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Media Create Sales: Week 43, 2013 (Oct 21 - Oct 27)

B.O.O.M

Member
Did I actually see few Nintendo fans trash talking about 'sales' of all things of another console? LMAO

Anywho 3ds doing great as usual..vita good hold (wonder if it will go up next week with that gundam game/bundle coming), wiiu sales suck but expected since there's a bundle coming so next week numbers should be good..I'm guessing 40k+...
 

Mario007

Member
The weaker and bulkier system is a hit hardcore platform and fans are waiting for a proper FF remake. It would sell more than 1 million worldwide for sure.


You don't want FF on Champion?
I really hate the FF mobile revolution but saying saying that a 'proper FF remake' would be possible on the 3DS as opposed to modern smartphones is laughable to say the least. Especially when one considers the power differences between the two.
 

zroid

Banned
Did I actually see few Nintendo fans trash talking about 'sales' of all things of another console? LMAO

Anywho 3ds doing great as usual..vita good hold (wonder if it will go up next week with that gundam game/bundle coming), wiiu sales suck but expected since there's a bundle coming so next week numbers should be good..I'm guessing 40k+...
Welcome to Media Create threads. 20% sensible discussion. 40% Sony fans trolling Wii U. 40% Nintendo fans trolling Vita.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Good job on the 3DS and a surprisingly good hold for the Vita.

Just for actual comparison, what did the Vita revision come with a couple weeks back? Dangan Ronpa I see. Anything else worth noting?

I personally thought a Vita revision that's slightly better/worse for the same price and with new colors wasn't going to do anything. However, the Vita went from like 5-6k sales to 60k for that week. Since Pikmin 3 alone managed to get the Wii U over 22k, my hope is these pretty decent bundles do at least as well as Pikmin 3.

My prediction is 23k. Being that Wii Party U/Wii Fit U are the games coming out that week (and with the bundle), I could see some people at least think it's a good deal and pick it up. Is Nintendo advertising this bundle or Wii Party U at all in Japan?


I'll be pretty happy if the Wii U goes 30k+. If it's below 15k, I think the Wii U is pretty finished unless Mario 3D World & Taiko magically turn the ship around. Btw, did anyone notice that before the bundles were announced, the Wii U was going up a slight bit? Were there any releases to justify that? Was Wind Waker HD before or after the bundles were announced?
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Also no comments on Pokemon or Monster Hunter sales? Where are the graphs/charts comparing its sales to MH4 to MH3P and Pokemon X/Y to Black/White?
 

cafemomo

Member
maybe a pokemon remake can happen next year with x/y engine

Oh man if Ninendo/Square could do the following for 2014

>RSE Remake
>FFVI remake
>DQXI

then I will agree with the peeps who are saying that the 3DS is a GOAT handheld.

Til then, that title belongs to the GBA and Vita
 

boingball

Member
Nice numbers for the Vita, would be good if it can settle above 20k.

I wonder whether it is possible to rejuvenate the Wii U though, it is now consistently below the PSP. Well, the christmas season will tell. If it cannot sell in December then it is time for Nintendo to think about a successor (I think they could release a system in 2015 which has at least similar specs to the xbone, which might mean next gen ports are possible).
 

L~A

Member
Final Fantasy V is already on iOS/Android (w/ FFVI coming)...and it's a cheap, low budget effort compared to the remakes of III/IV. You're not going to get DS level FF remakes on that format anytime soon so what does it matter about hardware power anyway? But a proper FFV remake is also something not happening on 3DS either. That ship has long sailed.


Animal Crossing was honestly all that was needed though, as it launched at the perfect time and the hardware sales just soared. There's nothing on that level now leading into the holiday season BUT there's certainly quantity (and we have a wild card in P&D Z) which might have a similar level of effect but I'm not convinced. We'll see.

Band Bros DX did well iirc (450k?) so it'll be interesting to see how the new one does. Wonder if we'll ever get another Rhythm Tengoku as well.

Well, we only found out that Animal Crossing would be enough AFTER the holidays. Come to think of it, it was a pretty impressive feast, though I believe it would've done even better with another major title. Actually, that's the reason I believe the 3DS can do even better this year.

I don't remember sales data for BBDX, but a Rhythm Tengoku in 2014 is pretty much guaranteeed imo. I mean, the previous game was released in July 2011 iirc, so having one released in Summer 2014 would be cool (though it's true they might go with a Wii U game instead).

I wish it's on 3DS, personally.
 

Busaiku

Member
I would hope Nintendo doesn't annualize Pokemon.
I can definitely see the brand suffering as a whole like Super Mario.
 
I really hate the FF mobile revolution but saying saying that a 'proper FF remake' would be possible on the 3DS as opposed to modern smartphones is laughable to say the least. Especially when one considers the power differences between the two.
Who said that though? Not me.

Mobile is the platform for cheap lazy games, if they want to succeed on the 3DS, they have to put more effort and make a FFV remake look better than this:

fal5n21.jpg
 

Takao

Banned
I don't understand why SEGA does full on localizations for Sonic games in Japan. They cannot be making money on them.
 

Mario007

Member
Who said that though? Not me.

