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True.
Even when trying to use PC games benchs we don't really know how the PS4/X1 versions stack up against the PC version of said multiplats.
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How does the PS4's specs stack up against various PC's (high, mid and low end)?
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True.
Even when trying to use PC games benchs we don't really know how the PS4/X1 versions stack up against the PC version of said multiplats.
jacksepticeye
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You could compare spec to spec all day long but the output of both would be different due to how the console is closed and in a different setup than the same PC components
So last of us looks better than crysis?
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Mid to Upper PC at launch. Mid end in 6 months.
Low end in a year.
Low end in a year.
Bullshit immediately.
NemesisPrime
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No it won't.
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PC games get more and more demanding with time too.
According to Dice for example, BF3 on consoles is even worse than low on PC.
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http://gamingbolt.com/battlefield-3-pc-on-low-is-console-settings-says-dice
The GPU in the pic (8800 GT) was a GPU that used to run games at ultra settings with higher fps than consoles back in 2006, now it can barely run games at lowest settings. I imagine same thing will happen this gen too, high-end GPUs of today like the 780/290x will struggle to run 2020 games at low settings.
Liberty4all
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Yeah I've known for awhile I need to upgrade my GPU ... been getting by mainly because I am hooked on a DOTA style game (Smite), so my current GPU has been fine for that.
I really just posed the question as I hadn't really thought about the whole multi platform angle once I have the PS4 and it's never been clear to me where the PS4 sits (*at launch) compared to my PC specifically. I knew my configuration was a popular one a couple years ago (since I bought it based on GAF's advice), figured there are probably other people wondering the same thing as me.
I really just posed the question as I hadn't really thought about the whole multi platform angle once I have the PS4 and it's never been clear to me where the PS4 sits (*at launch) compared to my PC specifically. I knew my configuration was a popular one a couple years ago (since I bought it based on GAF's advice), figured there are probably other people wondering the same thing as me.
Mt Heart Attack
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Looks multiple times better than Crysis would on a pc with Ps3-level specs.
andromeduck
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PS4 will be the rough equiv of a 760 by the end of this gen it'll be better at some things and worse at others
NemesisPrime
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They don't make those any more.
You're missing the "7650" part. PS4's GPU is far better than that.
i'd consider upper mid range to be an i5 4670k with a r9 280x. if we use battlefield as the most clean cut comparison, it's not even close. not even close to close.
Of course... so?
hemtae
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Not for the next couple of years at last.
yeah the PS4 allready mid-range as far as gaming pc's go.
That's a pretty good gpu, i would not upgrade anytime soon if i had it unless you're really chasing for top quality / performance in games.
Mt Heart Attack
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Yea, so? All I was saying is that it makes little sense to compare a console to a pc spec by spec when, going by past experience, consoles eventually are able to render graphics of a much higher level than any pc with comparable specs.
I think the comparison is completely illogic. Mid-range pc will no handle ps4 games in some years. I'm looking to watch dogs, for example.
I'd consider a 7850 (maybe 7870) with an i5 2500k to be mid-range. Considering that 20nm will probably blow these away next year, PS4 might be going to mid-range or below in a year.
Yes with 40% OC on the GPU. Gotcha *wink* *winkthis is how release version runs on a £175 video card and a four year old mid-range CPU:
Why not slap a waterblock on it and take it a bit further? Mmmm.
the limits of that card will be totally independent of what's going on with consoles. it's in a different stratosphere of performance.
I think as well people miss one of the most important points...
Games on the PC cost a 3rd of what is the current street value of Next Gen, and as long as you don't have to have the game day 1, you will get 10-15 for ONE PS4 game..
You have to factor that in, it is crazy not to.... Most peoples steam complication has been made in sales etc, and is a minuscule amount compared to what you will have to pay to replicate anywhere near that on a PS4...
Games on the PC cost a 3rd of what is the current street value of Next Gen, and as long as you don't have to have the game day 1, you will get 10-15 for ONE PS4 game..
You have to factor that in, it is crazy not to.... Most peoples steam complication has been made in sales etc, and is a minuscule amount compared to what you will have to pay to replicate anywhere near that on a PS4...
andromeduck
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only upgrade you sould consider in the next 1-2 years is gsync
after that probably 4k or 1440p monitors w/ gsync and whatever cards they have then
This response doesn't make sense. The game doesn't even run at 1080p.
