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Spring Anime 2013 l OT One l All roads lead to this

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SDBurton

World's #1 Cosmonaut Enthusiast
OreImo S2 10 first fourteen minutes:

Did we go back in time? What on earth? And why did Ayase change outfits between phone calls? Kanako has worst memory confirmed.

OreImo S2 10 remainder:

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Will be watching it shortly, hyyyyyyyype!
 

Theonik

Member
You actually watched the Rapeman? :lol It's so bad and hard to watch but like a trainwreck you can see coming a mile away it's hard to look away. Really vile shit though.

I found out about it because of a fan/abridged dub series of like three videos that someone put on youtube that are fukkin gold (kinda NSFW, but it's also youtube so yeah):

Rapeman Begins
Rapeman Returns
Rapeman Forever
But of course, after Wonzo posted about it I knew I had to witness this masterpiece first hand and yes it is pretty self avatar quote worthy at times but frankly, it's so dumb it becomes a mockery of itself which if what I read about the original source is true was the intent anyway.
 

FelixOrion

Poet Centuriate
But of course, after Wonzo posted about it I knew I had to witness this masterpiece first hand and yes it is pretty self avatar quote worthy at times but frankly, it's so dumb it becomes a mockery of itself which if what I read about the original source is true was the intent anyway.

Now the question remains: to put it on your MAL/Hummingbird or no.
 

PsionBolt

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Dokidoki Precure - 19

Not a lot to say today because sleepy. But it was another great episode.

I like how competent the villains are this season.

Queen frozen at the north pole or wherever indicates that she is neither Regina nor Ai. That's kind of interesting. She's definitely still Ace, though.
 

Midonin

Member
Doki Doki! Precure 19

Just like when Smile did this, it's all about cheating and counter-cheating. Unless you're Mana, who can kick a soccer ball like Kamen Rider Wizard, because she is the next queen of the world and all who inhabit it. The MotW kinda reminded me of those coin purse monsters in Mario Bros. I was waiting for somebody to ground pound it. Also amazed that Ai, despite not being old enough to speak, can both serve as a ref for a dodgeball game (if you can dodge a wrench...) and actively participate in the cheating by maximizing a bowling ball's potential to take down like, 100 pins.

Loved seeing Regina and Makopi act all defensive. And speaking of defense, Alice isn't quite up to Komachi levels yet, but she did use her shield powers to her best. And her ability to turn a bowling ball into a missile. (That's the first time I've ever seen co-op bowling.) But the most interesting parts came near the end. Regina got all the Royal Crystals together, and they did.... something.

Based on the preview
Ai is NOT the Queen's reincarnation, since she's frozen like a caveman way up north. And I was so certain of that theory, too. Is she Ace? Or is it still going to be Regina? I please hope it's Regina.
 
The 2012 version of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is serviceable, too.
I've only gotten through the Phantom Blood part of the new series, but I've heard people call parts of the show really good, but also pretty disappointing because some action scenes are just pictures that pan across the screen. Is that true?
 

cnet128

Banned
I've only gotten through the Phantom Blood part of the new series, but I've heard people call parts of the show really good, but also pretty disappointing because some action scenes are just pictures that pan across the screen. Is that true?

It's true that the show as a whole is seriously lacking in animation, but I wouldn't call it disappointing. The studio has managed to make it look great with what little animation it has, to the point where the low production values never really even bothered me. If you've enjoyed the beginning parts, I very much doubt you'll fail to enjoy the rest. It's a great show.


Shingeki no Kyojin 10

Armin, you so awesome. Fuck yeah.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Also, about Attack on Titan, how many chapters of the manga are they adapting per episode? A lot of the dialogue in here feels like it serves no purpose but to fill the screen time. Not a lot happened in episode ten.
I've only gotten through the Phantom Blood part of the new series, but I've heard people call parts of the show really good, but also pretty disappointing because some action scenes are just pictures that pan across the screen. Is that true?
There's not a sudden jump in animation quality from Phantom Blood to Battle Tendency, if that's what you are asking. What you see is what this cartoon is (aside from episode 20, natch).
 

FelixOrion

Poet Centuriate
Clannad 21

I am treated to post-OP chillness with boobs and stretching everywhere. And now, upon retrospect, I ask: why?

Touching little montage through time. I think I need to find the soundtrack sometime.

Aww, try again later, Tomoya. Nagisa is really just too hard on herself, but it's just so tragically adorable.

I already have. If only to see my new recommendations which is weird because I don't tend to add this sort of thing on my lists.

true enough, what did you give it as a score?
 

Narag

Member
Also, about Attack on Titan, how many chapters of the manga are they adapting per episode? A lot of the dialogue in here feels like it serves no purpose but to fill the screen time. Not a lot happened in episode ten.

There's not a sudden jump in animation quality from Phantom Blood to Battle Tendency, if that's what you are asking. What you see is what this cartoon is (aside from episode 20, natch).

Episode 15 is like the lowest of the low points too.
 

Tamerlane

Banned
Thanks for the great reply!

