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Gameindustry.biz article on Wii U: Death by SunhiLegend (post 346)
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Never say never.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
It will be impossible for Nintendo to own their own platforms in 10 years, so either they go third party of they vanish. I know which one is more likely.
michaelius
Banned
So when people say Nintendo is innovative they actually mean that they take someone else invention and make it standard in their console instead of optional ?
PS. Can you share some more data from that alternative reality where Eyetoy for PS2 never existed ?
They vanish? Nah I'd want them handheld only before that.
vagabondarts
Member
Why is it impossible?
You're not. As long as Nintendo releases must have games, they will be fine.
Yesterday they lost EA for at least a year, and NPD number showed they keep struggling at this price with their mere two Nintendo franchises.
Today they won Sega, Yakuza and finally set release dates for games lots of gamers can't wait to get their hands on.
Next Nintendo Direct is full of potential to turn things around in Q4. They can't afford to miss their second chance with another bad execution though.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Can you really imagine a closed platform gaming only piece of hardware existing in 10 years? Honest question. I just find it unfathomable.
Considering the likelihood of two extremely unlikely events is fascinating.
JetBlackPanda
Member
Next gen scares the shit out of me. Who's to say PS4 and Xbox do any better?
Nintendo has fucked up big time no doubt but I don't think these new consoles are going to fly off the shelves either. The PC market (steam) has eaten into a ton of the console market
Is Nintendo making money?!
Nintendo has fucked up big time no doubt but I don't think these new consoles are going to fly off the shelves either. The PC market (steam) has eaten into a ton of the console market
Is Nintendo making money?!
Holy Order Sol
Member
lol people still remember that
vagabondarts
Member
Sounds like exactly what I want, actually. Does everything need a freaking Facebook button?
My game of Dominos doesn't have a share button. Obsolete in ten years.
There's no need for them to talk their way out of anything. This is an opinion piece. Nothing more, nothing less.
Is the Wii U doing great, hell no. But it is nowhere near as bad as folks would have you believe. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
The way I see it, a lot of these people writh these doom and gllom articles over and over again in the hopes that Nintendo does fail, just so they can say "See, I was right all along."
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
The industry is hellbent on making Nintendo doomed. The Wii U is going to do terribly, but they'll still be around.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
This isn't about what you want, it's about looking at the way technology and consumer habits are going.
JetBlackPanda
Member
If that's the case were all fucked. Mobile games forever.
vagabondarts
Member
Oh. Well that changes everything.
I'll sell my gaming stuff and get IPad and android for my main gaming options. Pay to win!
Also, PS4 and Nextbox look good now, but is it going to be that different of a story this time next year?
But PC gaming is dead. I don't know how many people told us that a few years back.
Wickerbasket
Member
The Wii U won't force them out of the console business, but I'll go with your hypothetical situation for the sake of discussion.
If that did occur, they'd focus on their handheld business and continue to make games for that. People buy hardware for Nintendo software, if they didn't have that then their hardware wouldn't sell.
H_Prestige
Banned
I'm not seeing the hate in this article.
I guess the truth hurts for some people?
I guess the truth hurts for some people?
But then Steam came along. Where is Nintendo's Steam? How are they going to convince people that they need this, like they did the Wii?
They gambled and they lost. It happens.
We don't really know that. If numbers stay as abysmal as they are now, they may exit the home console business. And you are absolutely correct- At least for the time being they have the handheld market and that's huge. But there is also a chance that the market for handhelds dries up in the next few years as well... Point is, I don't see a company with such brand recognition to bow out completely because they can't release titles on their platform anymore.
I didn't say anything about innovating. You honestly think there would be more eye toy iterations if the Wii didn't take off?
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Emoticon of a smiley face rolling its eyes dot gif
Same ones that say Nintendo is going third party and doomed?? What do I win.
vagabondarts
Member
The handheld market is shrinking.
It's just a matter of time before it becomes irrelevant.
I'll bite: It's an incredibly opinionated piece for one tagged as "business" and "retail".
