Let MS bend you over and fuck you up the ass?
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Xbox Ones Game DVR, SmartMatch, NFL, TV Guide Restricted To Xbox Live Gold Members
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Let MS bend you over and fuck you up the ass?
hydrophilic attack
Member
This feature serves as free user-generated marketing for games.
Makes sense to make people pay for it!
Makes sense to make people pay for it!
Tripolygon
Banned
You have the choice to pay for oxygen or get use to breathing carbon dioxide.
Just so people know, the link in your tag leads to:
Neuromancer
Member
To be fair I kind of wish I could use my own batteries on the PS3/4's controller.
Tripolygon
Banned
Maybe he likes being bent over?
Mistwalker
Member
Microsoft doesn't listen because enough people are willing to pay them anyway.
Demanding better in this case means being willing to not buy an XBox One at all so long as these policies are in place. The only way MS will ever change is if they believe they're losing more money by charging than not.
See? "Sucks, but what can you do...?" I'll tell you: don't buy their hardware if you think it's a screw job. Grumbling about it is meaningless if you're doing it while forking over your money.
Refraining from letting them get away with it also means the XBox you buy tomorrow instead of today will have less bullshit attached, but I'm constantly amazed at the number of people who--even realizing all this--still manage to actively not care.
statham
Member
Join the eneloops fanclub. Its nice on this side.
Tylahedras
Banned
They should use that always on Kinect to only let you have a girlfriend if you pay for xb-live.
Kinect should scan for women when you are not in the room and then whisper, "dump him, he has a tiny penis."
If you pay for live it will whisper, "he's rich and has a big penis."
Kinect should scan for women when you are not in the room and then whisper, "dump him, he has a tiny penis."
If you pay for live it will whisper, "he's rich and has a big penis."
Neuromancer
Member
Exactly.
SwiftDeath
Member
Yeah especially as their $60 controller only includes a place to put a battery/batteries whereas their closest competitors controller includes a battery from the get go at the same price......
Overdelivering on value
Fully realize you were being sarcastic btw
SEGAvangelist
Member
I'm saying MS putting it behind a pay wall to begin with was justified at the time since it was a premium service with no real living room competition. How is that asinine?
Just so people know, the link in your tag leads to:
I'm aware, yes. I'm sure it makes you feel great.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Slow news day.
theviolenthero
Member
It's firmware - it's going to be software sold with hardware day one, else the hw won't do anything.
statham
Member
seventynine
Member
How long before the U-turn then?
Incredibly miserly of them.
Incredibly miserly of them.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Did anyone expect different?
idrinkalone
Banned
SwiftDeath
Member
it includes AA batteries, energizers I believe
Really?
My mistake then
I won't bother editing my previous statement as that might be construed as being disingenuous
Tylahedras
Banned
I'm trying to give them other suggestions to get people to sign up. Clearly that's the goal.
it includes AA batteries, energizers I believe
Guessing non rechargeable?
TrojanBlade
Member
alright GAF start making noise and MS will probably do a 180 on this too lol
not_so_special
Banned
these are free or something?
Gamescom at the lastest. If not by then, then probably never unless PS4 completely dominates them saleswise and Xbox Ones are being left on the shelves.
It would be pretty stupid if this turns out to be a stunt and they pull a "see we listen to consumers, apps and stuff are not behind paywall anymore" in their gamescom showcase rather than just outright announcing that they're no longer behind the paywall.
TheApatheticOne
Member
I've never understood why everyone is so passionate about their hatred towards XBL. If you look for deals AT ALL, Ive gotten every year of XBL for $30-$35 bucks. I know paywalls are the devil, PC online gaming is free, etc. and that's fine. I get not liking that stuff.
I just have a hard time understanding how so many can drop thousands on their hobby their passionate about, and then be up in arms over $2.50 a month for what, IMO, is a solid online service. :/ I know, Im part of the problem.
More on topic, not surprised, and can't believe people are surprised.
I just have a hard time understanding how so many can drop thousands on their hobby their passionate about, and then be up in arms over $2.50 a month for what, IMO, is a solid online service. :/ I know, Im part of the problem.
More on topic, not surprised, and can't believe people are surprised.
