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[Mory Dunz]

How come WWHD didn't chart anywhere except for the UK? (From what I'm seeing)

Was it released yet in those other countries?

 

[theprodigy]

Not just Tretton, it's been said by at least some publishers that digital on Vita accounted for a significant proportion of overall sales. Off the top of my head I can recall during Ubisoft's conference call earlier in the year they were saying AC3 Liberation saw high digital sales in addition to the physical sales. Think the figure given there was something like 20% of sales... maybe... been a while. It's not exactly 60%, but it's still a big number when you consider Liberation on Vita sold north of 600k.

Think it's more than fair to say Vita digital traffic is heavy imo. Unless there's some evidence to the contrary I have yet to see...

Awakening pulled about 1/3 of its sales digitally in the US, and AC did around 20%
that doesn't mean we extrapolate that to EVERY game doing around that amount

 

[sörine]

It's 60% of all software, but the trick is that the figure includes digital-only indie ports, quite possibly PSX games, Minis and maybe even PS+ downloads.

That makes sense then. Nintendo also used to trump huge 3DS download figures, with the catch being they included free games and apps like Zelda Four Swords Anniversary, Pokédex 3D or Swapnote.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

How come WWHD didn't chart anywhere except for the UK? (From what I'm seeing)

Was it released yet in those other countries?

Released two weeks early digitally in America, for what it's worth.

 

[Eoin]

How's the Vita's digital pricing compared to retail in the Uk? Is is extortionate like 360 & ps3 or on par?

 

[SmokyDave]

How's the Vita's digital pricing compared to retail in the Uk? Is is extortionate like 360 & ps3 or on par?

It's not bad. On par with high street RRP, though not necessarily deals or online. Older games seem to drop fairly quickly.

It's reasonable enough that I'm 100% digital.

 

[Bruno MB]

No german chart for week 39? Bruno MB?

Thanks for reminding me to check if last week's German chart was up.

Germany:
Week 39, 2013 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (NE) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
02 (NE) 360 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
03 (01) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
04 (02) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
05 (NE) PC FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
06 (05) PS3 DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
07 (NE) WII FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
08 (03) PS3 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2014 (KONAMI)
09 (14) PS3 THE LAST OF US (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
10 (08) 3DS ANIMAL CROSSING: NEW LEAF (NINTENDO)
11 (07) PC TOTAL WAR: ROME II (SEGA / KOCH MEDIA)
12 (06) PS3 KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5 REMIX (SQUARE ENIX / KOCH MEDIA)
13 (09) 360 DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
14 (10) PC GRAND THEFT AUTO IV (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
15 (22) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO: EPISODES FROM LIBERTY CITY (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
16 (NE) 3DS FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
17 (13) 360 MINECRAFT: XBOX 360 EDITION (AK TRONIC)
18 (26) PS3 FAR CRY 3 - LIMITED EDITION (UBISOFT)
19 (NE) PS2 FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
20 (17) 3DS LUIGI'S MANSION 2 (NINTENDO)
21 (33) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED III (UBISOFT)
22 (NE) PSV FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
23 (04) PC PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2014 (KONAMI)
24 (18) PC THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
25 (36) PC STARCRAFT II: HEART OF THE SWARM (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
26 (25) PC CRYSIS 3 (ELECTRONIC ARTS
27 (23) PS3 ONE PIECE: PIRATE WARRIOS 2 (NAMCO BANDAI GAMES)
28 (16) PS3 FIFA 13 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
29 (12) PC EURO TRUCK SIMULATOR 2: GOING EAST (RONDOMEDIA)
30 (43) PS3 CRYSIS 3 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
31 (41) PS3 TOMB RAIDER (SQUARE ENIX / KOCH MEDIA)
32 (15) PS3 FARMING SIMULATOR 2013 (ASTRAGON)
33 (NE) 3DS INAZUMA ELEVEN (NINTENDO)
34 (34) 3DS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. 2 (NINTENDO)
35 (51) PC CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
36 (52) PS3 TOM CLANCY'S SPLINTER CELL: BLACKLIST (UBISOFT)
37 (30) PC GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDREAS (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
38 (27) PC BATTLEFIELD 3 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
39 (40) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 3 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
40 (19) PC ARMA III (MORPHICON / FLASHPOINT)
41 (21) PS3 NHL 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
42 (28) 3DS MARIO & LUIGI: DREAM TEAM BROS. (NINTENDO)
43 (31) PC THE SIMS 3: ISLAND PARADISE (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
44 (24) PC FARMING SIMULATOR 2013 (ASTRAGON)
45 (NE) PC RISE OF VENICE (KALYPSO / FLASHPOINT)
46 (29) PC DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
47 (47) PS3 SAINTS ROW IV - COLLECTOR'S EDITION (KOCH MEDIA)
48 (39) 3DS MARIO KART 7 (NINTENDO)
49 (68) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
50 (35) 3DS LEGO CITY UNDERCOVER: THE CHASE BEGINS (NINTENDO)

