Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Is reading comprehension such a difficult thing these days?
The point is why not just release it switzerland than, seeing that language is not the problem?
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Xbox One release EU delay explained - there are no manufacturing problems, insists MS
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The point is why not just release it switzerland than, seeing that language is not the problem?
Hm ok. I just read on some site how there were real PS4 units. Have to look it up again I guess.
thats an example for "solve the problem just like this. there is none"
poland & co wont get their own language this easy. though they can buy one and switch to english.
Exactly. No we've come full circle and the message is: "We have some seroius manufacturing problems, that is why we only launch in so few countries..."
Annnnnnd we have a winner!
It's just bullshit, If it was truly localization they would have added switzerland to tier 1.
FeiRR
Banned
This didn't stop them from selling 360s without the official XBL support for 5 years this gen. They advertised 'online play' on the box even though it was a lie.
I don't see a problem with that if you are in one of the 13 countries where the console will launch. The hardware will be fine, and software-wise we will see a patchathon on all consoles. This has become a tradition.
But it's not just the straight out language it's the dialect too.
Take Belgium for example , a tiny country that is roughly split into 3 language speaking areas, but each area is speaking its own unique dialect of each language. That's a tricky thing with a human to deal with let alone a machhine.
The same thing will be a problem in the Uk where the 30+ accents and dialects will cause voice recognition a problem. You wait, there will be people complaining kinect doesn't understand them.
These problems aren't exclusive to Microsoft, this is the list of currently supported languages for Apple's Siri
United States (English, Spanish)
United Kingdom (English)
Australia (English)
France (French)
Germany (German)
Japan (Japanese)
Canada (English, Canadian French)
China (Mandarin)
Hong Kong (Cantonese)
Italy (Italian)
Korea (Korean)
Mexico (Spanish)
Spain (Spanish)
Switzerland (French, German, Italian)
Taiwan (Mandarin)
As you can see, the list of supported European countries is missing many of the same countries that MS isn't launching in
MS isn't going to say manufacturing problems even if that was the case. Not sure why anyone thinks otherwise.
I don't think it's really a big deal other then they said earlier that it was coming to 21 countries @ launch. That sucks for those that preordered (which would be zero based off of NeoGAF advanced metric analyst team). Did Sony give free game(s?) to everyone when they delayed the EU launch of the ps3
I don't think it's really a big deal other then they said earlier that it was coming to 21 countries @ launch. That sucks for those that preordered (which would be zero based off of NeoGAF advanced metric analyst team). Did Sony give free game(s?) to everyone when they delayed the EU launch of the ps3
Spider_Jerusalem
Member
Maybe they've been shown to the press during BCD presentations...
It's the whole Kinect thing though, they don't want to launch the xbox into countries where Kinect is almost totally useless, that doesn't make sense. Especially when their message is that it's entirely integral to the experience.
Nightengale
Member
I'd love to see their reason for Tier-3 Asia Pacific countries once XB1 is released in late 2014. (assumption)
Based on MS's track record in expanding their services/support/etc around the countries here, I have very little faith that they will actually have Kinect services localised to many of the core languages used around this region, much less the hundreds of dialect.
Heck, if it wasn't for Nokia's adoption of the WP platform, I don't think MS would had opened up the WP marketplace here even by today.
Based on MS's track record in expanding their services/support/etc around the countries here, I have very little faith that they will actually have Kinect services localised to many of the core languages used around this region, much less the hundreds of dialect.
Heck, if it wasn't for Nokia's adoption of the WP platform, I don't think MS would had opened up the WP marketplace here even by today.
Read the rest of my posts maybe it would be clearer.
demosthenes
Member
It's right after the sentence where he talks about the volume issue though, seems to be connected.
its not like they'd build 20 million consoles in advance. production issues or not.
they build as many as they think that will be sold.
pre orders let them see how many they ll build in the 2nd step.
now you ve built 4 million in advance and have to sell them. which market would you prefer? the most important ones or those that never cared much about you.
it is worse to lose a possible customer in your market to a competitor than not to sell one in a market where you ve never succeeded.
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of course it sucks when the demand is higher, than you got in stock. but the opposite is worse. if you just made 1 million more than the market demands, its already a hundred of million bucks in consoles on your shelf.
which friends? Sony? they had multiple retail units there, up and running.
I don't think it's so much about the text language, but more about the voice recognition, which makes up a big part of using the Xbox One OS.
dragonbane
Member
Too bad. I liked Penello. But that is just bullshit again. Again, why you can't release in Switzerland then? They speak German just fine.
What is this? That doesn't even make sense.
Diddy Kong
Banned
#TeamCBOAT
captainraincoat
Banned
Bullllllllllshit
they simply disable certain functions like they did with Kinect 1 and it not being able to listen to an aussie accent
I am not sure if they ever got around to fixing it as my kinect got packed away
BumblebeeCody
Member
Further proof we don't need Kinect.
Mugatu
Member
Just about to say the same thing.
Another full of crap MS exec - funny how they only talk to friendly outlets now who are guaranteed not to ask any follow-up questions (IGN and OXM).
