Support NeoGAF

[nhlducks35]

Looks like it's all coming true with the news of the slogan at E3.

"One box. Input 1" to "All in one. Input One."

Link to PDF courtesy of Artist
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0iImq1q0Y-SaUdSWjI5aUVJNVE/edit?pli=1

 

[BlazingDarkness]

'All in One (plus your cable box')
Doesn't quite have the same ring to it...

 

[kasane]

So that thing in the PDF was the new ad right? One box. Input 1?

 

[corn_fest]

Yep. Looks like MS will be putting a lot behind their dumb Glass knockoff.
I wonder if the privacy backlash against Glass will make them reconsider their strategy.

 

[StevieP]

'All in One (plus your cable box')
Doesn't quite have the same ring to it...

Telcos themselves are why there is an hdmi in, and why you still require a cable box.

 

[civilstrife]

Can't wait for the Google Glass ripoff in 2014.

 

[McDougles]

"Enjoy multiple experiences at a time."

They got 5 of the words correct.

 

[artist]

Not just that, I posted this few weeks back. TV & NFL;

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=58791941&postcount=28

Also, holy shit at that NFL thing turning out true;

For what it's worth, the doc mentions $299 as the launch pricepoint.

 

[Wolves Evolve]

Is anybody remotely interested in AR gaming glasses?

Outside of Bay Area advertising vampires?

 

[Plinko]

2014 Xbox Live services:

"Real-time information on people, places, and objects."

After the recent news, Is that for the government or for consumers?

 

[Dizzy]

Yep. Looks like MS will be putting a lot behind their dumb Glass knockoff.
I wonder if the privacy backlash against Glass will make them reconsider their strategy.

lol. With the way MS has been recently, i very much doubt it.

 

[Raymo]

I think i remember hearing sometime soon after the February event that Sony was quoted as saying their goal was to be input 2 on your television. Does anyone else remember that and have a link? Pretty interesting coincidence.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

In 2013 they mention games, then the following years there is nothing. Nice future.

 

[BigDug13]

It makes total sense now. They stuck with the plan they made 3 or more years ago without changing course based on real life. They're blindly moving forward with zero barometers sensing the changing winds and the heavy consumer resistance.

 

[Volotaire]

Can't wait for the Google Glass ripoff in 2014.

yep.

 

[Brimstone]

Yeah it is very underwhelming. Google Glass + Cloud is boring.

 

[Plinko]

$299 price point would be interesting to say the least.

 

[BluePigGanon]

Is anybody remotely interested in AR gaming glasses?

Outside of Bay Area advertising vampires?

No all that stuff sounds stupid to me, but who knows...

 

[Off-Kilter]

Holy shit. I remember how quick I was to write off that leak. lol

 

[Sweet Aunt Nancys Panties]

Can't wait for the Google Glass ripoff in 2014.

Fortalezza is a ripoff of Google Glass now?

 

[QuantumBro]

$299 price point would be interesting to say the least.

It would have to be the subsidized price, there's no way Microsoft could launch at only $299.

 

[Yondy604]

Nice find man

 

[Deku Tree]

Interesting. I am becoming less and less interested in MS Xbox plans.

 

[artist]

In 2013 they mention games, then the following years there is nothing. Nice future.

That is why they plan on introducing Fortaleza and cloud to "energize" the market in the following years, just like Kinect.

After that they will introduce Cloud streaming (Gaikai) so you can game on every device.

 

[Courage]

A $300 launch price would be insane.

 

[Beermeister]

2014 Xbox Live services:

"Real-time information on people, places, and objects."

After the recent news, Is that for the government or for consumers?

Guess.

 

[Juice]

Wow. Definite leak given the banner at E3.

Super lame. All of it. The more I learn about Xbox One, the more it feels like the console Microsoft really wanted to make all along, but realized that it couldn't going the WebTV route.