Heh, while I understand people's wish to forget C, I don't think you're doing Nakamura a favor by going out of your way to pretend it doesn't exist. The existence of a bad show he directed doesn't diminish his talent, it just means that no one's perfect. Even great creative minds can miss the mark.

True, but I haven't watched all of it. It would also not be something to tribute him for lol. I think you're broadly correct though, given that there isn't that big of a sample size of this guy's work

Besides everything you point out, I think the most salient feature of Nakamura's direction is angular editing - sudden jump cuts where the logical spatial/temporal progression between each is not always clear, creating a disorienting and unsettling feeling. I have to wonder if working at Toei influenced the development of this trait, as it's a way to use limited animation for artistic effect.

This is an excellent point. The construction of space is a recurrent theme for him.

Hmm, I don't know if naturalism is exactly the right word here. Nakamura's work is too heavily stylized and exaggerated. It's not observational enough to be naturalistic.

Yeah, I didn't intend "naturalism" as in the 19th century artistic movement sense. I meant more the modernist interpretation, in that it represents how things are felt/perceived rather than the assumption of some Platonic, neutral conception of nature.

Trapeze is definitely garish, though it works within the context of the show.

Yeah "clashing" is probably a better word there. As you point out, my word choice was kind of iffy throughout this. Huffing the fumes of hyperbole can do that

I get what you're trying to say here - a contrast with more typical ways of building an atmosphere of horror - but I don't think it's accurate to say that Mononoke doesn't use obscurity. The whole style of direction, which leaves the viewer unsure at times as to what is real and what is merely within the minds of the characters, can be quite obscure. The presence of the monsters is signified not by its visual appearance, but by its effect on the seals and other tools the Medicine Seller uses. Each story is a process of the Seller gradually unmasking the truth behind them; it's not clear from the beginning.

Yeah from a storytelling POV it's very obscure. Visually, however, despite the multiple exposure effect it used for ghostliness, it didn't conform to the style of most horror.

Mononoke makes it very clear by the end of each story that the sole cause of the terror is the moral transgressions of the humans involved.

But that ambiguity during the storylines themselves is what gives it such a great atmosphere.

As someone who has struggled with mental illness, I respect and appreciate Trapeze's portrayal of it. Despite its quirky sense of humor, it shows sensitivity and human warmth towards each patient. It doesn't mock them for being messed up.

I don't think that's fair to say. It's not about severe mental illness - the kind that gets you placed in a mental hospital - or presenting a medical course of treatment for various disorders, yes. But it is about the human mind, the odd quirks and obsessions that grow to be debilitating and destabilizing, the disintegration of the self that can cause them, and how to accept the various parts of the self and reintegrate them into a healthy whole. That is psychology.

I probably should've clarified I was referring more to the visual style/aesthetics. The style of direction doesn't change with each patient to provide a means of experiencing their condition, outside of a few gags. In that sense, while it's a show about psychology and deals with psychological themes, I don't think it's a window into psychological illness or conveys the experience all that well. Probably a better way to describe it would be it's a show about being a psychologist, and Irabu is the audience insert.

That's not a cliche, that's a fundamental storytelling technique - the dramatic climax. The last episode, which does an amazing job of providing such a climax to an episodic show, is not about the "importance of mental health" per se, but about the importance of recognizing those who are struggling with mental issues and coming alongside them to support them instead of turning a blind eye.

It's not cliched in Trapeze, but there is a tendency, even among good shows, to force a dramatic climax by ramping up the seriousness when it doesn't need to (Hyouka avoided this problem). Utena and Eva are the most notable examples. For the record I really liked the ending of Trapeze, and Utena and Eva. It's not bad on face.

The point of magical realism is that the magical side doesn't overwhelm things to be point it becomes an out-and-out fantasy.

Magical realism is an imprecise as fuck term, but I think, excluding the last 4 episodes, the alien/secret organization stuff is just simply not featured that much. Nor did it need to be.

It is the least aggressively weird of Nakamura's shows (though still quirky in its own ways), but I wouldn't go so far as to call it "fairly standard". Its attention to careful, nuanced character development and growth, mixed with its science fiction elements, marks it as a rare breed among anime.

"Fairly standard" in concept. It's execution is outstanding and a great representation of social anxiety. But to me it felt less audacious when compared to Mononoke/Trapeze

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. The point of Gesamtkunstwerk, as Wagner conceived it, is the exact opposite of "frankenstein" - it's to take elements that have previously been separated from each other (so music, poetry, acting) and make them work together towards a common dramatic purpose to create one unified whole. In an ideal film, time, sound, and narrative are not extra layers of incidental commentary added on top of the primary visual image, but elements that work in conjunction with the visual image to create the desired effect.

That was a pejorative, since I really don't like Wagner and think his aesthetic theory is junk. This is probably a bigger discussion than the scope of anime tho so maybe we should leave it at that.

Pretty much everything has some kind of precedent somewhere, even if it's just the deliberate avoidance of convention. No artwork is created in a vacuum. Pure originality does not exist. It's the combining of existing elements in a fresh way that is the mark of a great artist.

