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Iwata: I misread the market, the company needs to keep track of foreign trends better

My point is that since most 3rd party games will end up on the PC, the only games that matter are the 1st/2nd party games. If you prefer Nintendo games, you'll buy a Wii U, no matter the technology. If you prefer Last of us, Uncharted etc, you'll get a PS4. The tech doesn't matter any more.

Nope. SM3DW has sold quite poorly. Nintendo fans aren't flocking to the Wii U. Its selling worse than the GC last I saw. Tech matters which is one reason the Wii U is failing. Without the gimmick that the Wii had the Wii U doesn't even have first party exclusives that it can depend on.
 

LocalE

Member
Well I've only read through page 9, I'll have to come back and finish later, but these statements just have me thinking wtf? Really.

no they aren't wtf

Is this the new justification for Iwata under powering systems and making safer games?

How the fuck are they not a toy company?
Do you have to espouse a belief that games aren't toys in order to feel all grown up or something?
Games are toys.
If Nintendo is not a toy company then they have a strange way of being a "not-toy company".

Nintendo as just a toy company needs to end. This is the fundamental change in business they need to make. It's no longer possible to simply release novel, one dimensional products and succeed. Nintendo needs to become a technology, entertainment and services company.

If their technology and services are purpose built to enable the playing of video games, (that being the main 'entertainment' bit), then they will still be a toy company.
Games are toys.
How can games not inherently be toys?
 

akira28

Member
funnily enough, I read that title as "needs to keep track of foreign friends better" and I was like "hey this guy gets it".
 

QaaQer

Member
Well I've only read through page 9, I'll have to come back and finish later, but these statements just have me thinking wtf? Really.



How the fuck are they not a toy company?
Do you have to espouse a belief that games aren't toys in order to feel all grown up or something?
Games are toys.
If Nintendo is not a toy company then they have a strange way of being a "not-toy company".



If their technology and services are purpose built to enable the playing of video games, (that being the main 'entertainment' bit), then they will still be a toy company.
Games are toys.
How can games not inherently be toys?

Nintendo sees themselves as an entertainment softtware company and not a toy company, as they belong to the entertainment software industry body and not the toy makers one.
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
Nope. SM3DW has sold quite poorly. Nintendo fans aren't flocking to the Wii U. Its selling worse than the GC last I saw. Tech matters which is one reason the Wii U is failing. Without the gimmick that the Wii had the Wii U doesn't even have first party exclusives that it can depend on.

Third party support is what matters. Consumers buy the winners, not the losers. They want the systems from the companies that can deliver the goods.

It's why systems like Dreamcast and Wii U get trounced.

It'll be interesting to see what Nintendo does in the future. But if they roll out a new console down the road with no third party backing they'll find themselves on the losing end again.
 

prag16

Banned
Except as of now consoles aren't competing with the PC.
Then how is that having a decent gaming PC removed my need to buy any non Nintendo consoles basically ever (until I picked up a used PS3 for $100 a few months ago), and I have no intention of buying. Ps4bone either?
 

Cygnus X-1

Member
This is precisely what you are saying through the language you are using. Iwata did not have to "force" anything through in this era. Iwata steers Nintendo totally and absolutely right now. There is no board he has to go through, he is the CEO and thats what that means. There is no mythical board above even him. Thats about to change because yes, stockholders are now going to force him to dance to their tune, but up until now if he said jump its jumping time.

Also if the burden of his proof was waiting for a Christmas miracle and hoping it stuck, does that not reveal what a crapshoot CEO he is? A year and 3 months of apocalyptic EU sales, far below expectations US sales, and western third parties leaving in droves, even laughing about the company in public. But only now is the time for change because new year and all that.

Do you mind one question? If Iwata is as incompetent as you are saying (and facts partly supports you), how an expert of the industry like Yamauchi could choose him as successor?
 

QaaQer

Member
Then how is that having a decent gaming PC removed my need to buy any non Nintendo consoles basically ever (until I picked up a used PS3 for $100 a few months ago), and I have no intention of buying. Ps4bone either?