Top 50

PS3 - 19
PC - 16
3DS - 8
360 - 4
WII - 1
PS2 - 1
PSV - 1

 

[sörine]

Awakening pulled about 1/3 of its sales digitally in the US, and AC did around 20%
that doesn't mean we extrapolate that to EVERY game doing around that amount

Dragon Quest X also doubled it's retail sales on the eShop. There's always exceptional cases.

Also in regards to AC3L I believe the hardware bundles were a download code, so that alone would push digital above the norm.

 

[Starwolf_UK]

And Animal Crossing is doing 101%
Anyone has an explanation ?

Sometimes multiplatform games add up to <>100% (suggesting the %s the guardian give are rounded). This makes me wonder if digital hardware bundles do count (multiple SKUs) and the figure has been combined with some rounding up happening leading to a sum of 101.

Thanks for reminding me to check if last week's German chart was up. *chart*

It pains me to see Fifa 14 3DS or Vita selling anything, let alone beating Inazuma 3...then again the bright spark at NOE who decided to face it against Fifa...

 

[Eoin]

It's not bad. On par with high street RRP, though not necessarily deals or online. Older games seem to drop fairly quickly.

It's reasonable enough that I'm 100% digital.

Isn't being on par with RRP the problem with digital pricing though? It's never followed here. Wouldn't know about high street, my local Game, HMV and Blockbuster have all shut down in the last couple of years, but comparing it to online prices the gap is huge.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Awakening pulled about 1/3 of its sales digitally in the US, and AC did around 20%
that doesn't mean we extrapolate that to EVERY game doing around that amount

Except when developers actually say that the Vita version sold more than the PS3 version.

Dragon Quest X also doubled it's retail sales on the eShop. There's always exceptional cases.

Also in regards to AC3L I believe the hardware bundles were a download code, so that alone would push digital above the norm.

You can detract as much as you want, the fact still stands that developers themselves said that the Vita is selling well digitally.

FYI AC3L had physical copy with the bundle not digital

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44630931&postcount=44

 

[Mpl90]

Thanks for reminding me to check if last week's German chart was up.

Germany:
Week 39, 2013 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (NE) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
02 (NE) 360 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
03 (01) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
04 (02) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
05 (NE) PC FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
06 (05) PS3 DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
07 (NE) WII FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
08 (03) PS3 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2014 (KONAMI)
09 (14) PS3 THE LAST OF US (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
10 (08) 3DS ANIMAL CROSSING: NEW LEAF (NINTENDO)
11 (07) PC TOTAL WAR: ROME II (SEGA / KOCH MEDIA)
12 (06) PS3 KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5 REMIX (SQUARE ENIX / KOCH MEDIA)
13 (09) 360 DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
14 (10) PC GRAND THEFT AUTO IV (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
15 (22) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO: EPISODES FROM LIBERTY CITY (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
16 (NE) 3DS FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
17 (13) 360 MINECRAFT: XBOX 360 EDITION (AK TRONIC)
18 (26) PS3 FAR CRY 3 - LIMITED EDITION (UBISOFT)
19 (NE) PS2 FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
20 (17) 3DS LUIGI'S MANSION 2 (NINTENDO)
21 (33) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED III (UBISOFT)
22 (NE) PSV FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
23 (04) PC PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2014 (KONAMI)
24 (18) PC THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
25 (36) PC STARCRAFT II: HEART OF THE SWARM (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
26 (25) PC CRYSIS 3 (ELECTRONIC ARTS
27 (23) PS3 ONE PIECE: PIRATE WARRIOS 2 (NAMCO BANDAI GAMES)
28 (16) PS3 FIFA 13 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
29 (12) PC EURO TRUCK SIMULATOR 2: GOING EAST (RONDOMEDIA)
30 (43) PS3 CRYSIS 3 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
31 (41) PS3 TOMB RAIDER (SQUARE ENIX / KOCH MEDIA)
32 (15) PS3 FARMING SIMULATOR 2013 (ASTRAGON)
33 (NE) 3DS INAZUMA ELEVEN (NINTENDO)
34 (34) 3DS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. 2 (NINTENDO)
35 (51) PC CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
36 (52) PS3 TOM CLANCY'S SPLINTER CELL: BLACKLIST (UBISOFT)
37 (30) PC GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDREAS (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
38 (27) PC BATTLEFIELD 3 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
39 (40) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 3 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
40 (19) PC ARMA III (MORPHICON / FLASHPOINT)
41 (21) PS3 NHL 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
42 (28) 3DS MARIO & LUIGI: DREAM TEAM BROS. (NINTENDO)
43 (31) PC THE SIMS 3: ISLAND PARADISE (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
44 (24) PC FARMING SIMULATOR 2013 (ASTRAGON)
45 (NE) PC RISE OF VENICE (KALYPSO / FLASHPOINT)
46 (29) PC DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
47 (47) PS3 SAINTS ROW IV - COLLECTOR'S EDITION (KOCH MEDIA)
48 (39) 3DS MARIO KART 7 (NINTENDO)
49 (68) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
50 (35) 3DS LEGO CITY UNDERCOVER: THE CHASE BEGINS (NINTENDO)

