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Windows 7 gained more marketshare in November than Win 8/8.1

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Microsoft's Windows 7 still holds more market share than Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 combined.
Even more disturbing, for Microsoft, is that Windows 7 has actually gained more market share than the newer versions of Windows.
Statistics provided by Netapplications in its Netmarketshare report for November show that Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 have gained a mere 0.05 percent, with Windows 8 reaching a satanic 6.66 percent.
This is hardly market saturation 13 months after release. Compare that to Windows 7, which despite being over four years old and just 18 months from End of Life still has 46.64 percent of the market. That's just a tiny increase of 0.22 percent, but it's a clear demonstration that most PC users are avoiding Windows 8.
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http://m.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2316460/windows-7-gains-more-market-share-than-windows-8-and-81
 
Is this a new trend or something that has happened in the past as well? I know lots of larger companies still use XP on a lot of their systems, and many are only just upgrading their systems to Windows 7. I wouldn't be surprised if this also occurred back in the first days of Vista/7 that XP was still gaining, or at least no losing, market share. Then again people really seem to hate 8 almost as much or more than Vista, so I wouldn't be that surprised if it's a new phenomena.
 
Unfortunate. I guess the public perception of 8 is that bad? Maybe they should've marketed 8.1 more.
 
Kinda bummer that people are still buying inferior OS's because they are afraid of better operating systems. Shit sells, I guess.
 
I couldn't be happier with Windows 8/8.1. It's way faster than Windows 7 in every area, and doesn't lag or freeze as much, and that's what I'm looking for in a computer. Wouldn't be able to go back to Windows 7.
 
TomoK said:
I couldn't be happier with Windows 8/8.1. It's way faster than Windows 7 in every area, and doesn't lag or freeze as much, and that's what I'm looking for in a computer. Wouldn't be able to go back to Windows 7.
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Windows 7 really didn't have a problem in this regard.

On the other hand, on Windows 8.1, my mouse movements start to lag when I start transferring large files between disk drives. It's been reported as an issue with some games as well.
 
I got a new laptop a few months ago and Windows 8 is terrible. Had to buy a proper start button and install tons of mods to get it decent. Just terrible a terrible update, I loved XP and 7.
 
GregLombardi said:
How is 8 a better OS?
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UI is a cluster IMO

Still the back end stuff like kernel and things like the networking stack are just flat out better than Win 7. That's not even up to debate.

It's all the user facing forward features that are maddening to a large swath of people.
 
The 8 UI was the right move. Hardware just wasn't ready yet.

Laptops with touchscreens are just now showing up in the mid/lower price tier and will eventually be standard.

The bitching and complaining will disappear eventually.

8.2 or 9 will come out and work identically and yet people will claim MS "finally" got the UI right and adopt it en-masse, and we will go through this all over again in 20 years.

Super tiresome.
 
I always get a kick out of the Win 8 naysayers. It was inconvenient for like a day and half before I got used to it.
 
PetriP-TNT said:
It's a operating system that has everything that Windows 7 has plus tons more on every aspect? How it's not a better OS?
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All an OS means to most people nowadays is a UI. And the UI is atrocious. Its like they took half of Apple's UI design and threw away the better half instead of slimming it down.
 
BLunted said:
I always get a kick out of the Win 8 naysayers. It was inconvenient for like a day and half before I got used to it.
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Its ok if you dont have many applications installed on your computer. Or if you have alot of Metro apps.

Its terrible for Office productivity
 
PetriP-TNT said:
Kinda bummer that people are still buying inferior OS's because they are afraid of better operating systems. Shit sells, I guess.
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Shit? Windows 7 is the first operating system that does not hold me back in any way possible. I never feel a performance drop relevant enough so I get pissed off, I never have freezes and weird things.

With its more than friendly price now, if I were to assemble brand new PC's, I would buy Win7-s for them, not 8. Name one feature for which I actually *need* Windows 8. I know of none. And until that changes, Win7 FTW for me.
 
methane47 said:
Its ok if you dont have many applications installed on your computer. Or if you have alot of Metro apps.

Its terrible for Office productivity
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My Metro screen consists of 1 tile. Desktop.

I actively keep that screen clear and usually only see it for about 2 seconds on bootup.

EDIT: Also, forgot to add, if you dont mind spending $4, you can get Start8
 
I'd give 8 a try, but the upgrade price is not justifiable to me.
(I think there was some time window to upgrade cheaply, but I missed it.)
 
BLunted said:
My Metro screen consists of 1 tile. Desktop.