Part of how markets are defined is by pricepoint and useage. So, when looking at people who want to buy a ready-made product that will run entertainment software on their tv in the <$500 group, you are looking at ps360, bone, 4, and wii u. Maybe in the future, steambox will legitimately be in that group as, but not today.

does that mean there isn't overlap? Like with you? No, it does not. A similar thing happens with handhelds and home consoles, different markets but there is some overlap with people who find a handheld gives them enough gaming to forgo a console or gaming pc.
 

prag16

Banned
Part of how markets are defined is by pricepoint and useage. So, when looking at people who want to buy a ready-made product that will run entertainment software on their tv in the <$500 group, you are looking at ps360, bone, 4, and wii u. Maybe in the future, steambox will legitimately be in that group as, but not today.

does that mean there isn't overlap? Like with you? No, it does not. A similar thing happens with handhelds and home consoles, different markets but there is some overlap with people who find a handheld gives them enough gaming to forgo a console or gaming pc.

Where there's overlap there's competition, if not entirely direct competition. Hell, the PS4/xbone competition doesn't line up 100% either. The same argument can and is used to assert that Nintendo consoles don't directly compete with the others.
 

shandy706

Member
I feel a high-end virtual reality 3D headset from Nintendo coming in 3 years.

Not saying that's what they should do, but it's coming.
 

leroidys

Member
It's not as if we got such titles at the moment en masse. You reference games such as Excite Truck or Sin & Punishment - but it's 2013 already. The Wii and DS lineup was a lot more diverse. Just take a look at Nintendo's lineup on Wii U and 3DS.

But why would they not release games such as Fire Emblem or Rhythm Heaven anymore considering they are profitable? It's not as if we only got sequels in blockbuster series from other 3rd parties. Only if Nintendo wants to continue its current course (i.e. downwards), they will rely even more on Mario & Zelda. Franchise fatigue is already setting in if sales are any indication.

Something like W101 might not be funded anymore. Though outside of the three NeoGAF users who liked it, not a lot of people will miss it. Perhaps they will focus on some more appealing titles instead. If the Wii U and 3DS have shown one thing, it's that just more of the same won't be the solution.
So you're saying that we shouldn't be worried if Nintendo stops funding niche or oddball games because we're the only ones who like them? Worst argument ever.
 
This is funny....

32gb Wii U System: $99 New
Wii U Pro Controller: $49.99 New
Wii U Gamepad: $150 (White) $178 (Black) New
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180px-WHY.jpg


Needless to say....Come on Nintendo, drop the shitty gamepad support (make it an optional accessory) and release a patch for any past games that required mandatory gamepad support. Spend more money investing in new IP'S, and release some goddamn gba,n64,gc games on the virtual console....The current selection is pathetic considering how much money is to be made by just releasing old classics...
 

QaaQer

Member
Where there's overlap there's competition, if not entirely direct competition. Hell, the PS4/xbone competition doesn't line up 100% either. The same argument can and is used to assert that Nintendo consoles don't directly compete with the others.

I was talking from a retailing/marketing POV.
 

Shiggy

Member
I feel a high-end virtual reality 3D headset from Nintendo coming in 3 years.

Not saying that's what they should do, but it's coming.

Probably a headset with two low-res screens, with one being larger than the other, and made of fisher price quality.


So you're saying that we shouldn't be worried if Nintendo stops funding niche or oddball games because we're the only ones who like them? Worst argument ever.

It's just natural that they won't produce software that nobody wants (Wonderful 101). I'm not saying that they will stop producing niche titles, I'd just suggest that they are made a bit more appealing. Perhaps choose an appealing design or an appealing gameplay system.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Do you mind one question? If Iwata is as incompetent as you are saying (and facts partly supports you), how an expert of the industry like Yamauchi could choose him as successor?

This is a loaded question, because you can even remove Yamauchi from the picture and say "If Iwata is no good, why is he in charge of a company?" which simplifies to "Whoever is in charge of a company must be good at their job".
 

Effer

Member
Nah, lower-end and cheaper but with fantastic games.

Cheap VR is bad news bears. I think enthusiasts will be using VR within a year or two with their high end PCs, but it'll be some time before penny-pinching Nintendo is able to offer a VR product that gives them a HUGE profit margin and acceptable performance.
 

:-)

Banned
I dunno where to post these following informations and please take it with an grand of salt, but according to a source of mine:

-Nintendo is working for several years on a new System. Not just a gaming system.

-Nintendo Direct is planed for this upcoming week = Mario kart 8 release date, Super smash bros release date, two new game announcements.