Xbox and Xbox 360 weren't only loss leaders to pay for market share, they were *fun* leaders as well, it seems. :-(

 

[harSon]

A $299 price point would be huge

 

[Plinko]

I've got to be quite honest--the "plans" for 2014 and beyond sound horribly boring.

 

[Social]

Quite amazing. The glasses bit... just waw

 

[nib95]

I promised some peeps I'd delete that shit after I saw it, and I stuck to my word. So I no longer have the full thing, but i really would like to take another look at it. It's true, pretty much everything came true, including the specs, focus, direction etc.

 

[SPDIF]

How can something that was likely discussed in 2008/09 and then leaked in 2010 be considered a Glass knock-off?

 

[Toski]

I'm intrigued by the 2015 features. It seems "Xbox" will become more of a service and less of a hardware platform. I wonder if Halo 5 will work natively with PC hardware, or will it need to be streamed through the cloud.

 

[A Human Becoming]

That is why they plan on introducing Fortaleza and cloud to "energize" the market in the following years, just like Kinect.

After that they will introduce Cloud streaming (Gaikai) so you can game on every device.

Sony owns Gaikai, so you must mean something else.

 

[speedline]

A $300 launch price would be insane.

There are many of us who want nothing to do with this thing at any price.

 

[vilmer_]

I worked for AT&T, Uverse specifically as tech support 3 years ago and was told everything here over the phone by another AT&T rep and I thought it was a joke :lol

 

[nhlducks35]

Even the cloud was mentioned

 

[Guy LeDouche]

fwiw, Paul Thurrott said MS initially planned to have $299 subsidized/$499 unsubsidized; now he says the subsidy idea has been scrapped and that it will be $499, one sku.

 

[artist]

Full document; https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0iImq1q0Y-SaUdSWjI5aUVJNVE/edit?pli=1

Sony owns Gaikai, so you must mean something else.

Obviously a competing (similar) service.

 

[UrbanRats]

There are many of us who want nothing to do with this thing at any price.

Sure, but it would still be huge for the market in general.

 

[Plinko]

I was obviously joking earlier in the thread about the Xbox Live services/watching stuff, but I'd have to think they'll be backing off that advertising point now.

 

[USC-fan]

Full document; https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0iImq1q0Y-SaUdSWjI5aUVJNVE/edit?pli=1




Obviously a competing (similar) service.

Thanks i was just asking for this in the other thread!

So we had the business plan leak and also the full dev doc.

 

[nib95]

So is the $299 price point a subscription subsidised one?

 

[Coxy]

I wouldnt take it as gospel as the specs listed seem quite different

 

[Lunchbox]

$299 price point would be interesting to say the least.

it would be gafs worst nightmare cause that shit would light up the charts

wont happen, 399

 

[Volotaire]

So is the $299 price point a subscription subsidised one?

Would definitely be, no way they can subsidise it otherwise.

 

[artist]

I wouldnt take it as gospel as the specs listed seem quite different

Obviously but most of it still is relevant and to a large degree. Forwarding this to Nintendo and Sony now ..

 

[Striek]

This PDF is a big reason I laugh when people say $499, the other reason being the hardware itself.

Coming off the longest generation ever, the Xbox One represents the second smallest leap from its predecessor ever (first is the Wii). Everything about it (and most things about the PS4) screams "we want to keep costs really low and hit a low entry price". Now whether that price is $300, $350 or $400 remains to be seen. Wont go higher.

 

[Doctor_Thomas]

You know.... I can see $299.... they take the hit on the box and aim solely for market pentration and make the money back on subs and due to the restrictions they should still make money off anyone who buys the box very quickly.

That worries me.

 

[faridmon]

If its $300 (£200) I think I am sold. At that point, I don't care about DRM

Spoiler

sorry guys

EDIT: I have to add without any subscription!

Also, Mirrors Edge 2. Woot!

....

If PS4 is around that ballpoint, then I may have to get the PS4 instead.