RedNumberFive
Banned
So say I were to charge you $5/month to bypass a barrier that prevents you from retrieving a magazine from your mailbox...
Would you call that asinine or a "premium service"?
Ol No Bones
Banned
To use these consoles as intended you need to subscibe. Just how it is.
I don't think many will have either an Xbox One or PS4 and not have Xbox Live or PS+, so the whole uproar about what's locked and what isn't really feels like nothing but manufactured console wars bullshit where people are appalled that features they won't use on a console they won't buy will be locked behind a service they won't pay for.
As someone that has both Live and PS+, I'm glad when stuff gets added to them. I don't really understand being angry about more stuff, doubly so when it's not on a console you own or even plan to own.
As someone that has both Live and PS+, I'm glad when stuff gets added to them. I don't really understand being angry about more stuff, doubly so when it's not on a console you own or even plan to own.
theviolenthero
Member
If that's the case then you should start a "What feature should MS put behind a paywall to get people to buy a gold subscription" thread.
This thread is specifically about the Game DVR feature being behind the Gold Paywall.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
And what did they do after the competition started to catch on and actually do better? Bumped Netflix from xbl silver to gold... They could of kept it free but they didn't.
Iced_Eagle
Member
What does the Gold requirement have to do with hardware? There is dedicated hardware for video encoding, just like the PS4.
Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-spec-analysis-xbox-one
Microsoft has to listen to their investors.
I'm suprised this hasn't turned into:
But Youtube
But Ads
But subscription
but Ads
But Bandwidth
But Ads
BUT PS+!
hydrophilic attack
Member
You should never be happy when things are put behind a paywall that should be free. There are times I do not have Gold and would love to watch Netflix, but guess what?
I actually think it is okay if they put multiplayer only behind a paywall as long as the online infrastructure is improved with that money.
You think wrong then. Even the 360 with its various blocked behind paywall features/being "worthless without a gold sub" has less than 30 million gold subscribers out of the 76 million consoles sold.
Tylahedras
Banned
Nah. I prefer posting here where people clearly don't get overly defensive on the subject.
It's stuff like this that makes me wonder what exactly do we own after spending $500. This is a hardware feature that using harddrive space and your internet bandwith to upload video to Twitch or Youtube right? What are we paying microsoft for? It's bad enough hiding videos and movies on sites that are not microsoft releated.
It like we are paying microsoft so they can buy up exclusive content to prevent us from having a choice.
It like we are paying microsoft so they can buy up exclusive content to prevent us from having a choice.
Zatoichi's Cane
Member
I love enloops, but I prefer a built in solution. It will always be less bulky, more streamlined than a AA/AAA battery option.
NobleGundam
Banned
Expected. Pretty sure their Family Sharing was limited to only Gold Members for that 60mins Demo within the group and accessing Games Library...
Of course this BS will happen.
Of course this BS will happen.
statham
Member
No, but I use them for 2 controllers, my digital camera and TV remote.
They have cheaper sets, but this is probably the best deal.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B51D6NQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
The new XB1 controllers don't have that hump anymore (thanks goodness)
LukasTaves
Member
Personally I don't care about things behind a paywall because I would already pay to game online on the console (Live alone is a big reason to always try to play a multiplayer game on 360, i just find the experience so much better than anywhere else), but yeah don't see any benefit on Ms keeping those stuff behind a paywall. At this point they are letting Sony ride in a sea of good will and even though they also started charging for online they are seen as the good guys that don't put unreasonable stuff under a paywall.
I mean, no other benefit other than direct profits, but I guess that in the long run that is damaging them far more than it's doing good.
Not that I don't agree with your point about 3rd party services behind a paywall, but puh-lease on the bold part. Are we now at a point where the online gaming experience on Live is not but an illusion? Or that it's inconceivable that for lots of people it's by itself worth of what they charge for?
I mean, no other benefit other than direct profits, but I guess that in the long run that is damaging them far more than it's doing good.
Not that I don't agree with your point about 3rd party services behind a paywall, but puh-lease on the bold part. Are we now at a point where the online gaming experience on Live is not but an illusion? Or that it's inconceivable that for lots of people it's by itself worth of what they charge for?