-Pokken is real. Pokemon/Tekken. Release date set for September 2014.

-Two Metroid games in development. One almost finished. Releasing Oktober 2014.

-ZeldaU is releasing Holiday 2014. Much darker and mature - u can feel the spirt of majoras mask in it.

-Japanese third partys are gathering closer around Nintendo. New exclusive deal and ips are going to be revealed.

-we are going to see at least 3 old long anticipated franchises from Nintendo this year

-New miyamoto ip. Only information is that there is no information. Kept very secret.

-eshop and retail games are getting cheaper

-Nintendo is going to drop some huge game changing suprises.

Well like i said, take it with a grand of salt, but according in what position my source is working, it seems really trustworthy.
 

delta25

Banned
I guess it safe to say that a wiiU successor is going to happen a lot sooner than we think.

Christmas 2015 or early 2016 perhaps
 
I dunno where to post these following informations and please take it with an grand of salt, but according to a source of mine:

-Nintendo is working for several years on a new System. Not just a gaming system.

-Nintendo Direct is planed for this upcoming week = Mario kart 8 release date, Super smash bros release date, two new game announcements.

-Pokken is real. Pokemon/Tekken. Release date set for September 2014.

-Two Metroid games in development. One almost finished. Releasing Oktober 2014.

-ZeldaU is releasing Holiday 2014. Much darker and mature - u can feel the spirt of majoras mask in it.

-Japanese third partys are gathering closer around Nintendo. New exclusive deal and ips are going to be revealed.

-we are going to see at least 3 old long anticipated franchises from Nintendo this year

-New miyamoto ip. Only information is that there is no information. Kept very secret.

-eshop and retail games are getting cheaper

-Nintendo is going to drop some huge game changing suprises.

Well like i said, take it with a grand of salt, but according in what position my source is working, it seems really trustworthy.

Willing to put your GAF membership on the line with your 'source'? PM a mod so they can confirm you're legit or you're playing a risky game.
 

Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Do you mind one question? If Iwata is as incompetent as you are saying (and facts partly supports you), how an expert of the industry like Yamauchi could choose him as successor?

I think its interesting that before the 'succession', in came Asada out of nowhere into a big important role and within a year was setting up deals that would lead to the Wii. After that, and even with announcing Iwata as the successor, Asada was assigned a role where he was essentially holding Iwata's leash.

Perhaps Yamauchi felt that Asada would rub off a lot more on Iwata. Asada however just slinks off into the sunset (I never even knew this until I asked Aqua, and I find it supremely odd) and Iwata's Nintendo begins with no more Yamauchi influence of note. I think Iwata can achieve a lot of things, but as a global company's CEO, his vision is far too narrow and he never made the business contacts of importance outside of Japan that the Nintendo before him did. Indeed, as many point to the shutting down of NOA under Iwata's General Manager watch is when you can point to the real root of today's Nintendo's big problems. Not sure, but I'd be fascinated to know how that all shook out with how Arakawa left the company considering he was part of the Yamauchi family. Just what on earth happened there.

I mean Yamauchi certainly wasn't some flawless prodigy either. We're talking about a man badmouthing the internet and third parties, burning bridges, and more. Picking a bit of a lame duck as CEO certainly wasn't beyond him, as was losing key people like Gunpei over one flop as well. While he certainly could be an uncanny eye for talent, he also cripplingly wasn't much of a long-term thinker either. Maybe he just felt Iwata's genuine enthusiasm for games and superior understand of them would just translate to success. Who's to say. Results speak for themselves now though.
 

Nilaul

Member
What I expected of wii2 (pure evolution):

jXGFJQC.jpg

The Best of both worlds, both of the components would feature evolved wii motion plus features and IR. Third parties couldn't blame the controller, because it would have everything required and more.

And a powerful console.

What we got.. was something else.
 
I dunno where to post these following informations and please take it with an grand of salt, but according to a source of mine:

-Nintendo is working for several years on a new System. Not just a gaming system.

-Nintendo Direct is planed for this upcoming week = Mario kart 8 release date, Super smash bros release date, two new game announcements.

-Pokken is real. Pokemon/Tekken. Release date set for September 2014.

-Two Metroid games in development. One almost finished. Releasing Oktober 2014.

