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Xbox One: Built for the future

CLEEK

Member
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That is a bunch of hoops?

More than the PS3, yes.

And as I stated, once you're on your library, it's much slower to scroll between titles. In the XMB, you can rapidly scroll the entire list. It's much slower / jerkier to do this on the 360.

I'd imagine that the Xbone will be significantly faster to navigate between pages and tiles, due to have RAM to spare. The annoying lag in the 360 UI is most certainly due to the limited system resources.
 

UNCMark

Banned
I closed the window after the 4th "in her face".

You made it further than me. What a moron. "We don't speak French, we're Americaiiiiin."

The main UI was boring as shizz. I hope there's more to it.

They can, do not know why you are trying to start an argument. They have Gaikai... Also they did it in the past with PS3 games. So yeah, they can do it.

Gaikai isn't Azure. They can't do what MS is doing with Azure with Gaikai.
 

QuartKat

Banned
Well that is good that you believe them, but many of us have seen what happens when companies do this. That is why a lot of people are skeptical. We have seen it crash and burn before. MS isn't above lying. For instance: they said no ads would be on the Xbox One main screen, and guess what? There are ads on the main screen.
If that is your "reason" because they said no ads and now there are?
Really?
  1. Can I introduce you to Jack Tretton?
  2. Remember Other OS?
  3. The removal of the cheap EE chip to boost sales
  4. Claiming Little Big Planet is over 40gb when its less than 2gb
  5. Waiting a week to tell YOU PSN has been breached
  6. Losing the "keys" to PSN last october and people acting like nothing happened

And the first thing that came to mind for you is dashboard ads?
I personally don't think that is reason enough for you to say the cloud is bunk, but you are welcome to your opinion I guess :)
 

Giggzy

Member
WHAT? Simple and clean is what you like? How in the world do you not like the XMB? it's whole point is to be simple and elegant... YOu have contradicted yourself in your argument.

Because I think the XMB is very bland and lifeless. Nothing about it is appealing to me. I never said the XMB wasn't simple either, so not sure how I contradicted myself. I was speaking strictly and only about the Xbox One UI. The layout and presentation is much more flattering to my taste. Like I said, opinions. They do vary.
 
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Not sarcasm at all. It's way more important than "a USB port in the wrong spot". It's about the complete package. Same reason I'm an iphone user instead of an android. There are plenty of phones on the android side that have better specs, but the simplicity and elegance of ios just works for me. That's how I feel here. I don't use my consoles strictly for gaming, so yes I would use the UI more frequently. It's all opinions though. What works for me won't for others

If UI was that important I wonder why you were leaning towards a ps4 when barely anything has been shown for it until very recently while MS has made it priority since it's reveal? I figure anyone whose preference towards ps4 would see the UI as more of an means to an end as opposed to being part of a core experience.
 
someone should photoshop that MS Paint "Welcome Batman" Kinect interface image into one of these Xbox One bootup pics, lol

(can't find it offhand, but you know the one!)
 
1080p, 60fps, with those graphics?
Yep. It definitely looks much better than your average next gen launch title.

So... if i play a game from the PS2/XBOX/GC era in its remastered form (1080p,60fps)... that makes it next gen?, stupid question i know, but it sounds like that's what you're implying, the latest video released for Forza looks bad, nothing in it seems un-doable in the current crop of consoles (baked lighting, terrible water, bad aliasing issues, scarce vegetation)... but i digress...
 

aronmayo2

Banned
WHAT? Simple and clean is what you like? How in the world do you not like the XMB? it's whole point is to be simple and elegant... YOu have contradicted yourself in your argument.

"Clean" in design terms usually refers to "no design flourish".

The Playstation 3 and 4 XMBs have plenty of design flourish or decoration: shadows under icons to replicate life-like lighting, 3D swoosh effects in the background to "look cool", sparkles/glitter effects to "look classy", transparency to replicate glass to seem "futuristic", gradients for no reason etc.. These are flourishes that do not improve functionality and do not enhance user experience in the slightest.

Therefore the design is NOT "clean" in anybody's language...it's full of ridiculous decoration that is not attractive in my opinion and is visually distracting.
 
Gaikai isn't Azure. They can't do what MS is doing with Azure with Gaikai.
Yeah it's worth mentioning that Gaikai is a streaming service Sony purchased to develop a platform for streaming PS3 games. Azure is currently a billion dollar business on its own, encompassing a range of cloud-based services.

