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petrus91 · Feb 21, 2018

Blam said:
That's beyond over generalizing soo much, that fun house is also just a house to lob nades over the side. All the end matches in Fortnite are resulted in camping in 2 houses opposite of eachother. PUBG is camping as well, but you can't prop up impromptu cover just to save your ass at the last moment.

Absolutely. I remember someone calling brainless people those who play PUBG while totally ignoring how the endgame works. No room for mistakes whatsoever, positioning and playing smart is key. There may be people going around with bikes, they usually don't last long in the last circle.
Both games have their own pros and cons depending on what player you are. Forntnite is easily more fast paced and action packed one. Map is also much smaller for this reason. Different approach, same fun in my opinion.
You don't get so many players to play if game is trash.

ChrisG683 · Feb 21, 2018

I prefer PUBG over Fortnite due to the gameplay formula being superior in nearly every way to me (subjective obviously). Fornite's biggest thing that it has going for it is that it's building off of a base game that isn't a bugg/laggy POS and is incredibly smooth which is very attractive. However gameplay wise I just don't find it fun or satisfying.

I'm hoping for a game that combines the polish of Fortnite and the gameplay of PUBG

Fornite

Better performance
Significantly less buggy
Less tickrate/lag problems
Easier to pick up and learn
Building adds a dynamic element to the game
Free
Cheating isn't as much of a problem
Less looting

PUBG

Better gunplay, more rewarding for skilled shooters
Gameplay is more weighted, and in general more tactical
Attachments system
Bigger, more interesting map, with better urban combat
FPP for no bullshit corner peeking
Has vehicles (even if the physics suck)
Better inventory system (even if it still sucks)

Blam · Feb 21, 2018

BANGS said:
Hence the higher skill ceiling... not sure where the disconnect is here...

Building something isn't a skill lol when the building is beyond simple it's more of a crutch.

Calibos · Feb 21, 2018

BANGS said:
Doesn't take more skill to play, it's just got a higher skill ceiling to master. I mean what's more complex, building a structure that's basically a funhouse meant to fool and trap your enemies, or running people over with a motorcycle?

Still generalizing and over simplifying everything I see.

These two games are extremely different and each have their own skill ceiling. PubG is way more about positional tactics, awareness of enemies and shooting skills whereas Fortnite has these things, but the endgame is more about being able to manage building cover quickly and then controlling the enemy.

I think they are both great. For me, Fortnite is a more complete experience with there being a co-op/single player experience in the package( if you paid). I never feel frustrated when playing it and always have fun. PubG on the other hand is a multi only experience that has the most intense, exhilarating, and frustrating confrontations in any game I have ever played.

BANGS · Feb 21, 2018

Blam said:
Building something isn't a skill lol

I can't tell if you're trying too hard or not at all...

prag16 · Feb 21, 2018

ChrisG683 said:
I prefer PUBG over Fortnite due to the gameplay formula being superior in nearly every way to me (subjective obviously). Fornite's biggest thing that it has going for it is that it's building off of a base game that isn't a bugg/laggy POS and is incredibly smooth which is very attractive. However gameplay wise I just don't find it fun or satisfying.

I'm hoping for a game that combines the polish of Fortnite and the gameplay of PUBG

Fornite

Better performance

Significantly less buggy

Less tickrate/lag problems

Easier to pick up and learn

Building adds a dynamic element to the game

Free

Cheating isn't as much of a problem

Less looting

PUBG

Better gunplay, more rewarding for skilled shooters

Gameplay is more weighted, and in general more tactical

Attachments system

Bigger, more interesting map, with better urban combat

FPP for no bullshit corner peeking

Has vehicles (even if the physics suck)

Better inventory system (even if it still sucks)

Perfect rundown imo. I also vastly prefer PUBG, even if Fortnite BR can be a fun diversion. RE the inventory system, imo it's fine once you get used to it.

MiguelItUp · Feb 21, 2018

I find it fascinating that there's (generally) this line between PUBG and Fortnite for a lot of players. I don't really know anyone that actively plays both, it's one or the other. Personally, I'm not too fond of either. I wasn't a huge fan of the Day Z craze years ago because I thought it (the ARMA engine) was a clunky mess. PUBG took that same experience, removed zombies, and improved/refined the overall experience. It isn't buttery smooth or anything, but certainly not as clunky. The gameplay to me doesn't feel much different than how Day Z felt, albeit a few obvious things (vehicles, zones, skydiving, lack of eating/drinking, etc). It still reminds me too much of Day Z and I think that's my largest qualm with it. I've played with co-workers periodically and still will if they want me to hop on, but that's the only time I find it moderately entertaining. Which, in the long run, I think is the ignorant voice chat banter that entertains me more than the gameplay itself.

