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[KiraXD]

started this discussion elsewhere and wanted to know what the detectives here thought.

Just noticed how similar (almost identical) the Logo used in Watch Dogs is to the Music Label OWSLA (the record label made by Skrillex (Sonny Moore)... note this is NOT a skrillex hate thread so leave that out of this please...)

Skrillex has had that logo long before Ubisoft came up with it, so im wondering if it has an alternate meaning or if it originated from something else?
(edit: found the logo designers website, http://brandonrike.com/skrillexs-owsla-logo )


OWSLA LOGO TOP(added 2 red lines and erased circle to show what ubisoft changed.)
WATCH DOGS LOGO BOTTOM (the bottom point is longer than OWSLA, and the middle lines connect and thats basically all ubisoft changed)

and heres the unedited OWSLA logo

it cant be just a coincidence, so im trying to figure out if it originated from something else?

The NAME: "OWSLA" originated from a book that Skrillex liked, called, Watership Down, about a group of (personified) rabbits trying to escape and form their own society. The Owsla were a military-type group of rabbits in the book in which the characters escaped from, or tried to escape from or something...

The book sounds like an anti-establishment-themed story which sounds like what Watch Dogs is going for as well... so if this logo was used at all in the book, i could understand the correlation. However after looking around for stuff from the book, ive not seen the logo anywhere except used by the original Designer, Brandon Rike, for the music label. As far as im aware he didnt/doesnt work for Ubisoft, and didnt design the watch dogs logo for them.

also im curious as to what constitutes enough changes in a logo that it can bypass trademark/copyright/whatever... since this particular one changed almost nothing aside from connecting pre existing lines.

i messaged the OWSLA logo designer to see what he thinks, and am waiting to hear back from him... i havent messaged ubisoft since i doubt they would respond

What do you guys think?

 

[Goomba64]

maybe the logo designer is a skrillex fan? its not identical, no big deal

 

[waypoetic]

Haha, oh wow. Yup that looks really similar to the OWSLA logo.

 

[careless mango]

EDIT: Yeah I'm leaning towards coincidence. It's just some basic lines making up a few letters over each other.

 

[Burt]

I think you should go read Watership Down.

 

[Sethos]

Just getting a broken image on the WD link and when I try to access it;

ERROR

The requested URL could not be retrieved

While trying to retrieve the requested URL the following error was encountered:

Read Error
The system returned:

(104) Connection reset by peer
An error condition occurred while reading data from the network. Please retry your request.

Footprint 4.8/FPMCP

EDIT: Fix'd

 

[Roo]

maybe the logo designer is a skrillex fan? its not identical, no big deal

you're kidding right?
Not identical but they can still sue Ubisoft.
I'm sure it qualifies as plagiarism

 

[sn00zer]

Geometric logos can look very similar.... im calling it more of a coincidence

 

[Mindlog]

Ubisoft stealing? Sounds plausible.

 

[Izick]

Yeah, it being a coincidence seems more likely.

 

[Valnen]

you're kidding right?
Not identical but they can still sue Ubisoft.
I'm sure it qualifies as plagiarism

Nah. The world is full of similar looking logos.

 

[iNvid02]

i thought there was something suspicious about that aiden pearce

turns out he is a rabbit

 

[legacyzero]

Looks like coincidence.

Who would look at a logo like that and suddenly became inspired by it?

 

[MYE]

Geometric logos can look very similar.... im calling it more of a coincidence

yup.

It happened to me before. Designed a logo, saw one almost exactly the same after a random google search

It happens

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

Watership Down is now simply "a book that Skrillex liked".

 

[nephilimdj]

Looks like something I would draw when I was 6 out of boredom on my school book. Random lines and triangles.

 

[KissVibes]

Watership Down is now simply "a book that Skrillex liked".

I heard they put that on the back of future printings.

 

[AtomicShroom]

The Watch Dogs logo looks more like an Arwing to me. Once you see it, you can't unsee it!

 

[Orpheus Telos]

The Watch Dogs logo looks more like an Arwing to me. Once you see it, you can't unsee it!

