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Gameindustry.biz article on Wii U: Death by SunhiLegend (post 346)
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PdotMichael
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so... You doesn't hope that Nintendo gets its shit together and improves lineup and hardware but you hope that Microsoft and Sony fail and and and?
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
So does Sega...
digoutyoursoul
Member
Just as I suspected
Smart answer.
Even smarter answer.
I meant, they still exists as a videogame company that makes new consoles.
You're right, it's not coincidental that it was published today as it contains news from today.
Ravensmash
Member
Absolutely brutal and very opinionated.
But that's just what I want from my opinion articles and I agree with the points raised. Great article.
Edit: "They will be drowned out by the bombast and great swinging balls of their rivals. What will the LA Times, Reuters, the BBC, Tech Crunch, Joystiq, VentureBeat, GamesIndustry International, Gamasutra and the rest of the media be prioritising during E3? Anything that can lift the console business up off its knees and give it an adrenaline shot. That's the real story here, and the Wii U is a boxout of what went wrong."
Wow, haha.
But that's just what I want from my opinion articles and I agree with the points raised. Great article.
Edit: "They will be drowned out by the bombast and great swinging balls of their rivals. What will the LA Times, Reuters, the BBC, Tech Crunch, Joystiq, VentureBeat, GamesIndustry International, Gamasutra and the rest of the media be prioritising during E3? Anything that can lift the console business up off its knees and give it an adrenaline shot. That's the real story here, and the Wii U is a boxout of what went wrong."
Wow, haha.
darkstar0155
Member
i would die and go to heaven if that was true
Interfectum
Member
The question we should all be asking ourselves is, will there be an article in 2015 entitled: The Last Console Generation: Death by Apathy
Dave Meltzer
Banned
You said "And the 'industry writers' come out to spit vinegar after another Nintendo Direct.". The implication being the timing of this article is related to the Nintendo Direct. Is that inaccurate?
vagabondarts
Member
I hope they are right that PS4 and Nextbox are the answer, because the industry will survive.
If they are wrong and PS4 and Nextbox receive tepid sales its going to be a rough 2014 for everybody.
equippedwithtowel
Member
All industries rely on a general trend of growth
WiiU failing leaves a vacuum just like Ps3 initially did (and could have been worse). That vacuum has to be filled and no matter how miraculous next gen consoles are they can't get themselves to that kind of mass marketability fast enough.
Enjoy your IOS future.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
He talks about the flipping sonic partnership announced during today's direct. Get the glue out of your eyes.
what?
vagabondarts
Member
Every Nintendo Direct ushers in articles about Nintendo Doom. This one just happens to coincide with EA 'announcing' again that they aren't bringing something else to the WiiU.
Also, what are PS4 and Nextbox's contribution to society? Inquiring minds must know.
How about the touch pad on the ps4 controller or idk the fact that Sony is touting vita and ps4 off screen play comparability ala wii u
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Do you not understand words? I'm saying Nintendo hasn't contributed any ideas or trends recently that are impacting the future of home consoles. Nintendo leaving the industry wouldn't leave us stagnated because they've not been contributing anything captivating since 2007.
Wuthering_Heights
Banned
Can't really disagree with anything said there.
Wii U has been a disaster so far.
Wii U has been a disaster so far.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Sony were doing that shit with PS3 and PSP. What has Nintendo done lately. 3DS and Wii U. Where's the great, new ideas that inspires the industry?
Yes, because what you value something at is automatically what everyone else does as well amirite?
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Oh I'm sorry do I need to put IMO at the end of every sentence?
That would be terribly impractical IMO, FYI. HTH.
SmellyHands
Member
Some poor guy/girl working on Fuse had his/her day unexpectedly shit on.
Bel_Air_Jeff
Banned
I still don't understand why all gamers expect the PS4 and the Nextbox to sell 5283957238957892 hardware units.
I think sales won't be that great for either..
Maybe not as bad as the Wii U.. but they aren't going to be great.
I bet ps3 and 360 both outsell their next gen counter-parts this holiday season.
Am i one of the few that thinks Nintendo will turn this around?
I think sales won't be that great for either..
Maybe not as bad as the Wii U.. but they aren't going to be great.
I bet ps3 and 360 both outsell their next gen counter-parts this holiday season.
Am i one of the few that thinks Nintendo will turn this around?
1. Psp remote play is atrociously laggy, not a standard feature, and lacks proper controller inputs.
2. You ignored the point about the touch pad on the controller which is directly taken from the Wii U.
3. The fact that there's going to be a kinect 2.0 and a new ps eye suggests that motion controls are still in, a trend that may I remind you Nintendo started.
These threads are so sad. I love my Wii U and there's good stuff being worked on so it'll be a good console long term. I think anybody who thinks Nintendo is doomed or going out of business is either delusional or has a short term memory. The article is tough,but there are some points in there. Looks like a lot of the forum posts summarized.
1) Of course they won't be as bad as the WiiU. That would mean that the industry is all but dead.
2) Define 'turn it around'. The Wii captured the casual audience. This didn't. The end.
vagabondarts
Member
The future of home consoles are PC's with controllers on them.
Also Nintendos value isn't only as an innovator, but as a stable competitor.
People in positions of power hope to upset Nintendo and have them turn 3rd party but I think they would just close shop and sell off pieces instead of doing that.
Nintendo leaving the industry would be devastating to me because I enjoy their games, but there's a multitude of other things to enjoy doing in life.
If Nintendo won't be contributing to the industry then I will do other things.
digoutyoursoul
Member
No it's true. Asda, Tescos have some great deals on games/systems
SmellyHands
Member
Anyone who isn't Nintendo or Ubisoft?
Of course they're never going to 'leave the industry'. They're going to continue making games, but the question is now whether they will do it on a console with a Nintendo logo on it
Dave Meltzer
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How is a touch pad on the controller directly taken from Wii U? Are you saying that touch controls haven't become ubiquitous with pretty much all modern tech? I'll give Nintendo props for being early to that party back in 2004. It's 2013. What is Nintendo doing with their most recent systems that is genuinely new and not just building on shit they did with the DS?
I said quite clearly Wii helped usher in new control schemes (sadly). The point is, if Nintendo vanished in 2007, what amazing ideas would we have missed out on? What would be detrimental to the industry if they vanished? We'd lose some good games, but that's not going to be damaging to the industry at large.
VeryGooster
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Nintendo has to really make E3 count, that much is obvious. It's already a bummer W101 is a September game. Lots of missteps? Yep. I don't get why the article needs vitriol to reiterate this, though.
Wickerbasket
Member
I don't think Nintendo will ever go third party, it just doesn't make business sense. Handheld only? Maybe.
vagabondarts
Member
I don't think they will do anything that isn't in their complete control, so no. I don't think they will be pulling a Sega anytime, ever.
They will do something in an industry they can have control over, whatever that is.
Represent.
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Agree 100% with the article, good read. Wiii U is nothing short of a disaster so far and it will need a massive turn around to change my mind. Hope Ninty can turn it around. And if they can't, at least learn from this and release a better console next time around.
Let's say that they are forced to exit the console business after the Wii U. You're suggesting that they would just sit on some of the most iconic franchises in entertainment and not do anything with them?