Top 50

PS3 - 19
PC - 16
3DS - 8
360 - 4
WII - 1
PS2 - 1
PSV - 1

Fuck you German 3DS owners for buying FIFA 14. Even in top 20, even more than on Vita (the opposite of what happens in UK). Why people bought the Legacy Edition of any console, that's not right

P.S. I'm fairly sure the biggest countries for IE are France, Italy and Spain, not Germany.

 

[Menaged]

FIFA 14's PS2 version in the German charts just amaze me, especialy since it's above the Vita version. Simply crazy.

 

[Mpl90]

Last year, in Germany, FIFA for PS2 was the best selling SKU after Wii.

FIFA 13, debut week, the "other" versions

[PS2] FIFA 13 - 13th
[PSP] FIFA 13 - 18th
[PSV] FIFA 13 - 26th
[3DS] FIFA 13 - 30th

FIFA 14, debut week, the "other" versions

[3DS] FIFA 14 - 16th
[PS2] FIFA 14 - 19th
[PSV] FIFA 14 - 22nd
[PSP] FIFA 14 - out of top 50

...3DS SKU debuted much better this year?!? For shame.

 

[UNCMark]

Is it funnier or sadder that there's more Wii titles in the top 40 than Wii U+3DS combined?

 

[Hobo Zombie]

But I was told that Wind Waker HD was an utter flop and would be outsold by W101 and Pikmin 3.

 

[theprodigy]

Except when developers actually say that the Vita version sold more than the PS3 version.

and this matters in the context of digital sales because...?
and even then, "doing well" relative to expectations doesn't mean it doesn't suck

 

[daxgame]

16 (NE) 3DS FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
19 (NE) PS2 FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
22 (NE) PSV FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
33 (NE) 3DS INAZUMA ELEVEN (NINTENDO)

why

edit: wait four 360 games? I say damn

 

[Bruno MB]

One Piece must be very succesful in Germany. Manganime titles are usually very front-loaded since they only cater to a very specific niche audience.

02 (NE) PS3 ONE PIECE: PIRATE WARRIORS 2 (NAMCO BANDAI GAMES)
08 (02) PS3 ONE PIECE: PIRATE WARRIORS 2 (NAMCO BANDAI GAMES)
17 (08) PS3 ONE PIECE: PIRATE WARRIORS 2 (NAMCO BANDAI GAMES)
23 (17) PS3 ONE PIECE: PIRATE WARRIORS 2 (NAMCO BANDAI GAMES)
27 (23) PS3 ONE PIECE: PIRATE WARRIORS 2 (NAMCO BANDAI GAMES)

Regarding Inazuma Eleven 3 I suppose they have combined both Lightning Bolt and Bomb Blast versions. They have it listed as just "Inazuma Eleven"

 

[m.i.s.]

