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Fighting Games Weekly | August 12-18 | No Money All Problems

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Week of August 12th to the 18th, 2013.

Fighting Games Weekly is the weekly discussion thread for all things fighting games. News, events, streams, videos, players, drama, everything fighting game related.

Don't know what to watch right now? Check the FGCPros Twitch Group or Jaxel's Stream Viewer. If you want to watch multiple streams at once, you can use Jaxel's customizable multiviewer as well.

New to FGC-GAF is the FGC-GAF Index which lists the fighting games GAFers plays as a neat reference with some rough statistics to boot. To add yourself to the index, quote this post and use the survey link below. Please remember to save/bookmark the "Edit your response" link so you can edit your responses if/when you buy a game already on the list or a new game that releases in the future.


Last week's thread.​


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Summer Jam VII [ Saturday ] [ 11AM EDT | 8AM PDT ]
TEKKEN Global Championships US Qualifier [ Saturday ] [ 4PM EDT | 1PM PDT ]
  • San Diego FGC, SDTekken and Madcatz partner with Namco Bandai Games to host a US qualifier for the Global Tekken Championships, featuring TTT2U.
  • This event continues through Sunday.
  • More information is available here.
Lanhammer 2013 [ Saturday ] [ 5PM EDT | 2PM PDT ]
SFM Tournament [Saturday] [ 9PM CDT | 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT]
  • AE tournament in Monterrey, Mexico featuring top players from Mexico and the surrounding area participating in the tournament and exhibitions.


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Ultimate Fight Night [ 9PM EDT | 6PM PDT ]
  • Bi-weekly featuring around 5 exhibition matches in AE, with a main event usually featuring top players.
Marvel Mondays [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • Out of the ashes of The BOX Arena, comes the San Diego FGC's newest organized weekly for UMvC3.
UltraChenTV: First Attack & Lv3 Focus [ 11PM EDT | 8PM PDT ]
  • Weekly FGC show dedicated to match analysis, teaching, commentary, news, debates, and more! Hosted by UltraDavid and James Chen.


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Kachitagari TV (JP) [ 9PM JST | 8AM EDT | 5AM PDT ]
  • Bon-chan, Kazunoko and Fuudo's new show, focusing primarily on SSFIV AE ranked matches but is branching off into other games as well.
NYC VF [ 8PM EDT | 5PM PDT ]
  • NYC VF crew presents VF5:FS tournaments casuals out of The Next Level arcade in Brooklyn.
The Break Weekly [ 8PM EDT | 5PM PDT ]
  • New Jersey's largest weekly featuring UMvC3 and Injustice.
WakeUp SRK Live [ 9:30PM EDT | 6:30 PDT ]
  • Keits and skisonic host the weekly official podcast of Shoryuken.com. [ON HIATUS]
The On Blast Show [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • JamessMK & DarKNaTaS host a raw and uncut weekly talk show discussing events in the FGC with various FGC personalities.
UltraChenTV: The Tuesday Show [ 11PM EDT | 8PM PDT ]
  • Weekly FGC show dedicated to match analysis, teaching, commentary, news, debates, and more! Hosted by UltraDavid and James Chen.
When's Marvel Weekly [ 11PM EDT | 8PM PDT ]
  • FChamp and the FGTV Live crew host weekly Marvel sessions and hijinks. [ON HIATUS]
Cross Counter LIVE [ 12AM EDT (following day) | 9PM PDT ]
  • Cross Counter LIVE returns with the help of VxG. Cross Counter LIVE is a weekly talk show hosted by Gootecks and Mike Ross, who discuss hot button topics in the fighting game community.
The Show That Sucks [ 1AM EDT (following day) | 10PM PDT ]
  • iPlaywinner hosts a weekly talk show featuring alpha stream monsters Harrison and Honzo Gonzo.