Schnozberry
Member
If you were to complete a sentence about Sony and Microsoft under those same standards, what would it entail?
You act as if losing one of the industries largest software publishers with the most successful IP would have no discernible effect on the industry. I think you're either trolling for giggles or are just being obtuse. Nintendo falling into obscurity would be disastrous for the industry overall, as it would mean an overall industry contraction, and far more people looking for fewer jobs. It would also mean other software companies would become even more averse to risk, leading to even more of the same old shit problem that has a lot of people walking away from console games altogether.
entremet
Member
Well Sony/MS are guaranteed better 3rd party support.
JetBlackPanda
Member
It's hard to see the hate when you, cyberheater, smokey, cloving, and breara collaborated on it together. A lot of it is facts some is hyperbole mixed with ridiculous speculation, and most of it sounds like Reggie personally shit in his cereal.
then put up some glasses and read:
"Nintendo can't compete with Microsoft and Sony, that's why they've pulled out of the E3 pissing contest." Yeah I'm sure that's the reason. Smartass.
"There's also today's announcement that Sega is handing publishing duties of Sonic the Hedgehog over to Nintendo, like Sonic the Hedgehog still means something to the games player. It doesn't, it's a tired old mascot who jumped the shark when Sega painted him black and gave him a gun."
I had a good laugh, though.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
How poor was initial 3DS performance compared to current Wii U performance? Because there is a strong difference between doing a U turn (lol) and performing a miracle.
So when will Nintendo's Rodimus light our darkest hour against PS4 Galvatron and Xbox Next Unicron?FALL FALL FALL
Article seems to be written be one angry bloke though.
StevePharma
Member
Much better than wii u
A brand new Tiger Game.Com! Enjoy.
Wickerbasket
Member
Then I guess they'll release a smart phone and publish for that exclusively?
I dunno what you want me to say, I'm not psychic.
I just doubt Nintendo going third party would be good for them, look at what happened to Sega.
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
Exactly.
People speaking out used to be rare as long as the console was successful. You wouldn't tell your mate that your conversations were inane while you were having great sex. The reality of the situation only starts to rear its ugly face when the sex is lackluster, the shouting matches commence, and as a result, you've been banished to the couch.
With the WiiU, there's been no sex for months, and you've essentially started to leave an indentation within the fabric.
Cheers to chastity!
Article was very entertaining and truthful by the way.
Good job Mr. Martin!
Hahaha I just wanted one of you to see it so I could share a laugh lol.
megashock5
Member
One day someone should make a twelve hour long documentary mini-series about this industry. It's history so far has been better than a soap opera.
The rise and fall of empires, on stage back-stabbing, moneyhats, surprise launches, $299, $599 US dollars, Atari coke parties, and whatever the hell that Konami conference was a couple years ago. It could be incredible.
The rise and fall of empires, on stage back-stabbing, moneyhats, surprise launches, $299, $599 US dollars, Atari coke parties, and whatever the hell that Konami conference was a couple years ago. It could be incredible.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
I don't have especially high opinions of Sony and Microsoft, but they understand the Internet (to varying degrees) and that is how consoles are going to innovative and provide selling points.
I'm talking about Nintendo as an influence in the industry in terms of setting trends with hardware. Which they have typically done with controls. The Nintendo of today, to me, is nowhere near the influence of trend setter it used to be. This isn't about their games, like you said their portfolio is powerful and of typically high quality. But it feels like they're no longer defining the future of console gaming. Sony and Microsoft will. Now, maybe they'll end up offering nothing people care about. Who knows. But whatever new things they bring to the table won't be inspired by Wii U.
Pilate!
JetBlackPanda
Member
I think Nintendo is in trouble (not as bad as some people seem to think) but some of you seem like you actively want Nintendo to fail, like they did something to you personally and its kind of creepy.
Do you guys know what the landscape would look like without Nintendo?!? I don't want to live in that world.
Do you guys know what the landscape would look like without Nintendo?!? I don't want to live in that world.
Gamer @ Heart
Member
Im going to go to lunch for the next half hour. When I get back, nintendo had better of turned this shit around.