All the important Nintendo 3DS titles charted for lots and lots of weeks (and before M.I.S. enters and spouts"Bu-bu-bu the "So many games promotion did that! Without that, 3DSh isn't wortha of selling gamesh!!1111!!" for the 5th time...that promotion ended back in June, so how would you explain seeing lots of 3DS titles in top 40 for July and a good part of August? Good odds? Heatwave? Dragon coming back to life? How?). And, in the meanwhile, titles like Project X Zone and Harvest Moon obtained to chart way higher than anyone would have believed in their debut week. It's true that they left the chart the week after their debut, but it's how niche titles perform usually in UK (Graces F had the same trajectory PxZ had, just to say), and Harvest Moon is sold out as hell. Unfortunately, there haven't been many important 3DS titles saleswise recently, while HD consoles had lots of them. I'm pretty sure titles like PxZ and HM wouldn't have charted at all in the past, and you wouldn't have seen the huge amount of 3DS titles in top 40 per week for so long last year. So, 3DS environment saw a huge improvement compared to the past. Yeah, despite the crappiest version ever of FIFA not selling. Not that 3DS has no problems anymore in selling software (UK stays the country where it's difficultier for it to sell games and here it's even more evident than elsewhere the fact is has problems with Western core games - I'm talking about everything, not just FIFA obviously), but still things improved greatily since last year.

I'm sorry but what is the point of this rambling post? That 3DS is doing well? That it's software is doing well? That evergreen Nintendo software that previously charted consistently on previous Nintendo systems is no longer doing so on 3DS this close to Xmas? I mean, one -- just one -- 3DS title in the entire UK Top 40 [the headline chart in arguably the most influential European market] and you don't think that this a matter of notable comment?

As a previous poster said -- and as jcm has consistently pointed out with comparative hardware sales figures -- the 3DS is a matter of genuine curiosity. That it is the lowest selling Nintendo handheld system to date. If you don't like questioning of sales patterns or anomalies that paint certain systems in a negative light, well, perhaps you shouldn't be entering sales age threads.

 

[sörine]

Except when developers actually say that the Vita version sold more than the PS3 version.


You can detract as much as you want, the fact still stands that developers themselves said that the Vita is selling well digitally.

FYI AC3L had physical copy with the bundle not digital

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44630931&postcount=44

Outside Ubisoft with AC3L, which Vita developers have cited exceptional digital versus retail sales for their games? There seems to be this general sentiment that digital is uniquely more lucrative on Vita versus other consoles but I'd like to see something to substantiate that.

 

[AzaK]

WW did well. Very expensive for a HD remake and seems like it did fine.

Pro Evo soon to be out the top 40.

There is nothing else to play on it really. It's a greet game of course but if Wii U had a healthy title list releasing regularly it would be doing so well.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Outside Ubisoft with AC3L, which Vita developers have cited exceptional digital versus retail sales for their games? There seems to be this general sentiment that digital is uniquely more lucrative on Vita versus other consoles but I'd like to see something to substantiate that.

COD had significant digital sales and plenty of Japanese developers post sales of the titles including digital.

 

[sörine]

COD had significant digital sales and plenty of Japanese developers post sales of the titles including digital.

Okay, so where can I read about that? All I can find regarding positive digital sales for Vita are a handfull of informal comments from indies and I can find that for 3DS and even Wii U to a comparable degree. The only sales I can from Japanese publishers for shipped plus digital (Ragnorak Odyssey, Senran Kagura) don't really imply digital ratios outside the norm except a couple f2p Sega games.

 

[UNCMark]

But I was told that Wind Waker HD was an utter flop and would be outsold by W101 and Pikmin 3.

So you know the sales numbers for Pikmin 3 and WWHD? Please share.

 

[Mory Dunz]

I was actually surprised the Wii FIFA 14 was number 7 did better than the PS2 one to be honest. I thought FIFA was nothing on Wii. I know it was only number 7, but again, I thought it nothing.

So...FIFA 15 and 16 Wii version confirmed? lol


Also, No WW in Germany's 40 chart too must mean it hasn't been released in those countries yet. Has it only come out in the UK I'm guessing?

 

[Dinda]

Also, No WW in Germany's 40 chart too must mean it hasn't been released in those countries yet. Has it only come out in the UK I'm guessing?

Those German Charts are Week 39 not 40. Wind Waker was released last week in Germany and the rest of Europe just like in the UK.

 

[liger05]

Fuck you German 3DS owners for buying FIFA 14. Even in top 20, even more than on Vita (the opposite of what happens in UK). Why people bought the Legacy Edition of any console, that's not right

P.S. I'm fairly sure the biggest countries for IE are France, Italy and Spain, not Germany.

Smokey Dave wont like that. 3DS owners in Germany buying a 3rd party game in Fifa and more people buying a 3DS version than the Vita goes against a particular narrative.

 

[theprodigy]

I'm sorry but what is the point of this rambling post? That 3DS is doing well? That it's software is doing well? That evergreen Nintendo software that previously charted consistently on previous Nintendo systems is no longer doing so on 3DS this close to Xmas? I mean, one -- just one -- 3DS title in the entire UK Top 40 [the headline chart in arguably the most influential European market] and you don't think that this a matter of notable comment?