Fortnite to me at least feels a little bit different, which I think in itself is pretty hysterical since when Battle Royale was announced I felt like it was just trying to get a slice of the "survivor game" pie. But after watching it the first time I felt that, while certainly having similarities, it also did things just different enough to stand out a bit further. Gameplay-wise I feel a bit warmer to Fortnite as it feels more like an arena shooter to me, at least the gunplay does. Plus the inventory system doesn't just look and feel like Day Z/PUBG's, so it's a slight breath of fresh air. While not being TOO fresh since the similarities still remain (skydiving, zones, bandaging). That

TL;DR These survivor/last man standing/battle royal games are really popular and while I respect people's opinions, I suppose they're just not for me. Which is kind of hard for me to accept since I've always been a huge shooter/FPS fan.

pj · Feb 21, 2018

ChrisG683 said:
I prefer PUBG over Fortnite due to the gameplay formula being superior in nearly every way to me (subjective obviously). Fornite's biggest thing that it has going for it is that it's building off of a base game that isn't a bugg/laggy POS and is incredibly smooth which is very attractive. However gameplay wise I just don't find it fun or satisfying.

I'm hoping for a game that combines the polish of Fortnite and the gameplay of PUBG

Fornite

Better performance

Significantly less buggy

Less tickrate/lag problems

Easier to pick up and learn

Building adds a dynamic element to the game

Free

Cheating isn't as much of a problem

Less looting

PUBG

Better gunplay, more rewarding for skilled shooters

Gameplay is more weighted, and in general more tactical

Attachments system

Bigger, more interesting map, with better urban combat

FPP for no bullshit corner peeking

Has vehicles (even if the physics suck)

Better inventory system (even if it still sucks)

Since about a month ago PUBG's tickrate has improved greatly. It's now a constant 30hz after the first few minutes of the game, compared to 18-20hz for fortnite. They have another change (no longer rendering players in the plane) in the test server now that should hopefully improve early game performance.

Blam · Feb 21, 2018

BANGS said:
I can't tell if you're trying too hard or not at all...

In a game with an overly simplified system in place no it's not a skill, all the gameplay I've seen and played of Fortnite consists of people spam building shit to survive.

pj · Feb 21, 2018

Blam said:
In a game with an overly simplified system in place no it's not a skill, all the gameplay I've seen and played of Fortnite consists of people spam building shit to survive.

You're being willfully ignorant if you think there's no skill in building in fortnite. Yes, you can panic spam walls when you get shot and don't know where it's coming from, but after that you need a plan for how to stay covered and find your enemy and then continue building so you can effectively engage them or retreat.

Personally, I don't find any of that to be fun so I don't play the game, but to say it takes no skill is totally ridiculous.

CloudStrife_ca · Feb 21, 2018

Actually I've started playing this with a couple guys from work and I also have PubG on Xbox One, I've definitely put more time into Fortnite as its, in my opinion more accessible for pickup and play with a few friends. I'm still pretty early on in but it'll be interesting as BR style of play is picking up steam, already rumored to be a part of Red Dead Redemption 2's online multiplayer. It makes me wonder how long before Call of Duty and Battlefield adapt this in as a "new mode" with the success of PubG and Fortnite. http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...veals-battle-royale-first-person-more-3388634

Blam · Feb 21, 2018

pj said:
You're being willfully ignorant if you think there's no skill in building in fortnite. Yes, you can panic spam walls when you get shot and don't know where it's coming from, but after that you need a plan for how to stay covered and find your enemy and then continue building so you can effectively engage them or retreat.

Personally, I don't find any of that to be fun so I don't play the game, but to say it takes no skill is totally ridiculous.

BANGS makes it seem like that pushes the skill ceiling through the roof when compared to PUBG. It does not, it's not a difficult part of the game to pick up, and I don't see why it's being made out to be harder then the actual survival part of the game.

BANGS · Feb 21, 2018

Blam said:
BANGS makes it seem like that pushes the skill ceiling through the roof when compared to PUBG.