Mobile is the platform for cheap lazy games, if they want to succeed on the 3DS, they have to put more effort and make a FFV remake look better than this:

fal5n21.jpg
I thought you implied that, if not then sorry. To be fair at most SE will do a FF VI CC remake if they were do it on 3DS or Vita, do nothing major to be honest. According to SE mobile is the land for remakes. Having seen the numbers they sold that were in one of the MC threads before I strongly disagree but that's SE for you these days. Would would have thought Wada was the sensible one.
 

Takao

Banned
Uh, are you guys being sarcastic regarding the Pokemon milk, or are you are just ignoring the 15,000 different spinoffs?
 

duckroll

Member
I don't understand why SEGA does full on localizations for Sonic games in Japan. They cannot be making money on them.

Why not? If companies like XSEED and Atlus can make money off miserable sales numbers for games which they actually dub and localize in a market where those games are sold for 30 bucks, I'm sure Sega is making money off Sonic games in Japan which are localized and sold for 60 bucks. :p
 

Takao

Banned
Why not? If companies like XSEED and Atlus can make money off miserable sales numbers for games which they actually dub and localize in a market where those games are sold for 30 bucks, I'm sure Sega is making money off Sonic games in Japan which are localized and sold for 60 bucks. :p

yet sega does not localize phantasy star, yakuza, shining, or valkyria chronicles games

That's probably because Sonic is developed in Japanese so the only added cost would be the voice acting.
 
Oh right, well still getting so many pokemon mainline games in the past 4 years without anyone noticing is pretty big.

Yeah true, but if you look a little more closely HG/SS are remakes and then you have Black/White 2 which feel more like an alternative to a "third version" like Platinum, than a full new generation Pokemon.
 

Mario007

Member
Yeah true, but if you look a little more closely HG/SS are remakes and then you have Black/White 2 which feel more like an alternative to a "third version" like Platinum, than a full new generation Pokemon.
True that. I am by now means saying they are churning out new generations now faster and trying to replicated the AC or COD model. Just that there seems to be a new mainline pokemon game every year now and the sales haven't really taken a hit by it at all.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
True that. I am by now means saying they are churning out new generations now faster and trying to replicated the AC or COD model. Just that there seems to be a new mainline pokemon game every year now and the sales haven't really taken a hit by it at all.

Yeh, but I feel like having a game every year kills the franchise much faster than spacing them out. We'll see though...
 

Mario007

Member
Yeh, but I feel like having a game every year kills the franchise much faster than spacing them out. We'll see though...
Yeah I guss we will. I doubt they'll slow down anytime soon though. I can see Pokemon Z out next year, then remake of Gen3 and then Gen7 in the next 3 years and then Gen 7 third game.
 

Caliginous

Neo Member
Yeah I guss we will. I doubt they'll slow down anytime soon though. I can see Pokemon Z out next year, then remake of Gen3 and then Gen7 in the next 3 years and then Gen 7 third game.

I'd be fine with a few remakes as long as Gen 7 is a few years out. Do you think they'll still be a full platform behind similar to Black and White? Perhaps whatever they do after 3DS will have Gen 7.
 
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thepotatoman

Unconfirmed Member
I'll be pretty happy if the Wii U goes 30k+. If it's below 15k, I think the Wii U is pretty finished unless Mario 3D World & Taiko magically turn the ship around. Btw, did anyone notice that before the bundles were announced, the Wii U was going up a slight bit? Were there any releases to justify that? Was Wind Waker HD before or after the bundles were announced?

Well, let's look at the NA price drop numbers. Assuming Wii U continued selling the 7,750 weekly average until the Sept 20th price drop, and that the Wii U sold 95k in Sept, then the Wii U sold 73k over the course of 10 15 days after the price drop, or 51k 34k split into a 7 day average.

30k should be achievable, but I don't know how desirable the Japan bundles are compared to the $300 Wind Waker HD Deluxe pack.

Edit: forgot NPD doesn't end the figures at the end of the month, so fixed some math.
 

RalchAC

Member
Fuck no. I don't even own Persona 4: Golden.

I thought you were cool, man... i thought you were a cool Vitabro.

But you don't have P4 *sigh*... I don't now what to say... :(

Just kidding :p
__

What new releases does the Vita has next week. Gundam and Neptunia?
 
Wait a minute, where is Sonic Lost Worlds WiiU? Did it release a previous week?
The same place as pretty much every Sonic game since Secret Rings to not have "& Mario" in the title.
Rm88~ said:
So... at this point, is a scenario where XB1 eventually outsells WiiU in Japan not that farfetched?
Well, yeah, still pretty farfetched--Wii U is about where X360 was after 4 years.
WiiU
 
Anywho 3ds doing great as usual..vita good hold (wonder if it will go up next week with that gundam game/bundle coming), wiiu sales suck but expected since there's a bundle coming so next week numbers should be good..I'm guessing 40k+...

Gundam Breaker will do really well because there is Gunpla Build Fighter anime helping its promotion. My guess is 50k-60k next week and then we're counting down to Vita's holiday megaton aka God Eater 2 + Vita TV.
 

cafemomo

Member
What? No. It is the best ps+ out there. They give you over 120 free ps1 games, plus lots of free vita, ps3 and psp games.

