going in circles now. So what if your Internet goes out occasionally. My electricity goes out all the time. I can't play anything without a battery when that happens. Does that mean I won't buy PS4 or 720 and only play games on laptop and tablets because they have batteries?

A console does not need to be online to play games. Devices do need electricity to run however.

 

[jayu26]

For me personally, I've got a decent system(i7-920@4Ghz/12gb ram/GTX 680) and what I've seen from PS4 doesn't personally excite me as I've seen things that look on par with it for the better part of 2 years. Crysis 2 modded/Skyrim Modded looked as good or better than anything that was shown at the PS4 conference. So If I just put graphics aside I'd have to look at games, there was nothing I saw that was exclusive to PS4 that sold me. Watch Dogs is coming to PC. The only game I thought looked interesting was the one with the little robot fella who could change into different things. I guess I'm just not wowed by graphics anymore so I need something more to get me excited.

I can understand your sentiment, nothing excites you about PS4, that's valid...but the sentiment I am talking about is where if the person were to buy next gen console it was always going to be Xbox while Playstation was never in contention! I was just wondering if this is result of Sony's past hubris.

 

[Twilight Gap]

Mandatory online and mandatory Kinect 2.0 as well staring you in the face? Unless MS pulls a miracle PS4 is a lock for me. I don't trust Microsoft in a one console future.

Nope nope nope

No shit, you have to pay your electricity and gas bill

lol I was going to say this too but I think we all get where the joke was going.

Gone are the days where gaming was simple and relatively inexpensive.

 

[JCreasy]

Front page on Reddit, now you've done it.

Oh shit !

 

[Codeblew]

Destiny is always online.

I am sure he knows that. At least with the PS4, he would be able to play other single player games if his internet or Sony's servers were down.

 

[Uno Venova]

Front page on Reddit, now you've done it.

Shit that's a lot of upvotes.

 

[metareferential]

It doesn't matter if it's a "joke" and the cities mentioned aren't as terrible. The fact is: no one has 100% reliable internet and requiring offline-titles (like singleplayer) or single-player portions of multiplayer games to REQUIRE online is fucking stupid no matter how you slice it.

And US soldiers deployed to Iraq or other warzones that take consoles with them to play in the downtime could not play an online-only-required console. Fact.

Durango is doomed, we get it.

 

[ironcreed]

Mandatory online and mandatory Kinect 2.0 as well staring you in the face? Unless MS pulls a miracle PS4 is a lock for me. I don't trust Microsoft in a one console future.

I don't give a flying fuck what games they announce. This is a no deal scenario for me period. The PS4 launch is looking quite beastly anyway, so I'll be fine.

 

[CambriaRising]

There are people actually trying to defend this.
What the fuck is wrong with you?

Notice how they all flock in as this is winding down.

 

[TxdoHawk]

He's just trolling? Oh boy.

Adam, I hope you have a better excuse saved up for the very, very uncomfortable meeting with Microsoft execs you're about to be scheduled for.

 

[Pennywise]

No shit, you have to pay your electricity and gas bill

Nah, you'll have to wait 7 days until the microwave starts, if you don't own a gold status.

 

[JABEE]

GAF is so melodramatic sometimes.

I don't think so. This is the direction the industry has gradually been going in. Microsoft is embracing the "games-as-a-service" approach is something that deserves pushback and criticism.

How does limiting the ability for customers to play the games they purchased for a specific platform help the consumer in any way? This is a practice devised by an Engineer and approved whole-heartedly by marketing people.

How does this new "feature" benefit a consumer that just played the single player campaign of a release last generation and has no plans and has no time to invest in competitive multiplayer?

 

[GAMERG0D]

Ah well, I'll be waiting for Durango after Microsoft sorts out launch issues (you know they'll have them) and when it has a solid library.

 

[Trey]

I dont think Halo has staying power to begin with anymore. Call of Duty has absolutely been wrecking any competition, Halo numbers are incredibly low with 4 compared to how 3 was doing. Provided MS doesnt get timed rights to COD outright, I don't see exclusives like Halo being as significant factors. And with MMO/F2P games becoming bigger, next gen is going to be really different in terms of what sells consoles.

Honestly, I wonder the power of Halo and Gears going forward. I feel like Halo 4 and Judgment were a bit overkill, unless the next games are really overhauled like COD4 was.