More like you're just being extra defensive towards PUBG...

I said the skill ceiling is higher simply because there's a whole new mechanic to master as well as how to react to it. I don't see how or why you are even arguing against that...

WaterAstro · Feb 21, 2018

I found this amazing. Fortnite definitely doesn't take itself seriously. It's all about quick fun.

As for the argument, Fortnite has building and PUBG has vehicles. They are just tools for mobility. The difference is that PUBG vehicles are shitty and unrealistic when you flip all over the place.

If EA takes Battlefield to battle royale, and they will because EA is always about copying the money makers like some non-creative shit company, they're going to take over the realistic shooter part of BR while Fortnite sticks with the casual side. PUBG won't beat DICE when it comes to this kind of a shooter. Battlefield already has had all the gameplay and mechanics needed for a BR for decades.

petrus91 · Feb 21, 2018

BANGS said:
More like you're just being extra defensive towards PUBG...

I said the skill ceiling is higher simply because there's a whole new mechanic to master as well as how to react to it. I don't see how or why you are even arguing against that...

Because you aren't taking to account the gameplay simplifications that Fortnite drives to the formula. No prone, ADS, peaking mechanics, movement inertia...all these feature are so much more complex than what Fortnite offers. The thing is that you think that PUBG is easier because it has no building...I mean, it's not. It has many more mechanics that need to be mastered as well.
In the end, skills needed for Fortnite are simply different to those needed to PUBG. No need to always compare things when you're substantially comparing apples to oranges.

pwnzernator · Feb 21, 2018

I’m 34 years old. My gaming now consists of 30 minute sessions here and there when I find time between work and being with my son. I discovered Fortnite on Friday and since then my university buds and I spent 2 6-hour non stop sessions at night playing until 2-3am and have got together online to play squads every day since. We haven’t done this since our university days. Fortnite is a game changer and one of the most exciting and fun gaming experiences of my life.

Tumle · Feb 21, 2018

Love fortnite !
The live weekly updates, makes it fresh and always gives you something new to play with

Have PUBG too.. I think it’s an ok experience.. but I’m actually kind of burned out on the gritty realism simulators every shooter tries to be

SirKicksalot · Feb 21, 2018

MiguelItUp said:
I find it fascinating that there's (generally) this line between PUBG and Fortnite for a lot of players. I don't really know anyone that actively plays both, it's one or the other.

I play Fortnite if I don't have the time or patience for PBUG. I like PBUG's slow pace and exploration, it reminds of Stalker, but Fortnite is alright for a quick Battle Royale fix.
Sometimes I find the pace annoying. The map is too small, or there are too many players. I rarely die early in PUBG but Fortnite sometimes kills me too fast.
Building things is fun, stopping to break down objects is not. I wish the hammer and scrap worked like in Red Faction: Guerilla.

BANGS · Feb 21, 2018

petrus91 said:
you think that PUBG is easier

Never said anything like that... although that is what I think based on my win record in both games...

I just said Fortnight has a higher skill ceiling. There's much more to learn to be top tier IMO. PUBG is much more strait forward and plays like any other game. Honestly the only unique challenge comes from dealing with the performance issues...

Blam · Feb 21, 2018

BANGS said:
More like you're just being extra defensive towards PUBG...

I said the skill ceiling is higher simply because there's a whole new mechanic to master as well as how to react to it. I don't see how or why you are even arguing against that...

petrus91 said:
Because you aren't taking to account the gameplay simplifications that Fortnite drives to the formula. No prone, ADS, peaking mechanics, movement inertia...all these feature are so much more complex than what Fortnite offers. The thing is that you think that PUBG is easier because it has no building...I mean, it's not. It has many more mechanics that need to be mastered as well.
In the end, skills needed for Fortnite are simply different to those needed to PUBG. No need to always compare things when you're substantially comparing apples to oranges.

Yes PUBG is a much more in detail game then the simple mechanics that Fortnite offers, even down to camera movements like petrus said. Can't even freelook while running which drops what you're able to do.

The games are just build one as a cartoon, the other one as a milsim. Ones going to fundamentally be a harder game, and news flash it's not Fortnite. Fortnite has stuff to master sure, but on the same level, and farther then PUBG? Not a chance.