-ZeldaU is releasing Holiday 2014. Much darker and mature - u can feel the spirt of majoras mask in it.

-Japanese third partys are gathering closer around Nintendo. New exclusive deal and ips are going to be revealed.

-we are going to see at least 3 old long anticipated franchises from Nintendo this year

-New miyamoto ip. Only information is that there is no information. Kept very secret.

-eshop and retail games are getting cheaper

-Nintendo is going to drop some huge game changing suprises.

Well like i said, take it with a grand of salt, but according in what position my source is working, it seems really trustworthy.
You said it yourself
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What they should do is invest a small amount of money on a separate mobile division that can make the puzzle and card games investors are clamoring for on mobile and get it over with.

Let the other teams keep doing what they're doing and see what money comes in from a few cheap cash in f2p apps with monetization hooks. They could even have a small team in Japan and one in the us. Hire some people with experience with f2p that know how to design something to suck money from stupid people and kids. Why not? Get some while its still a thing.
 
I can see it now a survival based, Dark Souls inspired, Zelda game incoming! Now that will appeal to the dudebro masses.
Except as of now consoles aren't competing with the PC. Wii U is competing with the PS4/XB1 and in that context it's an outdated piece of hardware.

Since when were consoles not competing with the PC and what makes you make this claim?
 

Terrell

Member
It's not as if we got such titles at the moment en masse. You reference games such as Excite Truck or Sin & Punishment - but it's 2013 already. The Wii and DS lineup was a lot more diverse. Just take a look at Nintendo's lineup on Wii U and 3DS.

But why would they not release games such as Fire Emblem or Rhythm Heaven anymore considering they are profitable? It's not as if we only got sequels in blockbuster series from other 3rd parties. Only if Nintendo wants to continue its current course (i.e. downwards), they will rely even more on Mario & Zelda. Franchise fatigue is already setting in if sales are any indication.

Something like W101 might not be funded anymore. Though outside of the three NeoGAF users who liked it, not a lot of people will miss it. Perhaps they will focus on some more appealing titles instead. If the Wii U and 3DS have shown one thing, it's that just more of the same won't be the solution.
"Profitable" by what standard?

As a 1st party, there's no licensing fees to pay. That adds to profit and isn't there when you're a 3rd party.
As a 1st party, you have a stronger control of the distribution chain that provides greater accessibility to content for consumers and more potential sales. That would be lost as a 3rd party.
As a 1st party, you have a stronger position when it comes to marketing buys, giving you more marketing options to incite higher sales numbers. That's lost as a 3rd party.

Take all these things away and then tell me that Fire Emblem and Rhythm Heaven could be "profitable" in the same way they are now.
The very nature of 3rd-party business nowadays increases risk aversion.
 
I dunno where to post these following informations and please take it with an grand of salt, but according to a source of mine:

-Nintendo is working for several years on a new System. Not just a gaming system.

-Nintendo Direct is planed for this upcoming week = Mario kart 8 release date, Super smash bros release date, two new game announcements.

-Pokken is real. Pokemon/Tekken. Release date set for September 2014.

-Two Metroid games in development. One almost finished. Releasing Oktober 2014.

-ZeldaU is releasing Holiday 2014. Much darker and mature - u can feel the spirt of majoras mask in it.

-Japanese third partys are gathering closer around Nintendo. New exclusive deal and ips are going to be revealed.

-we are going to see at least 3 old long anticipated franchises from Nintendo this year

-New miyamoto ip. Only information is that there is no information. Kept very secret.

-eshop and retail games are getting cheaper

-Nintendo is going to drop some huge game changing suprises.

Well like i said, take it with a grand of salt, but according in what position my source is working, it seems really trustworthy.
Hahahahaha. Reads like a crazy Nintendo fanboy's wet dream.

This post was sponsored by the words 'please' and 'understand'.
 
Hahahahaha. Reads like a crazy Nintendo fanboy's wet dream.

This post was sponsored by the words 'please' and 'understand'.

jt would make sense to put out the release dates for mk8 and smash though. Pokken fighters was rumored heavily elsewhere.

the other stuff is so vague as to be mostly meaningless, so probably not true.
 
I dunno where to post these following informations and please take it with an grand of salt, but according to a source of mine:

-Nintendo is working for several years on a new System. Not just a gaming system.