I actively keep that screen clear and usually only see it for about 2 seconds on bootup.

EDIT: Also, forgot to add, if you dont mind spending $4, you can get Start8
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Good idea with the Metro screen. My parents keep toggling it on despite my efforts to remove it for them. Adding only a desktop tile should fix this.
 
Their loss, I was reluctant doubter too, until i started experimenting with all the features the OS comes with, huge improvement for me, way way faster and the interface is certainly functional (at least for me) will never look back.
 
Sho_Nuff82 said:
A shame, the new Bay trails 8.1 tablets are what a Windows 8 should have been in the first place.
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Yep.

I used a Microsoft Surface Pro 2 yesterday with 8.1 on it, and I pretty much get that paradigm now. The Metro tiles make perfect sense from a touch/tablet computing standpoint, and Windows 8/8.1 also has the old-school desktop/window style computing in full in it, so that's perfect too (even via touch if you're using a pen).

My first Windows 8.1 device will be a Bay Trail tablet, and I'll move to 8.1 or 9 on my desktop/laptop pretty soon too. 7 is absolutely fantastic, but 8.x is full-fat 7 plus extra stuff. How could that be bad?
 
jamesinclair said:
The fact that I had to Google how to close a program and how to restart means no office anywhere will ever downgrade to 8
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No office should ever upgrade to W8. The effort it would take to educate a large number of people wouldn't be worth it.

MS needs to understand difference between normal desktop usage vs. tablet usage. They both shouldn't share the same screen.

It's as simple as giving an option to boot to desktop with old start menu in W 8.1
 
Well companies just start upgrading to Win 7. We are finally moving away from Windows XP and migrating to Windows 7 here for our 70k or so employees. I think we will skip Win 8 and go to Win 9 when the time comes in about 10 years.
 
My company is contributing to this. We have deployed about 100 PCs this year from xp to windows 7 at various businesses. People hate windows 8 in about five minutes of using it.
 
alexandros said:
Why is that? Is it the UI?
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Yep. When you are dealing with older people who have been using XP for a decade in a business that Metro UI app page is terrifying to them. We have had users just quit using laptops that came with Windows 8 instead of using the computer. Windows 8 needs a 60 minute interactive tutorial at the start to even get long time XP users to think about touching it. On top of it just not working with a ton of business apps still.
 
If metro was optional in Windows 8, and only installed in their tablet, W8 would be an improvement.
But until it gets a start bar from the get-go, it will remain inferiour to Windows 7.

/Owner of a computer with W8.1

captmcblack said:
Yep.

I used a Microsoft Surface Pro 2 yesterday with 8.1 on it, and I pretty much get that paradigm now. The Metro tiles make perfect sense from a touch/tablet computing standpoint, and Windows 8/8.1 also has the old-school desktop/window style computing in full in it, so that's perfect too (even via touch if you're using a pen).

My first Windows 8.1 device will be a Bay Trail tablet, and I'll move to 8.1 or 9 on my desktop/laptop pretty soon too. 7 is absolutely fantastic, but 8.x is full-fat 7 plus extra stuff. How could that be bad?
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It doesn't have a start menu.
 
Had W8 for a few days and that thing was terrible. The UI is unbearable and the shitty metro typography everywhere just makes it worse. This was also before they even had a start button (which I heard isnt even a real start button). If they got rid of all the stupid tiles layouts or even made it optional, I would consider it, but till then I'll just stick with W7 and OSX Mavericks.
 
As a person who uses Win8.1 on multiple desktops, a laptop and a Surface, I like everything about it except for Metro and how it hides settings and makes simple tasks more complicated.

The problem with Metro isn't just that it's a touch UI on non-touch devices, it's a bad touch UI even if you're on a touch device. On my surface I prefer using the regular UI for every task, Metro gestures are dumb, the interface is too cluttered and any basic task requires too many steps to take. Contrasting that to my ipad and android tablet, the ipad/android is much easier to use. The UI is more responsive and easier to use. Metro is just a disaster even if you're using touch.

Other minor improvements and the behind-the-curtain stuff are great. But Metro is downright bad for everything.
 
I think I may be the only guy who doesn't mind windows 8. There are only two times I actually see metro: When I want to start an application I do not have pinned to my task bar and when I want to shutdown my computer (tile shortcut to shutdown and reboot). And even when I launch an application I see it for like the 5 seconds it takes me to type in the name of the application. I really enjoy not having a desktop cluttered with shortcuts.
 
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