BANGS · Feb 21, 2018

Blam said:
Yes PUBG is a much more in detail game then the simple mechanics that Fortnite offers, even down to camera movements like petrus said. Can't even freelook while running which drops what you're able to do.

The games are just build one as a cartoon, the other one as a milsim. Ones going to fundamentally be a harder game, and news flash it's not Fortnite. Fortnite has stuff to master sure, but on the same level, and farther then PUBG? Not a chance.

BANGS said:
I can't tell if you're trying too hard or not at all...

BANGS said:
More like you're just being extra defensive towards PUBG...

Tumle · Feb 21, 2018

Blam said:
Yes PUBG is a much more in detail game then the simple mechanics that Fortnite offers, even down to camera movements like petrus said. Can't even freelook while running which drops what you're able to do.

The games are just build one as a cartoon, the other one as a milsim. Ones going to fundamentally be a harder game, and news flash it's not Fortnite. Fortnite has stuff to master sure, but on the same level, and farther then PUBG? Not a chance.

Fortnite is more like a twitch shooter and the close up combat can be more hectic than what ever PUBG can dish out..
But they are inherently two different kind of shooters build on the same framework, with different skill sets to master.. none of them are more “hardcore” than the other..
But keep up the pissing contest both of you..

WaterAstro · Feb 21, 2018

It's like trying to compare Quake to Rainbow Six. They're just different kinds of shooters. Neither "requires more skill" than the other because they require different skill sets.

Radical Socks · Feb 21, 2018

Fortnite is a lot of fun to grab a fews of your mates and see how long you can last. Don't forget to listen to the shimmering audio cue for those hidden treasure chests!

aajohnny · Feb 21, 2018

People who say building in Fortnite is not complex and PUBG has a higher skill ceiling has never played against anybody good. You won't win if you don't build... unless the people you play against either A) Don't build either or B) Suck...

Having almost 800 Hours in PUBG I wouldn't say it has a higher skill ceiling, I think that if anything Fortnite does for needing to be able to outshoot and outbuild opposites. PUBG you can have a completely crappy day and still win.. Fortnite I feel you have to be on the top of your game every game... My opinion though.

The Bloody-Nine · Feb 21, 2018

I quite like Fortnite but since I can't (and refuse to learn how to) build, I will never win a match. Top 10 is easily achievable, though. I have yet to play PUBG but will be trying it out when my new rig arrives. Quite looking forward to it as, to my knowledge, there aren't any 'out of the ordinary' game mechanics. Theoretically, I should be able to win a game.

The one thing about Fortnite that does kind of irk me (and this is probably a battle royale thing, rather than a Fortnite specific thing), is that it can feel like quite a shallow experience at times. You know, you spend 15 minutes creeping around, gathering weapons, potions, etc, only to be melted when you encounter someone for the first time. Boom, back to the lobby. It kind of kills my motivation to have another attempt.

Perhaps the BR game mode isn't for me. We'll see, anyway.

FireEmoji · Feb 21, 2018

I really enjoy both games; however I'm not a huge fan of the building aspect of Fortnite... but the last time I played PUBG the game was full of cheaters/hackers.

Currently on a break from both games but will probably randomly dedicate a night or 2 to either; they are both quite easy to just pick up and enjoy.

petrus91 · Feb 21, 2018

aajohnny said:
People who say building in Fortnite is not complex and PUBG has a higher skill ceiling has never played against anybody good. You won't win if you don't build... unless the people you play against either A) Don't build either or B) Suck...

Having almost 800 Hours in PUBG I wouldn't say it has a higher skill ceiling, I think that if anything Fortnite does for needing to be able to outshoot and outbuild opposites. PUBG you can have a completely crappy day and still win.. Fortnite I feel you have to be on the top of your game every game... My opinion though.

Both games have complex mechanics, this is what I'm trying to say.
One side you have the building, cool material farming and so on. On the other side you have a much more "complete" set of movements, ballistics and so on. Both games are equally difficult when it comes to core play. No one is easier than the other. It's like comparing Call of Duty to Battlefield. Both have their core experience which is totally different. On a high skill level, both are gonna be though for anyone. Perharps one can say one has a more "realistic" feeling but when it comes to difficulty, they are totally even. Both have their pros and their cons.

Blam · Feb 21, 2018

Tumle said:
Fortnite is more like a twitch shooter and the close up combat can be more hectic than what ever PUBG can dish out..
But they are inherently two different kind of shooters build on the same framework, with different skill sets to master.. none of them are more “hardcore” than the other..
But keep up the pissing contest both of you..