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Game Spot Versus KoF Casuals (JP) [ 7PM JST | 6AM EDT | 3AM PDT ]
  • KoF 1998UM, KoF 2002UM and KoF XIII C action from Japan.
TOPANGA TV (JP) [ 9PM JST | 8AM EDT | 5AM PDT ]
  • Description needed.
Next Level Battle Circuit [ 8PM EDT | 4PM PDT ]
  • NYC's biggest weekly at The Next Level Arcade in Brooklyn featuring SSFIV AE, UMvC3 and TTT2. If the Teamsp00ky link is not working, it is likely on the backup stream on Arturo's channel.
Melee It On Me [ 9PM EDT | 6PM PDT ]
  • A bi-weekly Smash podcast discussing recent events, news and issues in the Smash community, hosted by Scar, Prog, Cactuar and Sheridan.
Wednesday Night Fights [ 12AM EDT (following day) | 9PM PDT ]


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Valley Stream Monsters Thursday Night Casuals [ 8PM EDT | 5PM PDT ]
  • Kombat Network presents a weekly offering stream monsters a chance to get on the streams themselves.
Stream Monster Online Tournament [ 8:30 EDT | 5:30 PDT ]
  • Weekly 16-player UMvC3 online tournament run by FGTV and sponsored by eightarc.
FNC The Arena [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • UMvC3 weekly out of Long Island, New York, which sometimes features other games.
Salty Cupcakes [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
The Fray [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • A weekly FGC talk show hosted by iPlaywinner, featuring a varying, ensemble cast of prominent members of the fighting game community.
ATP LIVE! [ 11PM EDT | 8PM PDT ]
  • Aris' new weekly show, discussing whatever he wants to! The format resembles old ATP podcasts.
The Runback Season 4 [ 12AM EDT (following day) | 9PM PDT ]


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KaoTV! (JP) [ 11PM JST | 10AM EDT | 7AM PDT ]
Fraud-Free Fridays [ 9PM EDT | 6PM PDT ]
  • Weekly tournament run at the FGTV house. Don't forget about the second FGTV stream as well which compliments the main one. [ON HIATUS]


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None at the moment.​


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GGPO VanBats [ 4PM EDT | 1PM PDT ]
  • Weekly GGPO Vampire Savior ranbats streamed by GAFer Rotanibor.
Super Smash Sundays [ 4PM EDT | 1PM PDT ]
  • Level|Up and Team OXY partner up to create a new weekly for the SoCal Melee community, featuring doubles and singles.



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On GAF we have various members that stream fighting games from time to time too:
There's also the Arcade Stick Thread, for help, recommendations and camaraderie with your stick wielding brethren. Additionally, if you want to really get involved, you may want to check out the various OTs for specific games:
GAF isn't the only FG community in town though. Here are a whole bunch of other FG communities across the internet that may be of interest:
  • 8WayRun - Soul Calibur franchise community
  • DOACentral - Dead or Alive franchise community
  • Dream Cancel - King of Fighters franchise community and resource, more US-centric
  • Dustloop - Forums/community for Arc System Works-developed games
  • Eventhubs - Frequently updated news blog, resource and forums for all things fighting games
  • FreeStepDodge - Dead or Alive franchise community
  • Homing Cancel - Arcana Heart community
  • iPlaywinner - Large fighting game news site and resource, and the home to Teamsp00ky and iPlaywinner
  • Jet Upper - UK-centric news source and community
  • Mayonaka Midnight - Persona 4 Arena community and resource
  • Melty Bread - Melty Blood community
  • Mizuumi - A resource for various "poverty" games
  • Orochinagi - King of Fighters franchise community and resource, more EU-centric
  • Reddit Fighters - Reddit's own fighting game community subreddit
  • Shoryuken - Mainly 2D, Capcom game centric hub, and probably one of, if not the largest FG community on the internet
  • Skullheart - fan Skullgirls community and resource made official
  • TekkenZaibatsu - Tekken franchise community
  • Test Your Might - Mortal Kombat and Injustice community and resource
  • UKFGC - UK-centric news source and community
  • Smash Boards - The largest Smash Bros. Community™
  • VFDC - Virtua Fighter franchise community site

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If you have any suggestions for the OP, please do not hesitate to post in this thread or PM me to let me know.
 
Great title enzo. On that note, that last game in the international was mad hype. Too bad there is no emotional skill moment from the commentators
 
jbug617 said:
Reading on twitter and people are talking about how much DOTA 2 is getting compared to FGC events.
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It definitely had some of that FGC-like hype in there.

I haven't watched many eSports events but I usually get pretty turned off by the production and presentation and general atmosphere, but I didn't feel that way with TI3. They did a pretty good job of being serious while not making everything feel overly sterile.

kirblar said:
We really need some sort of sit-down on like UltraChen about the economics of the FGC relative to other scenes (TCGs, MOBAs, etc.)
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Capcom isn't even remotely close to being in a position to support their games the way that a company like Valve is, leaving a fragmented community with no central authority to keep everyone in line to try and attract sponsors while idiot top players play joke grand finals matches and prominent community members get on stream and call people faggots. It's not that hard to understand.