Thank you for ruining the logo for me. I didn't think it was very good in the first place, but now all i will think of is Star fox when i see it.

 

[ASTROID2]

The Watch Dogs logo looks more like an Arwing to me. Once you see it, you can't unsee it!

Wow your right.

 

[SJRB]

OWSLA got created in 2011.

Watchdogs has been in production for 5+ years.

There's no reason to assume that Ubi "stole" the logo, however the similarities are striking.

 

[usernamechange]

you're kidding right?
Not identical but they can still sue Ubisoft.
I'm sure it qualifies as plagiarism

No, it doesn't.

 

[cLOUDo]

ubisoft stealing?
no way

 

[XANDER CAGE]

"OWSLA" originated from a book that Skrillex liked, called, Watership Down, about a group of (personified) rabbits trying to escape and form their own society. The Owsla were a military-type group of rabbits in the book in which the characters escaped from, or tried to escape from or something...

The book sounds like an anti-establishment-themed story which sounds like what Watch Dogs is going for as well...

a book that skrillex liked

 

[KiraXD]

a book that skrillex liked

let me rephrase since this is turning into a subtle skrillex bash even though i asked for it not to.

"... Skrillex got the word OWSLA from the book, Watership Down, which he happens to like."

better?

OWSLA got created in 2011.

Watchdogs has been in production for 5+ years.

There's no reason to assume that Ubi "stole" the logo, however the similarities are striking.

yeah i totally wasnt thinking its been in development for so long... still to have the exact same logo is strange

 

[Baron van Dedem]

As A designer I say it's not stolen, we only take inspiration from all kind of stuff.

 

[disappeared]

It's completely impossible that those logos' respective artists simply put the same shapes together.

 

[KiraXD]

It's completely impossible that those logos' respective artists simply put the same shapes together.

well... its possible

yes designs are borrowed but come on... the shape is EXACT, connect all the lines together and both designs are the same.

 

[dirtywhirlwind]

It's a simple generic logo, and of course it will look similar if you strip out and add the things that separates them.

 

[disappeared]

I suppose I worded that post poorly.

 

[dorkimoe]

skrillex wouldnt care anyway

 

[javac]

The logo is supposed to represent how 'everything is connected' is it not? Coincidence? I think not!

 

[ElectricKaibutsu]

The Watch Dogs logo looks more like an Arwing to me. Once you see it, you can't unsee it!

Came to post this.

Watership Down is an excellent book. I don't remember that logo in the book or the creepy cartoon based on it.

Edit: Huh, I thought Skrillex was a girl. You learn something new every day.

 

[The Jason]

They are a little different.

I think the WD logo is suppose to look like a dog face and an antenna.

 

[Kariodude]

Oh shit. Overlapping triangles? Someone call the copyright police!

 

[LycanXIII]

well... its possible

yes designs are borrowed but come on... the shape is EXACT, connect all the lines together and both designs are the same.

Yeah, lines and triangles.

 

[KiraXD]

Oh shit. Overlapping triangles? Someone call the copyright police!

its actually a question...

 

[Alucrid]

skrillex just likes watership down because reading about rabbits mauling other rabbits is the only way he can really feel hardcore.

 

[SMT]

Who creates the laws of geometric creations?

 

[Lijik]

Brah you should really read Watership Down, chicks dig that nautical shit

 

[kassatsu]

.

 

[darklin0]

Coincidence? I think not! Rockstar should take them to court.


The shapes are similar but nothing that screams plagiarism. If you look at the geometry and proportions of certain parts, they are not exactly alike. (Talking about the the original post)

 

[Hexa]

They both copied this:

Seriously though, I don't think you need to copy a logo to get similar lines and triangles. Its not that complex.

 

[Christberg]

PSA: Watership Down is a classic novel that should be required reading by now.

 

[Scrooged]

Well, it's official.

Watch_Dogs will have the wub wub.

 

[Robot Pants]

Nah. They are 30 degree lines, just coincidence.

 

[Miletius]

Is it a kind of a dream? Floating out on the tide. Following the river of death downstream.....

PS: You should read the book. Who cares about some Skrillex logo.

 

[Fried Food]

They aren't even the same thing :|