Pop
Member
Why wouldn't he be able to? It's not like the console ban bricks your shit.
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So Target shipped someone an Xbox One already? [Update: console-banned until launch]
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Why wouldn't he be able to? It's not like the console ban bricks your shit.
Its still kinda wack of ms but not that big of a deal IF
they unban him after the 22nd. If not it would be just plain evil.
Petrae
Member
Which is still bullshit, unless the game has a street date legibly printed on the packaging or unless the TOS discloses that anyone who plays the game before the street date without explicit consent from the publisher or the service provider is subject to a ban.
If retailers screw up, the industry needs to take it up with the retailers. Once a customer legitimately buys a game, unless EXPLICITLY directed by warnings not to play before a certain date, it's not the customer's problem-- even if the industry wants to think it is.
I'm sorry for the guy, but he put a crossair on his back, when he started uploading shit.
Ms is known for doing this kind of stuff, then just download the update and go offline, then you can continue to play and if you wanna upload footage, just do it with a new youtube/twitter account.
Ms is known for doing this kind of stuff, then just download the update and go offline, then you can continue to play and if you wanna upload footage, just do it with a new youtube/twitter account.
Rocky_Balboa
Member
I'm more surprised about the Youtube unboxing video block. How is that protected by MS copyright? I know youtube has the worst user rights ever, but still it baffles me.
Pop
Member
Yeah customer support won't do a damn thing. It's a waste of a call.
Within the realms of ownership he can continue to do what he wants, he owns thw console he can play his games. XBL network fpr One is a different kettle of fish, and he doesnt have any claim until after it launches
something fishy
Member
I hope a lot of people tweet them and ensure it's a suspension at worse.
I can understand him not being allowed online with it until launch day.
I can understand him not being allowed online with it until launch day.
Customer support can't. Doesn't mean it's impossible.
While I think it's shitty that MS did this without any word, I also feel like the uploader had to know it was coming considering MS in the past and how secretive they've been with the X1 so far with embargoes and such for journalists.
I just hope MS comes through and unbans him by launch or else it really is a shitty move.
I just hope MS comes through and unbans him by launch or else it really is a shitty move.
UberTag
Member
I never said it was impossible. Just not something a phone call will fix. You can't "call" the Enforcement Team.
You have to write to corporate or Larry Hryb or get media exposure.
Marvel
could never
Target would just say he shouldn't have booted it up and connected it to the internet I guess. He would get the blame no doubt.
I agree. Good thing that isnt the case.
daninthemix
Member
I'm sure they will ultimately unban him, otherwise this will be a PR nightmare and PR has been a massive uphill struggle for MS all year.
My bad.
Linkstrikesback
Member
Only Microsoft is so gung ho about it. I bet sony wouldn't be banning the console if someone got a PS4 right now.
Caayn
Member
If it's a temporary ban until the launch I can understand it, as Microsoft doesn't want any footage leaked. But a permanent ban, no way! Microsoft needs to lift the ban on the launch.
Think of all the mom and pop stores selling these consoles before launch, are all their customers getting a perms ban.
Think of all the mom and pop stores selling these consoles before launch, are all their customers getting a perms ban.
That kinda is the case though. He got the console banned with no real way of unbanning it (afaik) just for using it early. How is that a good thing? If it was at least a temporary ban till launch I don't think there'd have been a problem but I don't think it is.
Defending? Not really. Just saying, everyone should have seen this coming with Microsoft's history.
True - but that's why I say spirit of the law.
MS are the ones who have been saying from day 1 that Online and Xbox Live are so incredibly fundamental to the XBone experience. They only agreed that mandatory online itself wasn't required after getting a mauling.
Would I want to get involved with a company with that threat hanging over me when they've sent a loud and clear message like this 12 days before launch?
Sony may on paper have the same policies I understand, but I'd like to think they would have had the PR savvy to handle it differently.
Hes banned from xbl, people are having problems with that important distinction. And theres absolutley no evidence that says hes banned for life from XBL. Can rhis guy still connect to xbl via Xbox 360..? If so seems like a temp ban.
He is a consumer, he didnt sign any draconian nda.
Exactly. He doesn't have to abide to that bullshit.
when they ban you, they usually do tell you for how long, isnt it?
Hmm but what MS state is an experience when they offcially launch, to be fair, they havent launched. Id expect the same from most service providers that detct aliens on thier service.
Marvel
could never
Very true, yet people who have received games a couple weeks early and connected online with it have been banned before by Microsoft.
I'm just wondering whether or not they got pissed at him for showing the OS. Maybe on release day there's another patch or something. Dunno just thinking out loud. If he didn't upload pics and videos maybe he would have been safe.
Jawmuncher
Member
Seems to me the biggest issue is them not stating how long the ban is for.
I know on the original 360 it would say how long you were banned for.
I know on the original 360 it would say how long you were banned for.
It's too late to unban him now, because of all the embargoed stuff. Unbanning now would lend implicit support to his revealing stuff. But they can unban him on the 22nd and apologize for any misunderstanding or something with a nice care package. Maybe XBL for the life of the console or something for being the first known ban on the new XBL? It'd be cute and everyone would be all "hellz I'd trade a two week ban for free XBL for life!"
dreamer3kx
Member
Why ban, the man purchased their product, who cares if he got it early, this is why I hate MS and their whole shit.
How exactly are they supposed to know he bought it legally? This is just par the course for what should be done in a situation like this.
What he can do now is to contact MS with proof of purchase so that he can be unbanned, but even at that, I doubt he would be unbanned until the 22nd.
What he can do now is to contact MS with proof of purchase so that he can be unbanned, but even at that, I doubt he would be unbanned until the 22nd.
Not a chance. Best he can hope for is a quiet unbanning.
Coffee Dog
Banned
You can't expect him to know that Microsoft would punish him for something that isn't his fault.
Coffee Dog
Banned
This doesn't happen. Gaffers have presented proof of purchase before and not had bans lifted. If you get fucked, you're fucked.