Not that Sony can't or won't develop cloud-based services for their gaming platform, but MS already has big time cloud services today.
 

madmackem

Member
I think it looks pretty much like the current 360 dash, i kind of wanted something completely new but they are moving everything to metro like so i shouldnt of expected much change. As long as its snappy and fast im not all that fussed.
 
This is next gen quality trolling.

the ignore button has saved me many minutes of my life contemplating posting/responding to people on this site. You should definitely take advantage of it. Once the consoles are out and launched, many on my ignorelist will be taken off. :)
 
Yeah it's worth mentioning that Gaikai is a streaming service Sony purchased to develop a platform for streaming PS3 games. Azure is currently a billion dollar business on its own, encompassing a range of cloud-based services.

Not that Sony can't or won't develop cloud-based services for their gaming platform, but MS already has big time cloud services today.

Sony have a service agreement with Rackspace for their OpenStack servers, the same company that CERN and NASA use for cloud computing, it won't be as ingrained as Microsofts cloud but you can bet that Sony will have something very similar.
 
Because I think the XMB is very bland and lifeless. Nothing about it is appealing to me. I never said the XMB wasn't simple either, so not sure how I contradicted myself. I was speaking strictly and only about the Xbox One UI. The layout and presentation is much more flattering to my taste. Like I said, opinions. They do vary.

I'm completely agree with this. I like clean and concise layouts, infact my main complaint with the current Xbox 360 layout is that its become a little bit convoluted, however looking at these gifs, it's clear that the Xbox One won't suffer from that (of course can't say for sure until the controller is in my mits). The flip side of that is that clean and concise can lead to a lack of personality, now this is very much a personal preference, as you say, but I've always felt whilst navigating my PS3 that its really lacking in that department, and the PS4 UI from the videos looks even more like that, sterile might be the right word for it. From the little we've seen from the Xbox One, and the lots we've seen from Windows 8, I don't think that's going to be a concern at all, it's looks absolute gorgeous in my eyes, but once again, to use that key phrase, it's a personal preference, as I have no doubt in my mind that both the PS4 and X1 will have very performant, feature rich UI's.
 
Sony have a service agreement with Rackspace for their OpenStack servers, the same company that CERN and NASA use for cloud computing, it won't be as ingrained as Microsofts cloud but you can bet that Sony will have something very similar.

There is no way that Sony will be able to use a third party vendor to offer as good as deal or customisation as Microsoft can with Azure, simply because the service isn't theirs to run and rackspace will want a cut of the pie too. I also don't think Sony have the means or justification to set up and equally established and performant cloud platform as Azure anytime soon. So if Microsoft want to really push the advantages of Azure on the Xbox One, which they seemingly are, then they definitely have an advantage here.
 

geordiemp

Member
Is the User Interface really important to people here ?

All I want to know is how capable is the hardware and how good are the games to play and look at.

As long as the UI is clean and easy to use, does it matter ?

What percentage of your time do you spend using the interface to playing games or running apps ?

For me its like 0.05 % UI usage....
 

Al13n

Neo Member
Is the User Interface really important to people here ?

All I want to know is how capable is the hardware and how good are the games to play and look at.

As long as the UI is clean and easy to use, does it matter ?

What percentage of your time do you spend using the interface to playing games or running apps ?

For me its like 0.05 % UI usage....

It's a factor which I deem important to me. The XBOX UI and controller are one of the main reasons I'll get another XBOX next generation, together with the lineup. I don't expect we'll see much difference between the games anyway, even is the PS4 is 50% faster.
 
Is the User Interface really important to people here ?

All I want to know is how capable is the hardware and how good are the games to play and look at.

As long as the UI is clean and easy to use, does it matter ?

What percentage of your time do you spend using the interface to playing games or running apps ?

For me its like 0.05 % UI usage....

Here probably low. general public though, the spend a large percentage of time using apps and in the ui.
 

FortMajor

Banned
Is the User Interface really important to people here ?

All I want to know is how capable is the hardware and how good are the games to play and look at.

As long as the UI is clean and easy to use, does it matter ?

What percentage of your time do you spend using the interface to playing games or running apps ?

For me its like 0.05 % UI usage....

It is important to me. Unless you boot directly to a game everytime the UI should be important.

This UI looks clean and easy to use and looks like an improvement compared to just using the same dull life less UI. Coupled with how the UI interacts with the Kinect sensor is something unique.
 

Prine

Banned
Very very slick, MS have always been ahead of everyone else at delivering services and bundles of functionality. I heavily use my Xbox for its services, Xbox One ability to be the single input to all my devices is what has me super excited.

God damn i can imagine my Xbox switching on my 5.1 system, Samsung smart TV and everything else as soon as Kinect recognises me.