To an extent, yeah, but there are relative degrees of originality. I prefer Nakamura's well-wrought aesthetic styles over the average Shaft work which combines things for the sake of combining things. Nakamura's shows have extreme attention to detail for an anime and analyzing them from a visual arts perspective seems more fruitful than analyzing them from a film perspective.
 

CorvoSol

Member
Slayers NEXT 16

So it's an episode about tennis. Lina plays tennis to humiliate Martina and vice versa, meanwhile, apparently there's a clue about the Clair Bible in it for the winner. At least, that's what Xellos claims, and why these people are continuing to trust Xellos is beyond me. It can only be because
they don't know he's a Monster yet.

Still, it was a funny episode. Poor Zel. Don't frown, Zel! Amelia likes you even if you're a demon-golem hybrid!
 
I never had a problem with the production values/animation in Phantom Blood, so if the rest is more of the same then that's fine with me. Thanks!
 
Attack on Titan 10:
Armin is awesome. He's great with words. It's a big contrast going from him talking to Captain Wellman, who is just obnoxious at every turn. This episode didn't necessarily have a lot of action, but it was important both for the plot and for Armin's development. It felt like a much more consistent episode than the previous two did.

Also, about Attack on Titan, how many chapters of the manga are they adapting per episode? A lot of the dialogue in here feels like it serves no purpose but to fill the screen time. Not a lot happened in episode ten.

This episode covered up through the first few pages of Chapter 12 (but some of the earlier material was taken from flashbacks that come later on in the manga). They've been going at a pretty good pace (remember this is a monthly manga, so chapters are about 45 pages long). This whole bit was long and talky in the manga, too.
 

trejo

Member
Muromi 10

If thinking Yeti is the most adorable thing ever makes me a furry then shove me inside a fur suit and spank me silly cause gawddamn she is precious.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Secretly? It seems pretty open to me.
But even the ones who tried to deny it! EVERYONE is a siscon!

You should be ashamed that you can actually remember this.
I just noticed that her hood is that airmail striped color thingie.

KENJI NAKAMURA IS ANIME GOD TRIBUTE POST
So I take it you haven't heard of [C]: Control - The Money of Soul and Possibility from 2011? I don't know much about it myself, but it seems as though people weren't very favorable towards it.

I was just going to say if people are already retconning C from reality. :p
 

Metrotab

Banned
Attack on Titan - 10

That was some serious shounen time dilution going on there.

I don't understand how Erin is
gonna close the gap. Looks pretty damn huge to me.
 
Bleach 15 - 16 (neon alley)
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I miss the days when Number One would play litrally every episode and instrumental too, cant remember if I said that last week but it still follows this week as well both episodes and just for a variety of characters. Ichigo v Renji was so intense considering their power levels but then that scene when Renji surprises him. I miss retro bleach.

Also for Jinta, if Kubo doesnt give him backstory and then for the other classmates, if Tatsuki, Keigo, Mizuiro, Mr. Hat and Clogs, Yoruichi and co arent relevant at all for the final arc, huge crime for neglecting them
 

cnet128

Banned
Aku no Hana 10

I've taken to eating lemon sorbet while watching this anime. It's sour and cold, and at times I feel like it's physically hurting the inside of my mouth and throat, but at the same time it's sweet and delicious. It's all in a big block that's surprisingly difficult to cut into manageable pieces with my spoon, because it slips and slides all over the goddamn place and slowly deforms into misshapen chunks. But at the same time, it forms a sickly puddle of sharp-tasting juice that I can drink down and revel in the sheer overpowering flavour.

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EDIT: protip, watch this episode in a dark room.
 

survivor

Banned
Clannad 5

Either the quality of the comedy increased in this episode or Fuko is just naturally a funnier character than the rest of the characters so she made the comedy much better.

I really hope there is some good payoff for her little arc when it concludes.
 

CorvoSol

Member
Mobile Suit ZZ Gundam 34

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

KAMILE IS BACK!
If this works the way I want it to, this will be the new best non-G Gundam.
 
Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet 6:
So much T & A this episode. It was really weird, and I don't know that it was really helpful in any way.

This episode continued the relaxing feeling that this show has given me so far. There was some great comedy, and some really nice character interactions. I loved the scene in the second half of the episode where
Ledo was playing the flute and talked with Amy, and then asked her to dance. While the earlier dance scene felt gratuitous, this scene felt very personal and sweet. It was just a very nice character moment for both of them.
A big point over the previous few episodes has been how Ledo is out of place and unfamiliar with the way things work, and also his lack of understanding when it comes to desire. His scenes with Pinion (in anime's budding bromance of 2013) both underlined this, and also showed the beginning of a change for him.
By the end of the episode, Ledo has decided that he wants to do salvage work, and has finally grasped the concept of having his own desires. Even as Chamber tells him that the things he's doing aren't necessary and he should just remain on standby, Ledo begins to posses his own agency and comes into control of himself, perhaps for the first time in his life. Tragically, just as he's beginning to posses these desires and come to peace with this new way of life, the Hideauze show up and all of his soldier instinct bubbles right back.
 

Metrotab

Banned
Highschool DxD OVA 2

This was pretty much the same thing as the first OVA. Not complaining though, characters are as entertaining as ever.

I'm ready for season 2.
 
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