benjipwns
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PS4 fastest-selling console in UK history, outsells Wii U LTD in UK [250K PS4 in 48h]
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DidntKnowJack
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Hey I love Nintendo as much as the next guy, but if Nintendo goes away, that's on them. Stop portraying them as helpless victims in your little scenario of doom.
Besides, they aren't going anywhere. Stop being so melodramatic.
Has it expanded, though?
Or has Sony gobbled up the majority of the console gamer install base? Nintendo's install base has shrunken, and those guys didn't just disappear.
You would think we would be used to the sting of seeing Platinum's games be commercial failures almost every single time. But it still hurts so badly.
I'm sure they'll move right on to the next games that used to sell big like Mario Kart and Smash. That's what they did with this new 3D Mario even though a NSMB game didn't do anything for the Wii U. People need to accept that just because some games sold a ridiculous amount on Wii doesn't mean anything for the here and now.
It's going to be worse this time since Bayonetta 1 actually sold decently for platinum but the sequel is going to bomb.
I doubt it. Not it enough supply. They send probably a third of their EU shipments to UK.
I say about 750k-850k. They also seem to restock in US. And if they managed to produce 2 million units not all can be shipped.
250K UK
100k France
100k Germany
~200k+ Rest EU + Latin america
Not at all.
Tallying the launch figures together and comparing it to 360 and PS3, yes it has grown.
Sega didn't have 3DS sales (hardware and software) or Nintendo current coffers. That will never happen.
googleplex
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Absolutely none! At this rate I can see Nintendo dropping the Wii U by next year.
But Price is king. If Nintendo can get the Wii U down to $199 soon I think they can turn it around.
FWIW, they sold 600k PS3s in it's launch weekend and 165k were in the UK.
If they hit the same ratio this time then 250k in the UK means about 910k across the EU.
I don't know if they are hitting more countries this time though.
Last time France, Germany, Spain all sold about or just under half what the UK did.
Palette Swap
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Yeah, that's going to suck hard. Bayonetta sold over a million and was considered not great, this will be bad.
I remember when a few months ago some people thought W101 and Bayo 2 would be P*'s biggest sellers.
Well, as long as P* stay afloat and keep making awesome games, I'll be happy.
I don't know, they didn't seem to be offended by No More Heroes, so why should Bayonetta be different?
realy sure not, NIntendo is not SEGA at this point.
Yeah. It's a uncertain 1 million. But the audience seems to be there. And I imagine Sony would prioritize 1 million+ units for their most dependable region, particularly after a 2 week launch delay to probably assure that amount.
But 750k seems more dependable.
ShogunDarius
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if they did die, would that mean the death of region locking too?
I'm mostly talking about the port begging that will occur. I don't think anyone expects Bayonetta 2 to sell well at all
QuicheFontaine
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Lol, it's "only" the biggest launch sales ever in the UK.
freenudemacusers
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I think you have that wrong. look at how well received madworld and house of the dead
verkill for the wii were.this isn't even mentioning miyamoto's secret wii u game, which is nintendo's real ace in the hole.
No More Heroes has a weird sense of humor. Bayonetta is 'slash the enemies while you fight the PS2-era camera system and if you kill them just right the camera will pan in the right way so you can see an upskirt of your purposefully-designed-to-be-'sexy'-to-the-kind-of-people-who-have-never-seen-a-woman-in-real-life character. Also the game is poorly written and has frame rate problems and isn't fun.
Huge difference. All the difference, really.
Prince Vultan
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Organising a sudoku pact with Goomba and Frankie_baby I'd wager.
googleplex
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Unfortunately none. The current Nintendo leadership would sooner drop out of the home console market entirely and concentrate only on handhelds before they let that happen.
Of course if there some sort of massive change in leadership and a shift in culture at Nintendo, anything is possible.
HEEEEEEEEEEEERE'S SONY!
I think you have that wrong. look at how well received madworld and house of the dead
this isn't even mentioning miyamoto's secret wii u game, which is nintendo's real ace in the hole.