Damn i cant wait.

Is the User Interface really important to people here ?

All I want to know is how capable is the hardware and how good are the games to play and look at.

As long as the UI is clean and easy to use, does it matter ?

What percentage of your time do you spend using the interface to playing games or running apps ?

For me its like 0.05 % UI usage....

At least 40% of my time on 360 is non gaming related. So alot.
 
I am 100% not about use those gamerpics though. Ill make a cool one with my avatar since I actually like them. I cannot stand knowing somewhere out there someone has the same pic as me. I guess you could call me picky lol
 
Is the User Interface really important to people here ?

All I want to know is how capable is the hardware and how good are the games to play and look at.

As long as the UI is clean and easy to use, does it matter ?

What percentage of your time do you spend using the interface to playing games or running apps ?

For me its like 0.05 % UI usage....

Of course it is, we're going to be interacting with it for the next 8 years.
 

Billen

Banned
I was watching that boot up sequence and thought to myself 'Hmm, that seems familiar. Where have I seen those effects used that way before?'

Then it hit me - I've seen them in every sales pitch delivered in PowerPoint when the presenter thinks that to keep people's attention they need to use every single transition animation on every single element on every single slide.

This revolutionary UI is a .ppt file.

Also - cloud schmoud.



My god. It's true.

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Insert any animation of people clapping hands, Antonio Banderas or whatever you want. This is just too good, and it also happens to be correct. One of the "operating systems" running in Xbox One seems to be Microsoft Office.
 

Kydd BlaZe

Member
Loving those UI gifs. Looks much better than what I've seen of the PS4's UI thus far; Much more stylish and slick. PS4's UI looks very bland in comparison.
 

JaggedSac

Member
Insert any animation of people clapping hands, Antonio Banderas or whatever you want. This is just too good, and it also happens to be correct. One of the "operating systems" running in Xbox One seems to be Microsoft Office.

This post is too salty for my tastes.
 
Is the User Interface really important to people here ?

All I want to know is how capable is the hardware and how good are the games to play and look at.

As long as the UI is clean and easy to use, does it matter ?

What percentage of your time do you spend using the interface to playing games or running apps ?

For me its like 0.05 % UI usage....

Believe it or not people do spend a lot of time doing things outside of playing games on the consoles and even while playing games they bring up the interface to do other things as well.
 

Alx

Member
Is the User Interface really important to people here ?

You must have missed all the drama about Windows8 because they changed the navigation menus. ;)
The UI wasn't important when consoles were just meant to boot up a game and you only used the system menus to make room on your memory card, but things have changed. Now even in a pure gaming scenario, you'll browse the UI to manage your friend list and follow their activity, download demos, DLC or full games, watch videos of games to come, ...
And of course there all the non-gaming scenarios : web browser, video, music, social networks etc.
That makes the UI rather important, especially now that the console is adding multitasking.
 
Is the User Interface really important to people here ?

All I want to know is how capable is the hardware and how good are the games to play and look at.

As long as the UI is clean and easy to use, does it matter ?

What percentage of your time do you spend using the interface to playing games or running apps ?

For me its like 0.05 % UI usage....

I plan to use my next console for much more than gaming.

To be quite frank the actual gaming side isn't even what made me pre-order a next gen console. Forza 5 comes free with my pre-order and I'm not really wanting to spend any more money yet.

One of the things that frustrates me with 360 right now is that MS are clearly trying to do something with it, but obviously can't really fully realise it because the console has only been adapted to try to fit it in.

The app market for instance, is only a big handful of apps.

Currently having to exit a game to access your Xbox Music library.

Having apps that I use like Xbox Music/Sky TV/Netflix require me to exit my current app to look at/start/use any other app or even go back to the dashboard.

Having to switch between inputs on my TV when switching from PC gaming/web browsing to console.

All of the above are actually regularly frustrating to me (especially when my TV remote runs out of batteries and I CBA to change them. Unlit capacitive buttons on the TV + dark = Rage). I like the ideas of the implementations, but the half-assed ness of their real use functionality just grates.


To me, XB1 is what my 360 and its vision is supposed to be right now. Its almost like Windows 8 vs Windows 8.1 to me. Windows 8 is the first implementation of the vision and Windows 8.1 is a better realised version that actually turns the vision into something I can actually use in a more functional manner.


Outside of my personal use case, Microsoft's end goal is that the XB1s interface is never more than a single button press/command/gesture away regardless of what any user of the television is doing so I guess they need to make it look appealing as well as functional.
 
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