ChosenPredator
Banned
looks beautiful but I could never for the life of me play that character and immerse myself.
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Fairy Fencer F (Compile Heart/Amano/Uematsu's Band) Screenshots
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A Huge Battleship
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I laughed in the other thread but I feel obliged to laugh here as well.
ahahahahaha
I feel exactly the same when I see stuff like this. Guess it's just how our brains are wired.
ahahahahaha
I feel exactly the same when I see stuff like this. Guess it's just how our brains are wired.
The sad thing is that the first Neptunia had pretty good AA, but they dropped it in the sequels.
Wonko_C
Member
I laughed in the other thread but I feel obliged to laugh here as well.
ahahahahaha
I feel exactly the same when I see stuff like this. Guess it's just how our brains are wired.
Guessing game time!
Dunno, Snake, Drake, Chris, dunno, dunno, dunno, Shepard, dunno, dunno, Jason Statham, is that you? dunno, some guy from Killzone probably, dunno, dunno, Alan Wake, another killzone guy I guess, dunno, Nico Bellic, Frank West.
Did I win?
nailbombxx
Member
Whats with this irrational hate for these characters?
Bassmastergeneral
Member
I guess I was dumb to expect something completely different but I think it looks great. I'll keep watching this. How well do the nisa published games do in the west?
dakkumauji
Member
Good enough for Compile Heart to keep making them in Japan and for NISA to keep bringing them over!
chickdigger802
Banned
I love me some cute and moe, but only if the game is good.
Shitty anime is tolerable, but playing games requires actual effort... So give me some cute good games.
Like fire emblem and Luigi mansion
Shitty anime is tolerable, but playing games requires actual effort... So give me some cute good games.
Like fire emblem and Luigi mansion
SpaceDrake
Member
What I really wonder is just how "Galapagos" the game will be, seeing as how Compile Heart has, to date, loved to aggressively export its titles.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Or you can legitimately hate the designs without any ulterior motive. I don't want to play a little girl's RPG, thanks.
Once you cross a certain barrier, it's just too much. Agarest War, Neptunia, that one Super Robot Wars, and to a significantly lesser extent, the Disgaea games, fall into this category.
If you want to see a "cute" style done right, look at Eternal Sonata. There is nothing remotely trashy about those designs - it's just a style of art, and it looks beautiful. This moe nonsense is horrible.
Meccanical
Member
Or people genuinely dislike it, but hey,keep flexing.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I laughed in the other thread but I feel obliged to laugh here as well.
ahahahahaha
I feel exactly the same when I see stuff like this. Guess it's just how our brains are wired.
Combo breaker
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I was responding to someone who wanted to know why people were so volatile towards the character designs with some humour. Maybe I should have added "/sarcasm" at the end?
Ironically enough your post could be seen as irrational (without reason, my interpretation of the dictionary definition might be too strict perhaps) considering your use of hyperbole and unsubstantiated statements.
I'm not too sure about this "barrier" thing. Actually it does bring to mind a previous experience where I was called a "faggot for playing Final Fantasy". I could combine both to come to the conclusion that the lack of manly men/"mature" style means that a game is targeted towards little girls. Is that close enough?
I've seen Eternal Sonata and you've given no compelling reason for why it's "done right". Your use of the word trashy implies you think the previous games you listed are trashy if I'm comprehending this properly. You also haven't given any reason for why Eternal Sonata's style is just a "style of art, and it looks beautiful" while this doesn't apply to the others mentioned. Considering the above I can't really agree with your points.
For the record I have no problems with people disliking things. I prefer it though when people describe in-depth why they think the way they do. I don't expect everyone to uphold this standard for every post made but you'll have to forgive me since I'm not exactly pliable to blanket/unsubstantiated statements/arguments.
Actually looks LESS "Galapagos" than their other games. Maybe they just wanted to make a more traditional JRPG and figured no one outside of Japan cared about those anymore? Doubt that'd get in the way of exporting because extra revenue's extra revenue ("free money" didn't seem right to say.)
I'm actually vaguely optimistic now, I'm sure they'll show something that puts me off, or on the flipside it'll just be a boring JRPG, but maybe the worst really will be moe-ish designs and occasional stupid humor? If that's as low as it gets and it has decent exploration and combat then I'll be for it.
Delusibeta
Banned
Well, Compile Heart is doing the character design, and presumably the story design at least. *sigh*
Oh, there you are Amano.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Didn't they announce that they were working on a PS4 title?
I only see a PS3 logo on the site so I guess it's still in the works.
I only see a PS3 logo on the site so I guess it's still in the works.
Dunno
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I wasn't really making a substantiated or sophisticated argument. I have an unabashed hatred for the moe design aesthetic. Eternal Sonata does not seem like moe to me because it's not a style that emphasizes little girls. Young girls are in the game, and are "cute" just like everything else in the game, yes, but they are not the primary focus.
A large part of this argument is irrational, yes. I realize that and would never try to make a valid argument against the style. But God, I hate it so much.
This:
Is terrible.
This:
Is not. I can't find the words for it, but there is (to me) a clear difference in design between these two art styles. One seems refined, and the other does not.