-Nintendo Direct is planed for this upcoming week = Mario kart 8 release date, Super smash bros release date, two new game announcements.

-Pokken is real. Pokemon/Tekken. Release date set for September 2014.

-Two Metroid games in development. One almost finished. Releasing Oktober 2014.

-ZeldaU is releasing Holiday 2014. Much darker and mature - u can feel the spirt of majoras mask in it.

-Japanese third partys are gathering closer around Nintendo. New exclusive deal and ips are going to be revealed.

-we are going to see at least 3 old long anticipated franchises from Nintendo this year

-New miyamoto ip. Only information is that there is no information. Kept very secret.

-eshop and retail games are getting cheaper

-Nintendo is going to drop some huge game changing suprises.

Well like i said, take it with a grand of salt, but according in what position my source is working, it seems really trustworthy.

A PokemonxTekken game!? This would be more believable if it were a Pokemon Strategy game like League or DOTA.
 
I dunno where to post these following informations and please take it with an grand of salt, but according to a source of mine:

-Nintendo is working for several years on a new System. Not just a gaming system.

-Nintendo Direct is planed for this upcoming week = Mario kart 8 release date, Super smash bros release date, two new game announcements.

-Pokken is real. Pokemon/Tekken. Release date set for September 2014.

-Two Metroid games in development. One almost finished. Releasing Oktober 2014.

-ZeldaU is releasing Holiday 2014. Much darker and mature - u can feel the spirt of majoras mask in it.

-Japanese third partys are gathering closer around Nintendo. New exclusive deal and ips are going to be revealed.

-we are going to see at least 3 old long anticipated franchises from Nintendo this year

-New miyamoto ip. Only information is that there is no information. Kept very secret.

-eshop and retail games are getting cheaper

-Nintendo is going to drop some huge game changing suprises.

Well like i said, take it with a grand of salt, but according in what position my source is working, it seems really trustworthy.

Nice try, Iwata.
 

Shiggy

Member
"Profitable" by what standard?

As a 1st party, there's no licensing fees to pay. That adds to profit and isn't there when you're a 3rd party.
As a 1st party, you have a stronger control of the distribution chain that provides greater accessibility to content for consumers and more potential sales. That would be lost as a 3rd party.
As a 1st party, you have a stronger position when it comes to marketing buys, giving you more marketing options to incite higher sales numbers. That's lost as a 3rd party.

Take all these things away and then tell me that Fire Emblem and Rhythm Heaven could be "profitable" in the same way they are now.
The very nature of 3rd-party business nowadays increases risk aversion.

1. That's true. At the same time there are no more losses from hardware sales and fewer research costs.
2. Nintendo already has little control when it comes to the distribution chain when you look at shops discontinuing Nintendo products or shrinking the Nintendo section.
3. Why exactly do you have a stronger marketing position? The Wii U illustrates pretty well that this is not the case. In fact, it's a total disaster when it comes to marketing.

And why would Fire Emblem or Rhythm Heaven not be profitable? Rhythm Heaven looks like the perfect game for iOS/Android. If Nintendo cannot make these titles profitable, they should just shut down. Other third parties can make it work (see SMT or Tales or Persona). Just because their current leaders are inept, it doesn't mean that such a transition would be impossible to achieve.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I dunno where to post these following informations and please take it with an grand of salt, but according to a source of mine:

-Nintendo is working for several years on a new System. Not just a gaming system.

-Nintendo Direct is planed for this upcoming week = Mario kart 8 release date, Super smash bros release date, two new game announcements.

-Pokken is real. Pokemon/Tekken. Release date set for September 2014.

-Two Metroid games in development. One almost finished. Releasing Oktober 2014.

-ZeldaU is releasing Holiday 2014. Much darker and mature - u can feel the spirt of majoras mask in it.

-Japanese third partys are gathering closer around Nintendo. New exclusive deal and ips are going to be revealed.

-we are going to see at least 3 old long anticipated franchises from Nintendo this year

-New miyamoto ip. Only information is that there is no information. Kept very secret.

-eshop and retail games are getting cheaper

-Nintendo is going to drop some huge game changing suprises.

Well like i said, take it with a grand of salt, but according in what position my source is working, it seems really trustworthy.

The Hyrule Warriors rumor is more believable. And that is probably fake too.
 
that whole post reads like a wet dream.