As a previous poster said -- and as jcm has consistently pointed out with comparative hardware sales figures -- the 3DS is a matter of genuine curiosity. That it is the lowest selling Nintendo handheld system to date. If you don't like questioning of sales patterns or anomalies that paint certain systems in a negative light, well, perhaps you shouldn't be entering sales age threads.

oh man
sales noob comes in and tries to call a sales regular biased
like clockwork

 

[velvet_nitemare]

oh man
sales noob comes in and tries to call a sales regular biased
like clockwork

You've been on this forum for 6 weeks. Calling anyone a sales noob is a bit rich.

 

[SmokyDave]

Smokey Dave wont like that. 3DS owners in Germany buying a 3rd party game in Fifa and more people buying a 3DS version than the Vita goes against a particular narrative.

Yeah, the narrative being bandied about last week that 3DS owners were above buying a certain football game

9 of the top 10 3DS games are first party. My 'narrative' remains unscathed.

 

[UNCMark]

Yeah, the narrative being bandied about last week that 3DS owners were above buying a certain football game

9 of the top 10 3DS games are first party. My 'narrative' remains unscathed.

Not just 3DS owners. Last week in the Wii U thread Nintendo gamers said Nintendo fans would never buy Fifa as well. It all sounds very limiting.

 

[liger05]

Yeah, the narrative being bandied about last week that 3DS owners were above buying a certain football game

9 of the top 10 3DS games are first party. My 'narrative' remains unscathed.

Not at all. It was ridiculous to use Fifa 14 legacy edition as some sort of example to how 3DS owners wont buy 3rd party games. By all means look at 3rd party software sales and criticise but dont use some BS title like Fifa 14 legacy edition to do so.

Your narrative may remain unscathed but I guess the German audience on this occasion proved you wrong.

 

[Moonstone]

Last year, in Germany, FIFA for PS2 was the best selling SKU after Wii.

PC should have sold better. It reached 100k this January, the wii version did it last year, Fifa for PS2 is sub 100k.

 

[SmokyDave]

oh man
sales noob comes in and tries to call a sales regular biased
like clockwork

Where did you get the idea that M.I.S was a noob?

Read the first line of the post he quoted. Dude was called out directly.

Not at all. It was ridiculous to use Fifa 14 legacy edition as some sort of example to how 3DS owners wont buy 3rd party games. By all means look at 3rd party software sales and criticise but dont use some BS title like Fifa 14 legacy edition to do so.

Your narrative may remain unscathed but I guess the German audience on this occasion proved you wrong.

Eh, did they? How do the install bases look for the two platforms?

 

[liger05]

Eh, did they? How do the install bases look for the two platforms?

Rayman sold more on the Wii U than PS3. Does that mean anything in the larger scale of things? Of course not, it just means that particular game (and it seems sonic does as well) seems to appeal more to a nintendo system owner than a PS3 owner.

Horses for courses and all that.

 

[Moonstone]

Germany: Biu Awards September

1 Million Multi-platform
GTA V
Call Of Duty: Black Ops II

GTA V did more in 1 week than Blops in 1 Year (on one platfrom more, pc is between 100-200k).
And it was sold out at many places, those who still had it, sold it for 69,99&#8364;

500k Single-platform
GTA V (PS3)

200k Single-platform
GTA V (360)
Fifa 14 (PS3)

100k Single-platform
Crysis 3 (PS3)

August is still missing, but Biu updated their site, there was probably no award.

Charts: GTA V is back on top.

 

[Bruno MB]

Denmark:
Week 40, 2013 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (01) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
02 (02) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
03 (05) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
04 (04) 360 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
05 (03) PS3 FIFA 14 ULTIMATE ED (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
06 (NE) WII JUST DANCE 2014 (UBISOFT)
07 (09) PSN PLAYSTATION NETWORK CARD 200 KR (SCEE)
08 (06) 360 FIFA 14 ULTIMATE ED (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
09 (07) PS3 DISNEY INFINITY STARTER PACK (DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS)
10 (12) PC WORLD OF WARCRAFT GAME CARD (60-DAY PRE PAID GAMECARD) (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
11 (10) PS3 DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
12 (08) WII DISNEY INFINITY STARTER PACK (DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS)
13 (NE) PS3 F1 2013 (NAMCO BANDAI GAMES)
14 (13) WII FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
15 (17) PC SIMS 3: ISLAND PARADISE THE (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
16 (__) 360 MINECRAFT (MICROSOFT)
17 (15) PSN PLAYSTATION NETWORK CARD 400 KR (SCEE)
18 (19) PC SIMS 3: MOVIE STUFF THE (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
19 (__) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO IV (TAKE 2)
20 (__) PS3 FARMING SIMULATOR 2013 (FOCUS)