Basically, more people should play NRS games so we can get that WB money.
 
TI3 was like EVO level hype this year, probably even more. The Grand Finals were godlike, big plays after big plays. Some players were worth literally a million dollars.
 
Lost Fragment said:
It definitely had some of that FGC-like hype in there.

I haven't watched many eSports events but I usually get pretty turned off by the production and presentation and general atmosphere, but I didn't feel that way with TI3. They did a pretty good job of being serious while not making everything feel overly sterile.
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Yep, agreed. I tuned in for the second half of the GF and intermittently throughout the weekend and it definitely didn't feel like MLG..

AhmazingArab said:
Wow 1.4 million for first place. How much money do you guys think the TO pocketed?
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every man has his hat price
 
phaonaut said:
First page is still for random stuff right?
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Wrath Unleashed is one of my favorite fighting games of all time.
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Man I remember that game

That game was awful.

I think I sold it to a Gamestop a good number of years ago for like $2, and I feel like that was them giving me too much for it.
 
Lost Fragment said:
Capcom isn't even remotely close to being in a position to support their games the way that a company like Valve is, leaving a fragmented community with no central authority to keep everyone in line to try and attract sponsors while idiot top players play joke grand finals matches and prominent community members get on stream and call people faggots. It's not that hard to understand.

Basically, more people should play NRS games so we can get that WB money.
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Ryan Hart spitting the REALEST RAP! Either that or MONEY. And money always wins.
 
why MOBA/SC are popular and have big pot bonuses:

1) Played on : PC
Streamed on: PC
Discussed on: PC

the game, stream service, and all benefits all related to the same machine.

2) Cost: free or cheap

SC might have an investement, but the MOBAs anyone can pick up whether in a 3rd world country or any place with a PC. Consoles, not so much since some consoles are too expensive and outright banned in some countries. People would prioritize a PC over a console due to school or work.

Why Fighting games, not so much:

1) Played on: Multiple consoles
Streamed on: Console or PC, but varies
Discussed on: PC mainly

Xbox only can't play with PS Only, Wii users (ha!) on their own. Very annoying to jump from console to PC to stream, or participate with others. Thus fanbase is fragmented.

2) Cost:

Titles are sometimes not available due to disc availability, price, or even region.

no need to lament broke FGC (i am making excuses! ;-;)
 
Dahbomb said:
TI3 was like EVO level hype this year, probably even more. The Grand Finals were godlike, big plays after big plays. Some players were worth literally a million dollars.
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Navi vs Orange game 3 was an Evo moment, straight up. Ridiculous comeback
 
mesmerMAN said:
why MOBA/SC are popular and have big pot bonuses:

1) Played on : PC
Streamed on: PC
Discussed on: PC

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the majority of esport events have 1 game per genre besides mobas? Is there some connection between esports supporting the strongest contender in the genre and letting the rest die?
 
mesmerMAN said:
why MOBA/SC are popular and have big pot bonuses:

1) Played on : PC
Streamed on: PC
Discussed on: PC

the game, stream service, and all benefits all related to the same machine.

2) Cost: free or cheap

SC might have an investement, but the MOBAs anyone can pick up whether in a 3rd world country or any place with a PC. Consoles, not so much since some consoles are too expensive and outright banned in some countries. People would prioritize a PC over a console due to school or work.

Why Fighting games, not so much:

1) Played on: Multiple consoles
Streamed on: Console or PC, but varies
Discussed on: PC mainly

Xbox only can't play with PS Only, Wii users (ha!) on their own. Very annoying to jump from console to PC to stream, or participate with others. Thus fanbase is fragmented.

2) Cost:

Titles are sometimes not available due to disc availability, price, or even region.

no need to lament broke FGC (i am making excuses! ;-;)
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also capcom isn't valve in terms of customer loyalty and available money to put back into the tournies.

If they had that valve customer loyalty then I could definitely see them putting more into the fgc
 
AMERIKAJIN @jiyunaJP
PRO-TIP: Dropping FG's and jumping to #ESPORTS in order to make money is a good way to fail at 2 things. Work on bettering your own scene.

RIP Jiyuna ;_;

Dying for our sins
 
irfaanator said:
also capcom isn't valve in terms of customer loyalty and available money to put back into the tournies.