Also, I have no idea where you'd get the idea that the lack of manly men has anything to do with a hatred for the "moe" aesthetic, especially when Eternal Sonata of all games is used as a counter example. I love anime. I just hate moe.
I wasn't really making a substantiated or sophisticated argument. I have an unabashed hatred for the moe design aesthetic. Eternal Sonata does not seem like moe to me because it's not a style that emphasizes little girls. Young girls are in the game, and are "cute" just like everything else in the game, yes, but they are not the primary focus.
A large part of this argument is irrational, yes. I realize that and would never try to make a valid argument against the style. But God, I hate it so much.
This:
Is terrible.
This:
Is not. I can't find the words for it, but there is (to me) a clear difference in design between these two art styles. One seems refined, and the other does not.
Also, I have no idea where you'd get the idea that the lack of manly men has anything to do with a hatred for the "moe" aesthetic, especially when Eternal Sonata of all games is used as a counter example. I love anime. I just hate moe.
It's the eyes. Moe characters are pretty much defined by their eyes. But besides that, the colors, shadows, and shading give Eternal Sonata a better look too.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Well, if the game's cast was all male instead of all female would that change your opinion on the style of drawing? Based on what you've said the issue seems to be because they are the primary focus?
This:
Is terrible.
This:
Is not. I can't find the words for it, but there is (to me) a clear difference in design between these two art styles. One seems refined, and the other does not.
Also, I have no idea where you'd get the idea that the lack of manly men has anything to do with a hatred for the "moe" aesthetic, especially when Eternal Sonata of all games is used as a counter example. I love anime. I just hate moe.
Well one looks more realistic than the other. Eternal Sonata's characters are more realistic in proportions at least compared to Neptunia while Neptunia is more stylized and has some sci fi fantasy elements with the suit design. I wouldn't say either looks terrible, actually they both look pretty good to me.
The manly men then thing was poking fun at the stereotypical jocks who think that a game is for girls or homosexuals if it doesn't have guns and gore. I originally got the idea for that from the barrier and "little girl's RPG" comments. Maybe I should stop making jokes, or at least append a "/sarcasm" to the end.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Overly cutesy little boys would be just as bad. I guess my problem is not as much with the focus on girls as it is with the giant eyed cuteness. It's just... ehhhhh.
I'm not trying to attack you or anything. I apologize for sounding as such, though. You just happened to get caught up in a storm of moe hate. Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, and if you like Neptunia's designs, then, hey, that's fine. You'll probably like FFF just as well. To each his own.
Femmeworth
Banned
Notice how the boy isn't shown in any of the screenshots, excluding the UI.
I NEED SCISSORS
Banned
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
It's cool. I also apologize if I sounded like an ass, it's hard to tell whether you're behind the line or not when you're writing something.
He's on the site at least, and I really like his character design.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Hahaha this soooooo much
durrrrrrrrrr
Member
i don't have a problem with Compile Heart's generic moe style, but with Amano on board they should have gone for a different look. disappointing.
Black Door
Banned
I am also in the boat of wondering why they went through the trouble of creating a new label for this game, crowing about how it's made exclusively for "Japanese sensibilities," signing on Amano and Nobuo, "FF," etc. when this basically looks like Neptunia sans the computer theme and free-range movement in combat. Or maybe there's more to this like multiple worlds or something.
I honestly thought they were going make something along the lines of Okami and make an RPG based on super-obscure Japanese history or something
I honestly thought they were going make something along the lines of Okami and make an RPG based on super-obscure Japanese history or something
Compile Heart in on a roll. Another great addition to the game:
Toshiki Inoue is writing the story. He worked on Dragon Ball Z, Death Note, Kamen Rider and Dr. Slump.
Game is also set to release on September 19 (Japan of course).
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/2...creenwriter-is-writing-fairy-fencer-fs-story/
Toshiki Inoue is writing the story. He worked on Dragon Ball Z, Death Note, Kamen Rider and Dr. Slump.
Game is also set to release on September 19 (Japan of course).
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/2...creenwriter-is-writing-fairy-fencer-fs-story/
encephalon
Member
Stop and think how these resources could be used on something like a Grandia game.
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It's just a marketing slogan to try and bait their only real audience. And it didn't indicate being designed for Japanese sensibilities, rather that it would be unhinged and not attempt to be westernized.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Looks dumb.
dakkumauji
Member
Nice to see Compile Heart has used no expenses in updating their spell effects.
Well it did look cool before that.
Well it did look cool before that.
Edge_Maverick
Member
The 1st Trailer is finally here (contains Gameplay - field exploration, menus, battles, etc.):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmPqSEBHHzY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmPqSEBHHzY
dakkumauji
Member
I will say I kinda like the whole the weapon is someone else aspect. Very much like Soul Eater but this world is less dark looking.
Definitely looking forward to this if it gets localized.
This is the only reasonable explanation. Same reason Uematsu is working on that horribly creatively bankrupt Wind Waker clone. FFXIV must not have gotten him much.
Square Enix should buy up Compile Heart, and give Toryiama the studio for next-gen to work on Lightning games for all eternity.
2011 called, it want's its dubstep back. This kind of looks... like ass. Surprising.