Well yeah that's what I said ones more milsim, the other is arcadey. I mean hey he's the one who posed that building raises Fortnites skill ceiling when it doesn't at all.

aajohnny · Feb 21, 2018

petrus91 said:
Both games have complex mechanics, this is what I'm trying to say.
One side you have the building, cool material farming and so on. On the other side you have a much more "complete" set of movements, ballistics and so on. Both games are equally difficult when it comes to core play. No one is easier than the other. It's like comparing Call of Duty to Battlefield. Both have their core experience which is totally different. On a high skill level, both are gonna be though for anyone. Perharps one can say one has a more "realistic" feeling but when it comes to difficulty, they are totally even. Both have their pros and their cons.

Yup, neither game is perfect. If you're in the mood for more tactical, slow-paced matches PUBG is best at that, if you want fast games, fast-paced action Fortnite is best at that. Both are good at what they do, just in different ways.

Tumle · Feb 21, 2018

Blam said:
Well yeah that's what I said ones more milsim, the other is arcadey. I mean hey he's the one who posed that building raises Fortnites skill ceiling when it doesn't at all.

Yea I know your post was just the last one in the chain about the subject.. sorry if I singled you out

Mooreberg · Feb 21, 2018

Wasn't too impressed with it, but the Epic Launcher seems to have particular disdain for a recent Windows 10 update on my computer. PUBG actually finally feels like something resembling a finished product without rampant disconnection errors, so I have just been playing that after not touching it for two months.

I wish H1Z1 did more events like Swagnum Opus, it is a lot faster paced and there is a lot more movement, and a lot of precision is required on one hit kill guns and crossbows. But in between events it is pretty average. Hopefully PUBG starts doing modes like that eventually.

Droxcy · Feb 21, 2018

The two have very different game speeds. Fornite quick action, have to be on your toes constantly. Building while fighting and covering the area around you.

PUBG long drawn out games, more rewarding kills, shit performance, but killing is killing, it feels good in both games to me. You have a lot more stressful moments.

I just like how quick Fortnite matches are.

MayauMiao · Feb 22, 2018

I wish there was a tutorial level. I tried Fortnite few days ago and couldn't last long enough to learn the mechanics of the game.

DonJimbo · Feb 22, 2018

Rules of Survival on mobile

Mau5 · Feb 22, 2018

Tumle said:
Love fortnite !
The live weekly updates, makes it fresh and always gives you something new to play with
Have PUBG too.. I think it’s an ok experience.. but I’m actually kind of burned out on the gritty realism simulators every shooter tries to be

PUBG is still a great FPP shooting experience for me third person is trash can't stand it. Despite it's many issues I still find it fun and intense.

But after grinding PUBG for so long Fortnite is just too fun. And it's exciting to learn for some reason. The building is still really difficult to grasp I am constantly choking against good players. After watching Ninja and Myth I can definitely appreciate the building in this game.

MayauMiao · Feb 22, 2018

asqarkababi said:
Rules of Survival on mobile

The PC version ain't bad too.

Velcoro · Feb 22, 2018

the new impulse nades are pretty sick too bad I could never do something like that

WaterAstro · Feb 22, 2018

Velcoro said:
the new impulse nades are pretty sick too bad I could never do something like that

Man, shotguns are just so powerful at close range.

It's pretty easy to learn building if you have your hotkeys down. Stop using the default keybinds and bind the building type to q, z, and stuff. It'll really speed up building. Most people who played at least ten games knows how to build cover towers with a stair ramp and 3 walls.

BANGS · Feb 22, 2018

Blam said:
I mean hey he's the one who posed that building raises Fortnites skill ceiling when it doesn't at all.

Well I mean the evidence is all over this topic... do you really think I'm special for having this opinion?

aajohnny said:
People who say building in Fortnite is not complex and PUBG has a higher skill ceiling has never played against anybody good. You won't win if you don't build... unless the people you play against either A) Don't build either or B) Suck...

Having almost 800 Hours in PUBG I wouldn't say it has a higher skill ceiling, I think that if anything Fortnite does for needing to be able to outshoot and outbuild opposites. PUBG you can have a completely crappy day and still win.. Fortnite I feel you have to be on the top of your game every game... My opinion though.

