Diablohead
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Remove the Kinect and sell me a core box for £299 and you have me.
No No No!!
If the kinect is not bundled it will not be as well supported and IMO just be a repeat of last gen.
If its about price/Value MS can give fee game download...
Please MS, don't split the Xbox One/Kinect userbase by pandering to people that want to strip the console of any unique or interesting features for developers to play with.
This was likely always going to be the case, it always seemed weird to me that everyone just assumed kinect was a requirement, it just made no sense. Oh well, that's the internet for you.
Kinect isn't a gimmick with the way they are using it on Xbox One.
Kinect is really the only way that multitasking and many apps are feasible on a console. You can't type with your controller, and you don't want to have to stop playing your games.
Also there are many little features Kinect offers that are truly valuable... like auto signing in, switching profiles when you swap controllers, switching the split-screen location depending on where you're sitting, Skype for every console, etc.
Plus it acts like a IR blaster to control your living room devices...
Don Mattrick leaves and everything turns around, maybe we know the source of their problems now.
It's either like the Wii U Game Pad in that they want to ensure a baseline of what to expect with each console, or it's like the mandatory online patch: they can't actually work this out WITHOUT a patch at this point, and so have to bite the bullet, burn through launch stock, THEN sell a system without the Kinect.Yet still bundled with every Xbox One
Kinect is what differentiated itself from the PS4. Now there really is no differences except one is much weaker and costs more, while the other is much more powerful and costs less.
Who the hell would pay for the former.
Because of the complaints. Don't throw everybody into some console war category.
I've wanted to love the Xbone, but Microsoft has been the one making that all but impossible.
Don Mattrick leaves and everything turns around, maybe we know the source of their problems now.
Just double checking, I don't have to have the Kinect plugged in at all and can sign into XBL ok?
Lol at people thinking Kinect is the reason of the $100 over Ps4.
The majority of the masses care only about the console, except that the success of the Kinect carries much more weight to us. The sensor costs almost as much as the console to make.
I think that's about MS pulling Kinect from SKUs. Not about unplugging it.
Hmm I'm not so sure. Kinect being required and Kinect being bundled sound like two pretty different issues.Pretty sure he was referring to Kinect being bundled.
Funny, I've been typing with my controller for years. I'd bet real money I'm faster at it than anyone would be moving their hands to get an imprecise cursor to move.
Please MS, don't split the Xbox One/Kinect userbase by pandering to people that want to strip the console of any unique or interesting features for developers to play with.
I think that's about MS pulling Kinect from SKUs. Not about unplugging it.
Hmm I'm not so sure. Kinect being required and Kinect being bundled sound like two pretty different issues.
Confirm that you can navigate the interface with a controller & you have my attention microsoft.
Through the internal microphone embedded in the Xbox one?
It isn't just for games. You wouldn't use it to take advantage of the dashboard functionality? What if it is implemented slightly into your favorite game and you use it?
Well, a confirmed Microsoft engineer seems to disagree.
http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1i71s5/i_am_an_xbox_one_dev_ask_me_almost_anything/cb1ls3d
Good, so don't bundle it then.
They aren't. The userbase aren't split. The Xbox One/Kinect userbase is still 1:1, just now users don't HAVE to have Kinect always connected. Developers still have the 1:1 userbase to work with. If Developers (or Microsoft) make having the Kinect connected desirable and wanted, gamers will have it connected. For example, I'm giving Kinect a try before I decide to box it or keep it on. If I enjoy the voice navigation and controlling the user interface with Kinect, I will keep my Kinect connected. If I don't enjoy it, I'm boxing it until a game I'm interested in utilizes Kinect in a must have way. If Halo 5, for example, allows me to control the game with my voice (Aka, Matchmaking Team Slayer, vote Valhalla! Loudout 2! Reload!) I will use my Kinect for Halo 5.
Also, think about this, one of the best Xbox One features, Game DVR, will most likely be only useable with Kinect. You have to say XBOX, RECORD, to record, if you can't do that with a controller, I'm, and I'm sure anyone else excited for this feature, will have Kinect plugged in.
This decision isn't bad.
This is indicative of two things to me:
1. They missed the mark big time with the initial announcement.
2. They are really afraid of getting their asses handed to them this generation.
Either way, this is a win for all. Release a version with no Kinect bundled and I'll preorder.
This was a non-issue for me, but it is good change for those who didn't want KINECT always connected.
As I said, in don't want to wave my arms around like a shithead to control my TV or games. Version 1.0 or 2.0 doesn't matter one fucking bit.
So put your straw man away and focus on what I actually said.
He later clarified in a more recent post on the subreddit that he meant R&D costs, not manufacturing costs.
So why am I being charged $100 for a piece of shit gimmick again?
I dont want them to say the "console will work" I wasnt expecting it to spontaneously combust upon removal of kinect
I want them to say "You can unplug kinect and still play your games/watch your films etc"