Sweden
Week 40, 2013 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (02) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
02 (03) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
03 (01) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
04 (04) 360 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
05 (NE) WIU LEGEND OF ZELDA THE WIND WAKER HD (NINTENDO)
06 (09) PSN PLAYSTATION NETWORK VOUCHER 200 SEK (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
07 (NE) WIU LEGEND OF ZELDA THE WIND WAKER HD LIMITED ED (NINTENDO)
08 (07) PS3 NHL 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
09 (08) 360 NHL 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
10 (05) PS3 FIFA 14 ULTIMATE ED (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
11 (10) 360 MINECRAFT (MICROSOFT)
12 (12) PC WORLD OF WARCRAFT GAME CARD (60-DAY PRE PAID GAMECARD) (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
13 (16) 360 LIVE GOLD CARD 3 MÅNADER (MICROSOFT)
14 (11) PSN PLAYSTATION NETWORK VOUCHER 400 SEK (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
15 (NE) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
16 (06) 360 FIFA 14 ULTIMATE ED (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
17 (NE) WII JUST DANCE 2014 (UBISOFT)
18 (15) PC WORLD OF WARCRAFT 60 DAYS GAME CARD (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
19 (13) PS3 DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
20 (__) 360 DRIVER: SAN FRANCISCO - CLASSICS (UBISOFT)

Norway:
Week 40, 2013 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (01) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
02 (02) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
03 (05) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
04 (04) 360 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
05 (07) PSN PLAYSTATION NETWORK VOUCHER 200 NOK (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
06 (03) PS3 FIFA 14 ULTIMATE ED (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
07 (NE) WIU LEGEND OF ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER HD (NINTENDO)
08 (__) PSN PLAYSTATION NETWORK VOUCHER 400 SEK (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
09 (NE) WIU LEGEND OF ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER HD LIMITED ED (NINTENDO)
10 (11) PS3 DISNEY INFINITY STARTER PACK (DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS)
11 (08) PSN PSN LIVECARD 200KR (SCEE)
12 (06) 360 FIFA 14 ULTIMATE ED (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
13 (09) PSN PSN 400NOK (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
14 (__) 360 ASSASSIN'S CREED: REVELATIONS - CLASSICS (UBISOFT)
15 (NE) PS3 FARMING SIMULATOR 2013 (FOCUS)
16 (14) PSN PSN 200NOK (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
17 (12) WII DISNEY INFINITY STARTER PACK (DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS)
18 (NE) 360 MINECRAFT (MICROSOFT)
19 (16) WII FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
20 (15) PS3 NHL 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)

Finland:
Week 40, 2013 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (01) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
02 (02) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
03 (03) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
04 (04) PSN PLAYSTATION NETWORK CARD 20 EUR (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
05 (05) PS3 NHL 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
06 (07) 360 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
07 (08) 360 NHL 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
08 (10) PSN PLAYSTATION NETWORK CARD 50 EUR (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
09 (NE) PS3 F1 2013 (NAMCO BANDAI GAMES)
10 (__) PS3 NHL 13 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
11 (12) PS3 LAST OF US THE (SCEE)
12 (NE) WIU LEGEND OF ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER HD LIMITED ED (NINTENDO)
13 (11) 360 MINECRAFT (MICROSOFT)
14 (NE) WIU LEGEND OF ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER HD (NINTENDO)
15 (06) PS3 FIFA 14 ULTIMATE ED (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
16 (18) PC WORLD OF WARCRAFT PRE-PAID GAME CARD 60 DAYS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
17 (NE) 360 XBOX 360 LIVE 3 MONTHS GOLD (MICROSOFT)
18 (__) 360 XBOX 360 LIVE 3 MONTHS GOLD (MICROSOFT)
19 (14) PS3 DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
20 (20) PS3 KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5 REMIX (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)

Spain:
September 2013 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (NE) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
02 (NE) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
03 (NE) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
04 (NE) PS3 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2014 (KONAMI)
05 (NE) 360 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
06 (NE) PS3 DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
07 (NE) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V - EDICIÓN ESPECIAL (TAKE 2)
08 (NE) PS3 KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5 REMIX (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
09 (02) WII DISNEY INFINITY STARTERPACK (DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS)
10 (NE) PS3 KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5 REMIX LIMITED EDITION (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)

 

[Frankfurter]

I'm sorry but what is the point of this rambling post? That 3DS is doing well? That it's software is doing well? That evergreen Nintendo software that previously charted consistently on previous Nintendo systems is no longer doing so on 3DS this close to Xmas? I mean, one -- just one -- 3DS title in the entire UK Top 40 [the headline chart in arguably the most influential European market] and you don't think that this a matter of notable comment?