Halo still outsells any two PS exclusives by itself. For all its lack of luster relative to its predecessors, including flagging online participation numbers, Halo 4 is the fastest selling Halo of all time.

It remains to be seen whether that power will transcend generations, especially on the heels of a community dividing entry such as Halo 4, but it is certainly not an IP to trifle with.

 

[harSon]

And Gears too

Oooor

Destiny and Killzone Shadow Fall, and Uncharted 4 (or new IP), Infamous Second Son, SSM New IP maybe, RAD's new IP (confirmed), The Last Guardian maybe

Decisions, decisions

Unannounced console with no confirmed games

oooooor

Announced console with confirmed games

I wonder which console is going to come off as more appealing...

 

[Penguins&PolarBears]

No electricity = nothing works

No internet = only the Durango doesn't work

Kind of a big difference.

That's not even remotely true. When the electricity goes out I have tablets, smartphones, portable game systems, laptops, iPods, radio, etc. My home is loaded with battery powered gadgets. I should know I had to live for 15 days without electricity last year thanks to Sandy.

Also I own other devices that require Internet connections like several Roku streaming boxes. Honestly the truth is that I wouldn't even turn on my Xbox 360 to play if I didn't have Internet access. I have multiple systems and my games saves are stored in the cloud which means I would have to remember which system I last played the game on to not overwrite a save. Too risky, not worth it. Also many of my XBLA titles require an online connection because they are registered to a specific box or user account. Without Internet the only thing I would ever use my 360 for is to watch DVDs.

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

Well saw a Chinese Microsoft employee(he live in USA) aka investor of Tequila Works replied something about this...will translate it later(working now),or someone can translate it if you can

 

[BRocknRolla]

Well, regardless of your stance on "always on" I think we can all agree on one thing; that guy seems like a huge douche.

 

[Replicant]

There are people actually trying to defend this.
What the fuck is wrong with you?

Well, they need to earn those MS points.

 

[Radec]

Always Online Knights.

And i thought I have seen it all here in Gaf.

 

[ironcreed]

No shit, you have to pay your electricity and gas bill

That would be the equivalent of paying your internet service provider, yet imagine still having to pay another fee on top of that just to use the features, lol. That is what I am getting at.

 

[Heysoos]

What a fucking douche. Hope Microsoft just "deals with it" when gamers vote with their wallets if they do go this shitty route.

 

[FroJay]

There are people actually trying to defend this.
What the fuck is wrong with you?

Damn good question, Xbox customer since the original 11 years ago on launch and I want no part of this always online future. My internet consistently fails around 1am a few times a week and I have no connection. In those instances I want to be able to play single player games, but with this it sounds like that won't be happening. Not to mention anytime Live is down for maintenance.

I just want to know the benefits or reasoning for it? If there are clear benefits for the consumer I'm more than ready to hear them, if not I want no part of it. Sony is going in a direction I'm interested, MS is not.

 

[metareferential]

Unannounced console with no confirmed games

oooooor

Announced console with confirmed games

I wonder which console is going to come off as more appealing...

Some are just looking for excuses that can justify their irrational choices.

They made up their minds long before we even knew about nextgen's codenames.

 

[Slayven]

Well saw a Chinese Microsoft employee(he live in USA) aka investor of Tequila Works replied something about this...will translate it later(working now),or someone can translate it if you can

Pretty sure it is a spell to raise the dead.

 

[VeryGooster]

There are people actually trying to defend this.
What the fuck is wrong with you?

"This doesn't affect me...
...unless Microsoft's servers shit the bed."

 

[Reiko]

Front page on Reddit, now you've done it.

 

[jayu26]

Pretty sure it is a spell to raise the dead.

lol, now I must know what it says!

 

[Clefargle]

This is too funny, there are no words... Should have sent a poet...

Seriously though, MS is acting like they have MS...

 

[Jarmel]

Front page on Reddit, now you've done it.

I feel sorry for the guy now.

 

[JCreasy]

Nope nope nope



lol I was going to say this too but I think we all get where the joke was going.

Gone are the days where gaming was simple and relatively inexpensive.

Me: Durango, my internet is a little spotty. How about a single player game today?

Xbox 720: I'm sorry, I can't do that J. I mean really, I can't. Next-gen policies.