True, but I think they didnt even match their own forecast so they have to cut it down to those few countries to deliver something. Its not like the X1 caught fire or has a demand like PS4... the pre orders are pretty mediocre so it comes down to the manufacturing chain.
test_account
XP-39C²
Does this mean that every european country where the Xbox One got delayed will have native language voice support for Kinect when it launches? Otherwise, i dont quite understand what the delay is about.
ricardo_sousa11
Member
If thats true, then I want Portguese language (Pt-Pt) on the Portuguese Xbone, not Brazillian (Pt-Br).
Ms is so full of bs...
Ms is so full of bs...
thelurkinghorror
Member
Sony has only a couple of mokup and Ps4 will be released in october, so I firmly don't believe Microsoft showed a working unit.
David Ricardo
Member
I played forza 5 at gamescom. The controller was plugged into the xbox one, but the cables coming from the back of the console went into a big white box that was connected to the tv through a pipe. To this moment I dont know wether I played forza on final xbox one hardware or a dev kit.
RedNumberFive
Banned
Yup. I certainly trust his words more than this guy.
binarymelon
Member
If this is true than there should be a wealth of units for the territories that are launching this year.
They're in for a shitstorm if it doesn't.
They didn't have time to add support for "Schwitzerdütsch"
lol
"Grüezi wohl Xbox"
...
"Uf Wiederluege Xbox"
tehe
BruiserBear
Banned
So a feature that a large percentage of customers will never bother using is what's holding up the console. Got it.
I have an iPhone 5 and I can't even be bothered to use Siri, and I've heard many other iPhone 5 users say the same thing.
samurai1226
Member
PR Nonsense.
I remember that the german voice commands werent implemented in the 360 as kinect launched. But instead of let the customers use the english voice commands (e.g. by changing your language to english on the console) they blocked all english voice commands if your account isnt a xbl-us/uk account... it took about a year until the voice commands for the german dashboard were implemented -.-
As long as kinect 2 does not think the sound of the game you're playing are voice commands as kinect 1 does, i will unplug it nevertheless. In Anniversary kinect always brighten up the game screen and starts throwing grenades by the own sound of the game. Even worse, in SC:Blacklist the Kinect always forces Sam to say something that the enemies will be attracted -.-
I remember that the german voice commands werent implemented in the 360 as kinect launched. But instead of let the customers use the english voice commands (e.g. by changing your language to english on the console) they blocked all english voice commands if your account isnt a xbl-us/uk account... it took about a year until the voice commands for the german dashboard were implemented -.-
As long as kinect 2 does not think the sound of the game you're playing are voice commands as kinect 1 does, i will unplug it nevertheless. In Anniversary kinect always brighten up the game screen and starts throwing grenades by the own sound of the game. Even worse, in SC:Blacklist the Kinect always forces Sam to say something that the enemies will be attracted -.-
zomgbbqftw
Banned
So from zero to zero?
The guy is a corporate tool and nothing more. He is the Amirm (see HD DVD) of this console war, sent by MS to spin on forums and parrot the company line.
Seems like bullshit. Different countries have different laws for the content available, different licensing and distribution deals and so fourth. Doesn't seem like a legit service like live can offer content from one region in another without restriction.
maabus1999
Member
Damn. Did he kill your dog and steal your girlfriend in the same day? Why the hate for the guy?
He has been pretty straight forward and has written very lengthy posts on this forum which is an uphill battle for him already. I think most people appreciate him being here.
Mugatu
Member
Would be nice to see.
Personally, I would more likely believe that the localisation problems they're having have to do with making Kinect's always on stuff legal in other countries. I know you can turn it off but a software switch might not be enough under some laws and I assume it comes turned on by default.
Valkyr Junkie
Member
Wow, that takes me back.
famousmortimer
Banned
If the Kinect 1 works with other languages... what happened between then and now?
Q. Why the delay?
A. We have to localize kenict voice to different regions
Q. No manufactureing problems?
A. No.
Q. Thanks, we appreciate you taking the time but I'll just choose to believe what I want and spread XBone manufacturing yield problem seed all over the internets.
PS4Life URNOTE #Cernyisgod
A. We have to localize kenict voice to different regions
Q. No manufactureing problems?
A. No.
Q. Thanks, we appreciate you taking the time but I'll just choose to believe what I want and spread XBone manufacturing yield problem seed all over the internets.
PS4Life URNOTE #Cernyisgod
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Just like most people on AVS appreciated Amirm feeding them bullshit day after day during the HD format war. Enthusiast groups like to be courted and MS management know this, so they send out their spokespeople to enthusiast forums to engage with them over and above what other companies do (as you mention, long posts rather than the usual one word answers we normally get from insiders or company reps).
It's something they did during the HD DVD vs Blu-ray format war, and now they are using the same tactics for the 8th console war, see this guy on GAF, that "confirmed developer" on /r/gaming and pretty much everyone on Bish's list.
His posts come across as straighforward, sure, but they are just rehashed company lines spoken more forthrightly without the sugar coating that we see in official PR.
The one thing I will give him is that so far he hasn't gone down to the Amirm levels and openly disparaged or denigrated the competitor or competing products, so that's at least something. Otherwise, to me, his words are poison mixed with enough sugar so people drink up.