GhostTrick
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You know the worst part ? It might sell decently...
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EA really went above and beyond with FIFA on the Vita this year
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NinjamicWZ
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I would really like to buy a decent sports game on Vita someday, ffs. I can go for a few games once in awhile.
fabricated backlash
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I'm sorry. Me and my lack of tact have done it again.
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Deleted member 125677
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3DS gets the same treatment btw. It sucks balls for sports fans.
It should be a £10 upgrade.
It should be a £10 upgrade.
Its pure bullshit what EA does. Same goes for the console version. FIFA 14 is indeed FIFA 12 reskinned, its a legacy from FIFA 12. Its a shame that PES wont come to Vita but PSP...
Football games this year suck so much... PES14 was perfect in the demo but Konami tweaked the fretail version into a awkward mess. And EA is calling a bumb in resolution for next gen system a new engine... I'm done with football games this year.
Football games this year suck so much... PES14 was perfect in the demo but Konami tweaked the fretail version into a awkward mess. And EA is calling a bumb in resolution for next gen system a new engine... I'm done with football games this year.
famousmortimer
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How many had screenshots of similar parts of the game taken by the OP? GTFO of here with your thread whining.
Velcro Fly
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Is the core game itself any good? I've seen physical copies of 13 on sale for $20 or less. I'm not huge into soccer like I used to be but FIFA games have always been fun enough. I don't know that I'd care that rosters aren't up to date.
Cha
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Took me a while to figure out what I'm supposed to be looking at here. That block of info needs to be larger, if not on the front of the box in my opinion.
Prince Vultan
Banned
Wait, updated kits AND rosters?
I'll buy five!
I'll buy five!
famousmortimer
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The core game is very good. I made a post about it somewhere in this thread but I'm on a phone right now so finding it and linking it is too much work.
famousmortimer
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I didn't spend $40 on it, I gamefly'd it because there isn't dick for releases for a couple weeks. Which i mentioned in like the third post. But I can't blame you for not reading it since you are drowning in a sea of FIFA vita threads. It seems like there are atleast a few people left who are seeing this for the first time. You should let the mods know how to do their job though, they love that.
Doczu
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What's the big deal with rosters? I mean, come on guys, not only are you already playing a digital sport simulation game (which, in my opinion should be played outside with a ball and a couple of lads) but you really need actual rosters? Really? Buy Fifa 13 and play it till they announce some new game which offers more than cosmetic changes.
AusRoachman
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I would love to see the credits screen
Little Johnny : Svn checkout manager
Little Johnny : Svn checkout manager
the androgyne
Member
It's absurd but in a lot of cases not too far removed from what actually happens even with sports games that do receive actual gameplay updates.
There must be some economies i'm missing in this judgement, but it sure seems like publishers and fans alike would be better off if they released roster packs yearly (and had a means to advertise this at retail), for a few years, and then hit with a substantial update every couple of years.
Part of it must be because of the used games issue - everyone i know who buys sports games trades in their previous versions to negate the new cost. But then again, those old versions are notorious for having the lowest trade in value precisely because of that.
There must be some economies i'm missing in this judgement, but it sure seems like publishers and fans alike would be better off if they released roster packs yearly (and had a means to advertise this at retail), for a few years, and then hit with a substantial update every couple of years.
Part of it must be because of the used games issue - everyone i know who buys sports games trades in their previous versions to negate the new cost. But then again, those old versions are notorious for having the lowest trade in value precisely because of that.
ringwaldhaze
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I don't know about the Vita version specifically, but you should be able to go into options -> squad settings -> transfers and switch players around. If I remember right, your "score" from manager mode won't be recognised and and you can't play competitive online modes with them.
It can be time consuming, but you could just make the switches you actually care about. As a kid, I use to sit with a list from Wikipedia making all the changes since we couldn't afford to buy it every year.
I should still do this.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Considering the 3DS is more powerful than the PSP (and about as powerful as the Wii), I'd guess the next Nintendo handheld will also be more powerful than the PSV and about the level of the Wii U - which would actually be rather nice. PS Vita's graphics are really amazing if the console is used properly and I have a feeling the hardware is not being really pushed by anyone but Sony (Uncharted, Killzone).
I'm wondering, for those legacy versions, they will have to do new player models, won't they? They could probably get away with reusing the old models for players who already played last year (though over the years that would be strange), for new players, they will have to use new models though, don't they? Can those models keep up with the old ones quality wise?
Moreover, as someone with three versions of Rayman Legends, I'm surprised someone would buy a roster update for a game he already has for full price. Isn't this the same as if I were to buy another copy of Rayman Legends, because it has some new costumes for Rayman (but is identical to one of the versions I already have otherwise)?
Rizsparky
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Exactly, or a £15 purchase from the eshop. Greedy ass publishers, and people still go to lengths to defend their precious FIFA...