 

[JABEE]

Well, regardless of your stance on "always on" I think we can all agree on one thing; that guy seems like a huge douche.

I don't can't call him that, but I think his arguments are flawed and that he will be wrong in the end, at least for this generation, but that's Microsoft's philosophy.

He probably shouldn't have been so dismissive and sarcastic, but I can't say he's a bad person for getting emotional about the backlash to the Kotaku article. He probably regrets it now.

 

[Punkster_NY]

Front page on Reddit, now you've done it.

holy shit that's a lot of upvotes.

what reddit is doing to his career right now.

 

[Razlo]

Without Internet the only thing I would ever use my 360 for is to watch DVDs.

Well then, you are certainly not the average gamer.

 

[scytherage]

Oh man, it's completely official now.

And that guy will probably get sacked by MS for not holding his tongue.

 

[BolognaSoup]

Wow. Not only do the Xbox guys seem to be maybe making terrible decisions with this console, some of them are going out of their way to be pricks about it on Twitter. There's this and Major Nelson being a douche during the PS4 event.

Somebody should tell Adam Orth to get with the times and stop charging a fee to use Internet Explorer, Netflix, YouTube, and well...multiplayer in games people already paid for on his beloved Xbox.

 

[Roto13]

That's not even remotely true. When the electricity goes out I have tablets, smartphones, portable game systems, laptops, iPods, radio, etc. My home is loaded with battery powered gadgets. I should know I had to live for 15 days without electricity last year thanks to Sandy.

Also I own other devices that require Internet connections like several Roku streaming boxes. Honestly the truth is that I wouldn't even turn on my Xbox 360 to play if I didn't have Internet access. I have multiple systems and my games saves are stored in the cloud which means I would have to remember which system I last played the game on to not overwrite a save. Too risky, not worth it. Also many of my XBLA titles require an online connection because they are registered to a specific box or user account. Without Internet the only thing I would ever use my 360 for is to watch DVDs.

It's a good thing you speak for everyone. This would really suck if there were people who were more likely to want to play video games when their internet is out.

 

[KarmaCow]

"This doesn't affect me...
...unless Microsoft's servers shit the bed."

That's pretty much it, isn't it? At best always online is not a hindrance when it works but it's terrible when it doesn't work.

So why would consumers want this?

 

[Jarmel]

Tomorrow is going to be one of those workdays when you want to call in sick but you know you can't.

 

[gutter_trash]

suck for those who wanna bring their console over to the cottage

 

[Raven77]

Hindenberg...


that is all.

 

[Twilight Gap]

suck for those who wanna bring their console over to the cottage

"Why on earth would you wanna go there?"

 

[krypt0nian]

This is brilliant!

The road to next gen is already amazing! Hahahahaha

 

[Darkmakaimura]

That's not even remotely true. When the electricity goes out I have tablets, smartphones, portable game systems, laptops, iPods, radio, etc. My home is loaded with battery powered gadgets. I should know I had to live for 15 days without electricity last year thanks to Sandy.

Also I own other devices that require Internet connections like several Roku streaming boxes. Honestly the truth is that I wouldn't even turn on my Xbox 360 to play if I didn't have Internet access. I have multiple systems and my games saves are stored in the cloud which means I would have to remember which system I last played the game on to not overwrite a save. Too risky, not worth it. Also many of my XBLA titles require an online connection because they are registered to a specific box or user account. Without Internet the only thing I would ever use my 360 for is to watch DVDs.

You just don't get it, do you? Big difference between things that are mobile or handheld devices that work on batteries and electricity and the Internet. Barring large storms, electricity is still more reliable, more available and more consistent than an Internet connection. Electricity in the first world is practically essential for living. Your analogies are among some of the worst and you keep going in circles.

Again I will say according to you, you would be fine with a DVD/Blu-ray or CD player having to constantly be online because that's a much better comparison to a gaming console.

 

[scytherage]

There are people actually trying to defend this.
What the fuck is wrong with you?

That surprises me as well.

I think it's always good to give consumers a choice if they can. By forcing online, well, they're saying, we don't care about your situation. Either get connected or get out.

Which is really saying, go give Sony your money.

Microsoft really had it good for the past few years. It's probably a curse in the gaming biz that when you're on top, you're going to screw up with your next console, guaranteed.

 

[AgentChris]

This guy done fucked up. Get yo resume up to date.