Please tell me you are a joke poster
benjipwns
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You can't just do that with Nintendo games, they're too intrinsically linked with the unique platforms they're on. You'd literally be ripping the soul out of the subtly crafted gameplay to even attempt something like that.
As much as I like some of my Wii U games, the failure is all on Nintendo and not the consumer.
The fact that there's a significant portion of people here that either:
a) don't know it exists
b) think it's something to do with the wii and not a standalone product
Is quite telling. It's been a year and the Wii U is still priced at more than it should be and has maybe 3-4 games which can be considered great. Add that to the lacklustre hardware and gimmick controller and it's pretty easy to see why it doesn't sell. If I wasn't interested in games like Pikmin 3, SM3DW and Wonderful 101 I'd laugh at the idea of buying one.
The fact that there's a significant portion of people here that either:
a) don't know it exists
b) think it's something to do with the wii and not a standalone product
Is quite telling. It's been a year and the Wii U is still priced at more than it should be and has maybe 3-4 games which can be considered great. Add that to the lacklustre hardware and gimmick controller and it's pretty easy to see why it doesn't sell. If I wasn't interested in games like Pikmin 3, SM3DW and Wonderful 101 I'd laugh at the idea of buying one.
Mr Stewart
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PS4.
The fastest selling console in UK history and given the pre launch hype it's no mystery, as to how it's done so well.
So says, Mr Stewart.
The fastest selling console in UK history and given the pre launch hype it's no mystery, as to how it's done so well.
So says, Mr Stewart.
In the UK, launch weekend sales.
Last-Gen: PS3 (165,000) + Wii (105,000) + 360 (70,000) = 340,000
Current-Gen: PS4 (250,000) + Wii U approx. (40,000) + XBONE (150,000) = 440,000
Well I'll be ...
Infinite_Daremo
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Why would a product not selling ever be the consumers fault? Has anyone even hinted at this?
TheRealTalker
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Lol a new meme is born
Nintendo Gameplay is the only true gameplay
According to some posters
No.
I like Knack and I hope we see more of it in the future but celebrating some sales success at the expense of another game that I'm sure is just as deserving is hardly the way i'd like to go about it.
LowEndTorque
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So the PS4 shattered launch records in both of Microsoft's strongholds (USA + UK).
Mattrick am cry.
Mattrick am cry.
Haunted
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Are you saying that Sony will be left for dead outside in the cold and Nintendo will survive?
Looking at the other Japanese developers, if such a shit will happen in the end, you will probably play Mario on iPad Earth and Samsung Galaxy Tab 69.
googleplex
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Uh... What? That not even a little bit true. There's nothing magical about a box with Nintendo on it that makes games somehow better. Mario, Zelda, and Metroid would still be wonderful games if you could play them on a PS4.
(Not that I think that'll ever hapoen)
shadowsdarknes
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Those games look unlikely to do anything significant to the sales charts.
They look good though!
freenudemacusers
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I don't follow. Yes, the Wii U had a rough start, but there are signs of a correction taking place. look at how they allowed sqeenix to port all those old dragon quest games to the iphone; your typical forum fanboy would chalk that up as a loss.
but iwata-san is smarter. mobile gamers (and lots of console gamers tbh) have no problem playing retreads, so why not throw them a bone as free advertising for the wii u's upcoming dragon quest x? the mindshare potential is off the charts. when kids playing on ipads/phones get tired of their dull, stickless, buttonless capacitive screens, where are they going to turn?
In other words, they both have a weird sense of humor. And I don't see how your personal opinion on the game has any relevance in the discussion.
The Wii U's future is Donkey Kong Country Returns 2, and new Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros. Brawl 2 and a new Zelda, eventually.
5 'good' games a year doesn't seem likely to me. You'll get a great Zelda one year, and a great Mario the next, and all the other titles in-between, sometimes.
Ghosts has been out longer and killzone was bundled.
I don't see how what Bayonetta does qualifies as humor.
This is a discussion. Opinions are what we share.
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