As a previous poster said -- and as jcm has consistently pointed out with comparative hardware sales figures -- the 3DS is a matter of genuine curiosity. That it is the lowest selling Nintendo handheld system to date. If you don't like questioning of sales patterns or anomalies that paint certain systems in a negative light, well, perhaps you shouldn't be entering sales age threads.

I'm a little confused what you are trying to say there. If it's really that 3DS is the lowest selling Nintendo handheld system to date in absolute terms, then sure you are right, but that's not a surprise considering that 3DS has been on the market for just a tad more than 2.5 years by now. PS4 surely will be the lowest selling Sony console to date come December. For obvious reasons nobody is gonna make that point though.

If you are saying that it's the lowest selling Nintendo handheld system in a "per month" (/ year etc.) way than I'm pretty that's wrong, considering that Gameboy (incl. Gameboy Color) sold sth. like 120 million units, but had 12 years until its "real" successor arrived, i.e. ~10 million per year compared to sth. like 15 million per year for the 3DS.

 

[m.i.s.]

I'm a little confused what you are trying to say there. If it's really that 3DS is the lowest selling Nintendo handheld system to date in absolute terms, then sure you are right, but that's not a surprise considering that 3DS has been on the market for just a tad more than 2.5 years by now. PS4 surely will be the lowest selling Sony console to date come December. For obvious reasons nobody is gonna make that point though.

If you are saying that it's the lowest selling Nintendo handheld system in a "per month" (/ year etc.) way than I'm pretty that's wrong, considering that Gameboy (incl. Gameboy Color) sold sth. like 120 million units, but had 12 years until its "real" successor arrived, i.e. ~10 million per year compared to sth. like 15 million per year for the 3DS.

No date adjusted, the 3DS is the lowest selling Nintendo handheld. I'm not too sure of the reliability of GB/C figures.

Source: Road

But it's also Nintendo's entire handheld eco-system. £40 MSRP games [typically discounted to £28 to £35 depending on the pedigree of the game] were always going to be a tough sell. For a handheld system, in it's second year, to have only one title charting in the UK Top 40 is a fairly abysmal showing. Particularly, considering how few units are required to scrape in to the Top 40.

Some more food for thought.

TTM after 9 quarters on sale:

3DS Hardware: 13.95
NDS Hardware: 21.18


3DS Software: 49.61*
NDS Software: 107.85**

TTM after 10 quarters on sale:

3DS Hardware: 13.49*
NDS Hardware: 23.56


3DS Software: 53.23*
NDS Software: 123.55**

* Software sales units and the number of new titles for Nintendo 3DS 
are those of Nintendo 3DS card software (packaged and downloadable versions).
** This does not include DSiWare

Source: jcm

 

[Frankfurter]

No date adjusted, the 3DS is the lowest selling Nintendo handheld. I'm not too sure of the reliability of GB/C figures.

Source: Road

But it's also Nintendo's entire handheld eco-system. £40 MSRP games [typically discounted to £28 to £35 depending on the pedigree of the game] were always going to be a tough sell. For a handheld system, in it's second year, to have only one title charting in the UK Top 40 is a fairly abysmal showing. Particularly, considering how few units are required to scrape in to the Top 40.

Some more food for thought.

TTM after 9 quarters on sale:

3DS Hardware: 13.95
NDS Hardware: 21.18


3DS Software: 49.61*
NDS Software: 107.85**

TTM after 10 quarters on sale:

3DS Hardware: 13.49*
NDS Hardware: 23.56


3DS Software: 53.23*
NDS Software: 123.55**

* Software sales units and the number of new titles for Nintendo 3DS 
are those of Nintendo 3DS card software (packaged and downloadable versions).
** This does not include DSiWare

Source: jcm

I don't have the sales figures at hand, but again: that's simply not true. Gameboy most likely sold way less launch aligned.

It's also worth noting that, going by the graph you posted, 3DS is just behind DS and GBA. TBH I would have expected the difference to be much bigger by now (and it's surely gonna get bigger).