If they had that valve customer loyalty then I could definitely see them putting more into the fgc
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They should probably work on their public image amirite?
 
irfaanator said:
also capcom isn't valve in terms of customer loyalty and available money to put back into the tournies.

If they had that valve customer loyalty then I could definitely see them putting more into the fgc
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To be fair, most of that prize pool was funded by the community.

Their fanbase is willing to give so much more
 
Fuck it, going to start a petition for Valve to buy Capcom, so they can then do Capcom All-Stars. 80 character roster, all free, and instead of hats, you buy alternate costumes, taunts, voice packs and colors. Modes will consist of VS, SF and CvS styles of character selection styles.

Then, Valve will buy EVO from the Cannons and Gaben will take Mr. Wizard's place as the fat dude that runs shit behind the scenes.

Valve will do the one thing they're good at (buy studios and make games/communities using their ideas) and the FGC gets saved by eSports.

FUCK COLLUSIONS, HATS ALL THE WAY.
 
Chavelo said:
Fuck it, going to start a petition for Valve to buy Capcom, so they can then do Capcom All-Stars. 80 character roster, all free, and instead of hats, you buy alternate costumes, taunts, voice packs and colors. Modes will consist of VS, SF and CvS styles of character selection styles.

Then, Valve will buy EVO from the Cannons and Gaben will take Mr. Wizard's place as the fat dude that runs shit behind the scenes.

Valve will do the one thing they're good at (buy studios and make games/communities using their ideas) and the FGC gets saved by eSports.

FUCK COLLUSIONS, HATS ALL THE WAY.
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But I like the Cannons and Mr. Wizard ;_;
 
Just popped open DOTA 2 for the first time in 2 years.....

....and I'm not seeing any of the P2Win stuff that's in LoL? Am I missing something? I'm only seeing P2Customize.
 
Slamtastic said:
So what you're saying is a free to play PC exclusive fighting game is what we need?
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Don't worry about it, neogaf only mentions the game, they don't actually play it. I already asked.
Kappa

Though I have heard that most keys are basically all bought out. Hopefully that is a sign that there is a lot of interest in it over in China. I really like it, hardest part is trying to find people to play with. I just hop on the #xdzw irc (not a lot of peopel on it honestly) or check my friendlist and hope someone has time to play.
 
irfaanator said:
also capcom isn't valve in terms of customer loyalty and available money to put back into the tournies.

If they had that valve customer loyalty then I could definitely see them putting more into the fgc
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Yep. Valve/Blizzard loyalty borders on cultish. Special cases, difficult to compare.

Somehow though, Riot has built up something respectable (that happens when you revitalize a genre) while the FGC's only chance is Capcom. A company that even the players in the FGC are uneasy with because of decisions across this gen. And yet they are the only ones who can really do anything about it.

I think platforms has a lot to do with it, but because of the controls required and the focus on IRL competition instead of predominately online competition, PC isn't the saving grace people would like it to be either that would allow the same sort of growth. Netcode just isn't as good and likely never will be.

Therein lies the FGC, walled off on some sides and where open, those that can do anything about it aren't. Enjoy 5 more years of SF4.
 
Having the games on PC, having the developers care about the game and its community, f2p, I can go on, but fightings games will never reach those levels at the moment. I mean shit capcom seems like its on its last leg funding their own game.
 
mesmerMAN said:
why MOBA/SC are popular and have big pot bonuses:

1) Played on : PC
Streamed on: PC
Discussed on: PC

the game, stream service, and all benefits all related to the same machine.

2) Cost: free or cheap

SC might have an investement, but the MOBAs anyone can pick up whether in a 3rd world country or any place with a PC. Consoles, not so much since some consoles are too expensive and outright banned in some countries. People would prioritize a PC over a console due to school or work.

Why Fighting games, not so much:
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Nah. They just need more hype.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RReCKG1cfqc
 
Guys, we should create and Kickstart a new fighting game IP called Highway Brawler, it can be PC and F2P and we can revitalize the FGC and get tons of money to magically surge in!
 
kirblar said:
Just popped open DOTA 2 for the first time in 2 years.....

....and I'm not seeing any of the P2Win stuff that's in LoL? Am I missing something? I'm only seeing P2Customize.
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Because there isn't any Pay 2 Win stuff in DOTA 2. All the game play mechanics are completely unlocked from the start (all the heroes etc).
Netcode just isn't as good and likely never will be.
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GGPO says otherwise.
 
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