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Ok, the analogy was probably a bit weak, is it comprabale to buying Doki Doki Panic (the game the western Super Mario Bros. 2 was made from by exchanging the models) and then later buying Super Mario Bros. 2 (western version) for full price, because you are a Mario-fan? Or is there a gameplay relevance to the rosters of the clubs (changes in balancing?)?
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
Maybe they thought this 13 is as good as it can gets, so no improvement was needed
It's disgusting that they even charge for roster updates.
This is why Valve will always have my business and respect. They gave out huge free game-changing updates to Team Fortress 2 for years, when they could have instead re-released it a half dozen times.
The crappy "roster updates" EA does should be handed out for free. Hell, many of the "engine improvements" year to year are so minimal that they should be patched in as well instead of charging full price every year. Get more people interested in your game and retain long time customers and build some loyalty. Same shit goes to Capcom, what they did with MvC and its re-releases was horrible. I'll never understand how people are okay with buying the same game over and over again like that.
This is why Valve will always have my business and respect. They gave out huge free game-changing updates to Team Fortress 2 for years, when they could have instead re-released it a half dozen times.
The crappy "roster updates" EA does should be handed out for free. Hell, many of the "engine improvements" year to year are so minimal that they should be patched in as well instead of charging full price every year. Get more people interested in your game and retain long time customers and build some loyalty. Same shit goes to Capcom, what they did with MvC and its re-releases was horrible. I'll never understand how people are okay with buying the same game over and over again like that.
Darko
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Maybe they thought this 13 is as good as it can gets, so no improvement was needed
theve been reskinning it for years (the vita version at least), this year they just gave up and admitted it this time.
ScepticMatt
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Well, they are completely honest about it, and they are free to charge whatever they want.
As long as people buy it every year, why wouldn't they take some free money?
As long as people buy it every year, why wouldn't they take some free money?
Bluemercury
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EA challenge everything indeed...
RibbedHero
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Hyperbole much?
RibbedHero
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No. 360, PS3 and PC all have a new game, just the same engine as the last few years.
Ah, so its like:
PS2/3DS/Vita/Wii: Literal copypaste
PS3/360/PC: Same engine some changes
XB1/PS4: New engine lots of changes
Why didn't they put the new engine on PC it can't be because of power, lol
Not the slightest, re-releasing games every year with minimal changes, trying to get paid DLC for just about everything etc. They are very much trying to scam money from people, and EA is most definitely the company doing it more than anyone else.
The PC really isn't a priority for them. They even took their sweet time to get the PC versions running on the current-gen engine.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
You know how much they're charging for it on the UK store? £44.99. I'm not shitting you. Hopefully that puts you $40 whining in perspective.
No. PS4 version looks like current-gen version with more bells & whistles graphically.
RibbedHero
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PS4 and XBO versions are the same as the current gen ones, just with some fancy effects such as 3D crowds. Gamekeepers is virtually identical (minor things like three people going for the same ball, nothing much besides that).
havent they done this on 3ds for years? and thank you famous mortimer for delving into these waters, as i refuse
i love that it still has a 3.5 star rating. sheep.
watch your tongue heathen, thats the architect of the rebellion youre talking to
thread whining, back seat modding, not reading the op, hat trick!
Remember that there will be new owners (and old) buying it that haven't played the last versions. In isolation, it is a decent handheld football game. You can't expect people to take a stand against business practices that they don't even know exist.
It's the unspoken truth of humanity that you crave subjugation
true, i hadnt considered the game might be 3.5 star game in a vaccum, but when i couple this slight, with the fact that ive preferred Konami soccer for years, i find am lacking sympathy for the sheep
Succinct Verbosity
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At least they're honest about it. I mean they're honest about it because Trading Standards would be on their backs, but still...
im sure they had to be, what dev would want their name attached to fraud? as we know now, ea's been doing this awhile and it's easier to come right out and say it, than pretend the game is smth it's not..
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
It's the unspoken truth of humanity that you crave subjugation
true, i hadnt considered the game might be 3.5 star game in a vaccum, but when i couple this slight, with the fact that ive preferred Konami soccer for years, i find am lacking sympathy for the sheep
Lol you prefer Pro Evo. By the way Pro Evo doesn't even get a Vita release at all. They're not exactly any better on the Vita front.
fluffydelusions
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No, ea said it is because the people who play FIFA on PC don't have very good spec computers. I'm betting that is mostly bs and ea are just lazy tbh.
It takes more work to maintain a separate PC port than just sharing the same code base.
If EA didn't think it would sell decently they would've Wii U'd the Vita version.
im sure konami could have found a shovel somewhere in their offices to scoop some crap on the vita,
i think the fact they didnt make it, is a sign among other things, that they couldnt allocate resources,
Ea said who needs resources when you have all these new kits?!
excellent question, is there a fifa 12 thats basically the same?