You can't throw a chart up that lists 1080p and Ultra and say it falls somewhere in it.
Portugeezer
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In reality it's like mid-high.
If you compare spec numbers to the best PC's then it's like low-mid.
If you compare spec numbers to the best PC's then it's like low-mid.
What? You'll always be able to get games that look better than the PS4 version on a better PC.
I upgraded my 2008 PC for $260 to absolutely destroy it. It's lower end for desktops no matter what. Especially with such an arse CPU.
eot
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8800GT didn't come out until the end of 2007
ambar_hitman
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What about my PC?
AMD Phenom II 1055T, MSI 6850 1 GB OC edition and 8 GB 1600 Mhz DDR3 RAM?
AMD Phenom II 1055T, MSI 6850 1 GB OC edition and 8 GB 1600 Mhz DDR3 RAM?
if he had a waterblock he could easily push 4k. changing a couple of numbers in bios once every four years is within the means of most people who dress themselves in the morning.
No, you'll always be able to get game that look better of a ps4 version on a better pc which can handle it.
Pretty much dead once we're out of this cross-gen phase imo.
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Better CPU, worse GPU. Get a 280x and OC your CPU and you're set imo.
It makes sense only if you are intentionally are trying be dense. The chart also shows that the 7870 struggles to hold 50fps. Drop the resolution, some other settings and it'll get above 60 like the PS4.
Thats the best I could find given the lack of BF4 testing at the moment.
Thanks for proving my point.
Portugeezer
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And the PS4 is better than my 2011 £500+ PC.
In the real world PS4 doesn't get "destroyed" by PC.
Liberty4all
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Thanks guys, I think you all pretty much answered my question.
PC is ok, currently at the same level or a little above PS4. If I keep my PC in it's current configuration the PS4 will eventually beat my PC.
At that point upgrade my GPU and my PC will be back on top again.
PC is ok, currently at the same level or a little above PS4. If I keep my PC in it's current configuration the PS4 will eventually beat my PC.
At that point upgrade my GPU and my PC will be back on top again.
In "mid range" there is a word and it's "range".
So what's "range"? It's a variation in amounts.
So what's "mid range"? It's the middle point in the variation.
What's the middle point in PC Hardware right now? By your "rang", 99% of the PCs out there are in the "less than low" range. If you buy a laptop (and everyone has a laptop these days), you are "lesser than less than low" if you don't go over 800 here in France...
So upper mid range is a i5 4670k with a r9 280x? YOU HAVE TO BE JOKING RIGHT?
It's hard to find modern benchmarks, but at 720p the 7800 GTX (a GPU from 2005) performs better in L4D2 than the current gen consoles. Who knows what devs will do, but it certainly isn't improbable a GPU as powerful as the PS4 GPU will perform as well as it in the future. And if it doesn't upgrading a PC is luckily super easy
PS4 is GCN so I'd say it is fair to put it just above the 7850 and below the 7870 (270X). Both have slightly lower memory bandwidth though. 7800 series also has 32 ROPs like the PS4.
It's a 7950. It overclocks to the moon and back with a third party cooler.
What? Sure it does. The best thing about it is the GPU, and that's based on a midrange part from 18 months ago.
BrokenIcarus
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It's hard to compare but I think it's fair to say you won't get comparable performance if you build a completly new PC + OS/Keyboard/Mouse for 400
If you buy a laptop you can't expect a good price/performance ratio for gaming. That's always been the case.
Huh, I also have the same but with twice as much ram to make up for my half as big penis.
BibiMaghoo
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I haven't tried BF4 yet, but comparing what I can get away with on BF3, to what the PS4 version of BF4 looks like, I'm very comfortable with that statement.
The question of what PC hardware you'll need to meet or beat the 'experience' offered by PS4 will probably have an evolving answer over the generation.
If you want to know where the base spec would slot in with what's typical or less typical among PC owners, the latest Steam Hardware surveys would be a good reference I guess. http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
If you want to know where the base spec would slot in with what's typical or less typical among PC owners, the latest Steam Hardware surveys would be a good reference I guess. http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
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