The Bloody-Nine said:
I quite like Fortnite but since I can't (and refuse to learn how to) build, I will never win a match.

MayauMiao said:
I wish there was a tutorial level. I tried Fortnite few days ago and couldn't last long enough to learn the mechanics of the game.

Mau5 said:
The building is still really difficult to grasp I am constantly choking against good players.

petrus91 · Feb 22, 2018

BANGS said:
Well I mean the evidence is all over this topic... do you really think I'm special for having this opinion?

Again, I'm willing to disagree since I already explained how and why both games require a good amount of skill to successfully master their core mechanics.
You seem to not want to listen because you're convinced that building is the only key factor that differentiate the two games. It's not.
I actually don't want to repeat the same thing again so it's okay. Think about movement, gunplay, cover system, shielding system. These aspect all serve the kind of gameplay you want to impose in your game.
You don't have buildings in PUBG, you don't have four ways of shooting in Fortnite.
Do you like more Fortnite style? Good, there's lot of people that thinks the same, it's tastes. I like Fortnite A LOT for its fast paced gameplay. Play every night or so.

BANGS · Feb 22, 2018

petrus91 said:
Again, I'm willing to disagree since I already explained how and why both games require a good amount of skill to successfully master their core mechanics.
You seem to not want to listen because you're convinced that building is the only key factor that differentiate the two games. It's not.

You're arguing with someone else dude. I never said PUBG didn't require skills, I never said building was the only key factor...

But it's obviously a huge factor, much bigger than any other, as evidenced by the people ITT I quoted above. You find plenty of posts about the toughness of gittin' gud at building but you rarely if ever see posts about having trouble learning the shooting mechanics in PUBG. We've already learned those mechanics in countless other games that came before it and did them better, we haven't seen too many games with building mechanics like Fortnite. Therefor, much more to learn, much higher skill ceiling, etc...

You're basically arguing that super meat boy doesn't have a higher skill ceiling than super mario bros 3 because "they're different!" Sorry but that doesn't add up man....

Bogroll · Feb 22, 2018

60fps on console update out now.

pj · Feb 22, 2018

BANGS said:
You're arguing with someone else dude. I never said PUBG didn't require skills, I never said building was the only key factor...

But it's obviously a huge factor, much bigger than any other, as evidenced by the people ITT I quoted above. You find plenty of posts about the toughness of gittin' gud at building but you rarely if ever see posts about having trouble learning the shooting mechanics in PUBG. We've already learned those mechanics in countless other games that came before it and did them better, we haven't seen too many games with building mechanics like Fortnite. Therefor, much more to learn, much higher skill ceiling, etc...

You're basically arguing that super meat boy doesn't have a higher skill ceiling than super mario bros 3 because "they're different!" Sorry but that doesn't add up man....

Mechanics existing in other games doesn't make them any less skill based, and new mechanics that you have to learn don't necessarily take "more skill" once you've learned them.

The gameplay of the two games is too different to definitively say which has a higher "skill ceiling", which is sort of irrelevant anyway since most players will never approach it in either game.

GermanZepp · Feb 22, 2018

Bogroll said:
60fps on console update out now.

YEAHHH BABY!!!

waiting for some season 3 sweetness. I´m learnig how to play with keyboard and mouse un PS4.

BANGS · Feb 22, 2018

pj said:
The gameplay of the two games is too different to definitively say which has a higher "skill ceiling"

Agree to disagree then, no biggy...

petrus91 · Feb 22, 2018

Bogroll said:
60fps on console update out now.

Feels so good.

Tumle · Feb 23, 2018

Been playing all day today..
The lag when switching between guns and build pieces seems to be gone too! That is so nice

Blam · Feb 23, 2018

BANGS said:
We've already learned those mechanics in countless other games that came before it and did them better, we haven't seen too many games with building mechanics like Fortnite. Therefor, much more to learn, much higher skill ceiling, etc...

Yes and those games had much harder building systems to master. Rust on a good example sure it's not BR but the building mechanics are there.

Also you're once again touting around saying the building mechanics add to a much higher skill ceiling. The building in Fortnite is not hard to use at all. There's not much at all to learn about the building mechanics to Fortnite. Just learn how to make a box quick and that's about it. The building mechanic almost I'd say drops the skill ceiling if anything. Since it's so simple to use, it's really just enforces people to camp till the circle moves, and doesn't promote anything more.

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