But it's also Nintendo's entire handheld eco-system. £40 MSRP games [typically discounted to £28 to £35 depending on the pedigree of the game] were always going to be a tough sell. For a handheld system, in it's second year, to have only one title charting in the UK Top 40 is a fairly abysmal showing. Particularly, considering how few units are required to scrape in to the Top 40.

I think this simply isn't a fair point to make. You are picking one country (and one that, lately, didn't exactly tend to favor Nintendo) and you pick one single week in said country. 1 out of 40 is abysmal, no doubt. But that's not telling us anything at all - well, it's telling us that 3DS had bad sales in the top 40 in week 40 2013 in the UK.

Some more food for thought.

'Software and hardware sales'

I'm not gonna go out and claim that 3DS is doing great or anything, but there simply are a few things to consider when doing comparisons like these (including the ones against GBA):

a) GBA was a monster, basically from launch on. So "winning" a comparison against that handheld isn't an easy goal at all.

b) DS had its issues at launch, but did really take off after like ~1.5 years and it's sold over 150 million units LTD. So, who on earth expected 3DS to top that?

c) The market today is different than it was 5 or 10 years ago. I guess no one doubts that Nintendos handheld division was hurt by smartphones and tablets. The interesting question, imo, isn't whether or not Nintendo can "beat" the GBA and/or the DS, but rather if it's able to be a viable plattform after all is said and done and warrant a successor.
What would be much more worrisome for Nintendo than not selling as much as GBA or DS did is if the handheld market would continue to shrink. I do think that the US market is still shrinking (using 12 month TTMs), but worldwide it seems like it's pretty stable (on a significantle lower level though than 5 years ago!) and the US handheld market might soon (to be more precise, starting with this holiday season) be growing (atleast slightly) again.


In terms of software sales it should also be noted that 3DS software sales do only include those of sales that came from 3DS titles that are available at retail (it however includes both the retail and the downloadable version). Basically, any title that is eShop exclusive is not counted. It's difficult to tell how much these titles sell, but than again there are quite a few available on the eShop, so it sort of makes 3DS' software sales look worse compared to those of DS. It's also worth noting that Nintendo probably can sell less software titles per system compared to DS, but still have the same margin (per system sold) because a) a significant part of those lost software sales are from games like Brain Training (i.e. lower margin), b) games sold through the eShop (both eShop exclusives and retail games) most likely have a far bigger margin than those sold at retail.


Long story made short: 3DS isn't gonna rise to heaven, but 3DS isn't doomed either. Weak performance in a single week in one countries top 40, imo, doesn't mean shit in the grand scheme of things (especially considering that said performance is completely different in other countries - see Germany week 39).

 

[DrWong]

UK: Wii U hardware sales soar by 685% following Zelda HD launch

Wii U hardware sales rose by more than 685 per cent in the UK last week, Nintendo has told MCV.

The sudden sales spike appears to be due to the release of The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD, which launched last Friday, October 4, and debuted at no.4 in the UK All-Formats chart.

Need to be confirmed though.

 

[Lexxism]

685%? I wonder what's the weekly sales of it before the launch of WW HD

 

[Foshy]

68 and a half Wii Us sold this week, then?

 

[Principate]

68 and a half Wii Us sold this week, then?

Terrible math and old ass joke. Mostly the bad math though.

 

[Prince Vultan]

686 Wii U's sold?

I kid, but seems to me that even if they sold 1 Wii U console for every copy of Wind Waker they sold that still won't amount to a very impressive number.

It's a meaningless percentage without a solid number.

 

[Foshy]

Terrible math and old ass joke. Mostly the bad math though.

I was going off 10 Wii U's a week

"Increasing by 685%" would mean 78.5 Wii U's though, my bad.

 

[pieatorium]

686 Wii U's sold?

I kid, but seems to me that even if they sold 1 Wii U console for every copy of Wind Waker they sold that still won't amount to a very impressive number.

It's a meaningless percentage without a solid number.

considering no nsmbu in the previous weeks top 40 chart the number is probably pretty low

unless the basic pack has inexplicably become the more popular sku that week i guess

 

[feint_ruled]

You've been on this forum for 6 weeks. Calling anyone a sales noob is a bit rich.

He's actually referring to his OWN post. Meta!

 

[jvm]

Wii U software units just slightly below PSV software units at retail in September. Each accounted for 0.7% of the market, but the Wii U was apparently just below. More later, when I get time to juggle the numbers.

Edit: UK just to be sure. I know regulars in the PAL Charts threads will know that, but not everyone's a regular.