I know. But most of them suck. I should of said JP+ didn't suit my taste.

But this month was bretty gud. Rainbow Six and DJMAX fo free
 

Busaiku

Member
Yeah true, but if you look a little more closely HG/SS are remakes and then you have Black/White 2 which feel more like an alternative to a "third version" like Platinum, than a full new generation Pokemon.

I think X/Y being 3D/on 3DS also helped it to keep interest.
However, continuing to put mainline games/big remakes/expanded versions out on an annual schedule could definitely hurt the series in the same way Level 5 does their stuff.
 

Tripon

Member
I think X/Y being 3D/on 3DS also helped it to keep interest.
However, continuing to put mainline games/big remakes/expanded versions out on an annual schedule could definitely hurt the series in the same way Level 5 does their stuff.

I think just about the only thing to break the '3rd game' cycle that Pokemon employs is if they move it to another platform, like Pokemon Z for Wii U.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
I'm sure GameFreak will slow down a lot with Pokemon spinoffs. No Pokemon Ranger this time and it will be a long time before we see another Pokemon Dungeon after the sales of the last. They will focus on third entries and remakes.
 
Why are you so hostile against my post?

It was a just an off-hand comment as to the discrepancy between the two. I made it because I was sure that it would go below 3K this week in Famitsu.

I know full well that Enterbrain's f-ism retail aggregate service deals with estimates. Hell, I even subscribe to one of their services every week. :p




Wait for Dengeki. ;-)

dat avatar

So... at this point, is a scenario where XB1 eventually outsells WiiU in Japan not that farfetched? Japan seems to think WiiU is part of the Xbox family or something :(

come on man, Wii U may be a bomba but it's not that bad
inb4 Xbox One becomes a smash hit in Japan
 
Who said that though? Not me.

Mobile is the platform for cheap lazy games, if they want to succeed on the 3DS, they have to put more effort and make a FFV remake look better than this:

fal5n21.jpg

While you do have a point, it is pretty well known that the SE efforts on mobiles have been supbar. I don't think FFV looks as bad as people say, but it could look a lot better. You could argue that they didn't really succeed in mobiles with their FFV "effort" either. Between 50 and 100K downloads on Google Play and ~91K on iOS.

Having seen the numbers they sold that were in one of the MC threads before I strongly disagree but that's SE for you these days. Would would have thought Wada was the sensible one.

I don't know how Aquamarine got those estimates/algorithms, but they seemed fairly feasible. I was also not impressed by any of those numbers, though SE obviously sees some potential there. Maybe they think if they can get 50-100K download for pretty much a ROM dump, they might as well do it? I am kind of hoping they will put some effort into their DQ and FFVI-VII ports, but most likely not.
 

Tripon

Member
While you do have a point, it is pretty well known that the SE efforts on mobiles have been supbar. I don't think FFV looks as bad as people say, but it could look a lot better. You could argue that they didn't really succeed in mobiles with their FFV "effort" either. Between 50 and 100K downloads on Google Play and ~91K on iOS.


I got FF Dimensions on Google Play. It was okay, but no way am I playing an RPG with touch controls again. Fucking digital buttons, my fingers hated me after that game.
I don't know how Aquamarine got those estimates/algorithms, but they seemed fairly feasible. I was also not impressed by any of those numbers, though SE obviously sees some potential there. Maybe they think if they can get 50-100K download for pretty much a ROM dump, they might as well do it? I am kind of hoping they will put some effort into their DQ and FFVI-VII ports, but most likely not.

What I don't get is why they just don't do a general dump across all platforms if that is their plan. The people who like games like Dragon Quest aren't really on mobiles.
 

Kid Ying

Member
Just saw the rankings for last week eshop downloads. Sonic was a little better than rayman, getting sandwiched between art academy and dqx. Assuming dqx sold something like 1k (which is a little farfetched, since its an old game) we are probabky seeing sales of a little more than 1k, since it still didnt outsold art academy.

At least its better than rayman, who didnt even win against dragon quest on its launch week.
 

cafemomo

Member
come on man, Wii U may be a bomba but it's not that bad
inb4 Xbox One becomes a smash hit in Japan

Unless they make "my little kinect can't be this cute!", the Xbox one will never overtake the WiiU.

I think Nintendo needs to do more than these bundles. That and the new Mario will just provided a small bump for the time being. I know the indie scene in Japan is small compared to the west, but I think Nintendo should try to help boost that up in the region.

That's why nobody (with brain) takes you seriously

that's nice.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
3DS numbers coming in November will not be pretty compared to last year. The 3DS had Animal Crossing in early November and the first party software is looking barren for the end of 2013. I hope Nintendo will be able to recoup that loss with Puzzle & Dragons release in early December as I sincerely believe it will be a success.

Lastly, I'm shocked that Nintendo did not announce the release date for Mario Party. It should be an early December release and could cross 500k by year-end if it releases during the holiday period.

I hope Nintendo achieves 5.5 million 3DS sales by year-end.
 
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