Really? none of it seems that far fetched. Particularly if it also refers to the 3Ds when stating things like "close ties with japanese developers" which the 3DS obviously has.

-Nintendo is working for several years on a new System. Not just a gaming system. R&D are always working on something, and Iwata literally just said they're doubling down on R&D

-Nintendo Direct is planed for this upcoming week = Mario kart 8 release date, Super smash bros release date, two new game announcements. We're about due for one, and post NPD results they probably wnt to do something to calm 'the faithful'

-Pokken is real. Pokemon/Tekken. Release date set for September 2014. Probably true, but is this something anyone really wants or cares about?

-Two Metroid games in development. One almost finished. Releasing Oktober 2014.I could believe this is it was a 3DS and a WiiU title, as Metroid Prime and Fusion were

-ZeldaU is releasing Holiday 2014. Much darker and mature - u can feel the spirt of majoras mask in it. Nintendo have been talking about MM recently, but the timeline seems a little short for a full Zelda dev cycle. Having said that, MM itself was a 'spinoff' with a reduced dev cycle, so MM comparisons might be referring to size and scope rather than tone

-Japanese third partys are gathering closer around Nintendo. New exclusive deal and ips are going to be revealed. For 3DS, absolutely. Its not completely out of the realm of posibility for the WiiU

-we are going to see at least 3 old long anticipated franchises from Nintendo this year Eh, who knows. Some of these being 3DS titles makes it more plausible.

-New miyamoto ip. Only information is that there is no information. Kept very secret.Could be. Wii Music was his last wasn't it?

-eshop and retail games are getting cheaperThere's plenty of scope for price reductions on the eShop; if Nintendo are dead at retail there's even more scope.

-Nintendo is going to drop some huge game changing suprises. The most wishlisty statement, and also the most subjective. They could just as easily drop a Wii Music as they could a Wii Fit or Brain Training.
 
I dunno where to post these following informations and please take it with an grand of salt, but according to a source of mine:

-Nintendo is working for several years on a new System. Not just a gaming system.

-Nintendo Direct is planed for this upcoming week = Mario kart 8 release date, Super smash bros release date, two new game announcements.

-Pokken is real. Pokemon/Tekken. Release date set for September 2014.

-Two Metroid games in development. One almost finished. Releasing Oktober 2014.

-ZeldaU is releasing Holiday 2014. Much darker and mature - u can feel the spirt of majoras mask in it.

-Japanese third partys are gathering closer around Nintendo. New exclusive deal and ips are going to be revealed.

-we are going to see at least 3 old long anticipated franchises from Nintendo this year

-New miyamoto ip. Only information is that there is no information. Kept very secret.

-eshop and retail games are getting cheaper

-Nintendo is going to drop some huge game changing suprises.

Well like i said, take it with a grand of salt, but according in what position my source is working, it seems really trustworthy.
Enjoy your short stay here
 

wsippel

Banned
I guess it safe to say that a wiiU successor is going to happen a lot sooner than we think.

Christmas 2015 or early 2016 perhaps
I think we'll probably see something in 2015, because a little birdie told me that they actually started working on something roughly a year ago (I am willing to put my membership on the line here if a mod wants to see proof, by the way), but if it happens, I don't think it's going to be a successor to the Wii U. Not officially, at least. Kinda like how the DS wasn't officially a successor to the GBA.
 

Xater

Member
Willing to put your GAF membership on the line with your 'source'? PM a mod so they can confirm you're legit or you're playing a risky game.

Whatever, let him play. He's a Junior which would mean a perma ban.

It also is almost just a reiteration of the 4chan bullshit.
 

The_Lump

Banned
Not a good idea to post that sort of unfounded " rumour" as a junior.

It's clearly nonsense. No way in hell is Zelda out this Christmas. I hope not anyway; I don't want some rushed/unfinished Zelda. They can take as much time as they like on that one.
 
I think we'll probably see something in 2015, because a little birdie told me that they actually started working on something roughly a year ago (I am willing to put my membership on the line here if a mod wants to see proof, by the way), but if it happens, I don't think it's going to be a successor to the Wii U. Not officially, at least. Kinda like how the DS wasn't officially a successor to the GBA.
They were planning next gen handheld at least as far back as June 2012

http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2012/06/12/nintendo-working-on-future-handheld-generation
 
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